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Life membership

You have written the honorary life membership has been awarded to only six people. I have come across administrators like M. Chinnaswamy and S. Sriraman who MCC apparently made members. What kind of membership was that ? Tintin Talk 19:39, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi sorry, I thought when I typed it that they were the only 6 living honorary life members, but had forgotten that Andy Flower got given one as well, and I think Nasser Hussain and Alec Stewart did last year as well. I'll tidy that bit up.--Wisden17 19:46, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Hello. Great to see another cricket fan on Wikipedia. Just a brief note to say that Wikipedia requires new edits to be supported by references, so when adding information, please let us know what source you're getting the info from. This should reduce the sort of mistakes here, plus will give the reader greater confidence that what is written is reliable. See Wikipedia:Verifiability/temp for a good summary of our policy. Happy editing, jguk 22:56, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: Hi

Hello - an empty talk page is usually a good sign - it means you haven't been doing many bad things (people on WP usually come to your talk page to complain ;)). Anyway, what I know of English cricket usually comes from websites such as Cricinfo, talking with people in the know (I'm a member of the forum on cricketweb.net, plus one very dog-eared copy of Wisden from 2004 (btw, does your username refer to how many Wisden's you've got? Impressive collection in that case ;)). I've only watched three matches of cricket in my life, so my knowledge on the technical side of the game is rather thin. Welcome to the project, anyway - can I just take this opportunity to link you to Wikipedia:Verifiability - it may seem like a terrible pain to verify knowledge that you know is true, but citing sources really helps our integrity, so your contributions would get a bit more credit. Sam Vimes 21:53, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I'd love to watch an international, so if you're still around here or anywhere else in 2007 I'll talk to you about it - it would be great :) England's playing West Indies and India that summer, I'd really enjoy watching that.

One question about Wiki: do people generally e-mail other people or just use their talk pages. I mean I generally prefer using e-mail, but I don't mind?

Talk pages generally - the "you have new messages" tends to reach out quicker. If there's something private, you can use email.

Oh thanks for the link to the verification site. I was doing some editing on the Umpires' Page and had to keep resisting the urge to just put Law references every 5 minutes, as I am not of the opinion thatthat is what that page needs.

I agree that the umpires page doesn't need Law references on every corner, but if you've used a website or a book, by all means list it - preferably at the bottom of the page in a section called references (the umpire page actually doesn't have any references, which is bad). Sam Vimes 22:17, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Welcome!

Hello Oliver,

Welcome to Wikipedia, and to WikiProject Cricket! We look forward to working with you in the future.

Stephen Turner (Talk) 22:00, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, and hello from me too. It's great to see you here. I'm afraid my attempts on those exams rather fell away (read: I couldn't be bothered to put the work in and preferred to go to Test matches instead). Anyway, nice to see you here, and I hope you write more than I have ever done... Cheers, Sam Korn ^(smoddy) 18:18, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to Esperanza!

Welcome, Wisden17/Archive 1, to Esperanza, the Wikipedia member association! As you might know, all the Esperanzians share one important goal: the success of this encyclopedia. Within that, we then attempt to strengthen the community bonds, and be the "approachable" side of the project. All of our ideals are held in the Charter, the governing document of the association.

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Cheers! Sango123 (e) 02:54, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, Wisden. Have you tried this signature? :)

Wisden17

The first part links to your userpage, the e to Wikipedia:Esperanza, and the last part to your talk page (which becomes bolded text here).

This is the code, if you'd like to use it: [[User:Wisden17|Wisd]][[WP:EA|<font color="green">'''e'''</font>]][[User talk:Wisden17|n17]]

Regards, Sango123 (e) 03:17, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Or make a page in your userspace called /Esperanza and link to that. In any case, I welcome you as well! - File:Ottawa flag.png nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 03:56, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

• Hi Wisden, pardon me but I'm reading this as the way of writing to you - if it's not, then blame my lousy tech skills - I'm mystified - I edited piece on GNR by adding what many fans think, then another piece on Mr PK Dick, Vesica Piscis - and got a scary warning. What'd I do? :-(
• Yeah, hi. I edited List of songs with particularly long titles, and you gave me a warning to block me for that. Why? You didn't give any reason, other than saying I was vandalising. Only thing I can think of is you reacted to me deleting an entry from the list (because it was a duplicate). 213.114.200.59 01:01, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Gay rights in Bosnia and Herzegovina

Would you please explain why you reverted 85.92.225.49 's edits to Gay rights in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Please respond at: Talk:Gay rights in Bosnia and Herzegovina Thank you. Wuzzy 00:55, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Vandal

Hi, just reminding you to place {{test}}, {{test2}} and {{test3}} before placing {{test4}} on the talk page of a vandal. ie, do not jump to "test4", even if the person was previously warned. Others might use the computer, and would probobly stop if asked. Keep up the good work however. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 19:58, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Reply from comments on my talk page

That really was a good question for the cricket quiz, but I'm a big Monty Python Fan, so I'd have kicked myself if I hadn't got it. What I'm interested in, is that I see by your user page that you live in New York, is what exposure have you had to cricket. I mean I'm in the UK, and will be involved in the cricket season, which starts very soon: do you play at all in America, and what sort of TV coverage (if any) do you get? I should, all things being well, be a member of the MCC for the start of the 2007 season, so if you ever want to get the chance to watch a Test Match from the Lord's Pavillion give me a shout. Also interested to see your in maths. I'm currently in my last year of school in the UK, doing, amongst other things, Maths and Further Maths A-Levels (equivalent to APs, sort of). What field of maths are you in, and what exactly does someone who works 'in maths' do? (I want to go into law, so all my maths will probably be pretty worthless, can't really ever see myself needing to do calculus with complex numbers, or use De Moivre's Theory, or see whether I have a pair of isomorphic groups etc., but hey it's pretty interesting none the less). Now I've got to try and think up a good question for the cricket quiz, something not stats related, not quite sure what yet. But I'll think of something. --Wisden17 21:22, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for the long time for response, but I've finally gotten around to it.. :P Also, lot of questions, I'll come to them one at a time... There's so much to say I'll probably use an outline...

1. First, about cricket and the States. I do live in NYC, and I am an American. So your first question might be why I am interested in cricket at all, and what exposure I might have to it.
   1. First of all, cricket is sort of catching on in parts of this country, esp. NYC and other parts of the east coast. This is probably due to all of the immigrants from Commonwealth nations; as you can imagine, NYC has huge South Asian and West Indian communities, probably about half a million of each. So there is some TV coverage, although nothing like you'd get elsewhere.
   2. Second, my personal connection to it is twofold: first, as you can see from my talk page, I am a mathematician, and second, my wife is from the West Indies (Trinidad, in fact). I think the second point makes it more obvious, but in fact I was interested quite a bit in cricket even before I met my wife, because many of my colleagues (again, as you might imagine) are from South Asia. Actually, my last job was at a Technical Institute, and frankly, the Indian population there was so high in the faculty and grad students that one would hear Hindi in the halls as often as English, and Tamil or other Southern languages not that unfrequently. So one hears a lot of talk of cricket in that environment. Being as I am a huge baseball fan, and was a decent baseball player when younger, the transition to cricket came quite naturally.
   3. Thanks for the invitation as well! I don't know when I'll find myself in London next, though. I would like to see matches there. I've been at Tests, but only in the Caribbean. Although, I can say, I saw Brian Lara bat in Trinidad in the same series where he got that 400*. Unfortunately, the day I saw him bat, he was out after four balls, and you can guess his score.
2. The math: Yeah, I do math for a living, I think in England you'd call me a "maths prof". My main research is probably best described as something like "applied probability theory", lately I've been doing work on some biological applications; the university where I teach has a large group of really good scientists working on math problems coming from biology, so I talk to these guys and try to attack the problems from the more "mathy" side. It's a lot of fun, but you have to love math. I am sure if you go into law you'll make more money....;-)
3. The quiz: Yeah, I find it's way harder to come up with a good question than a good answer over there. I had a few good questions early on, but I think I've exhausted all my ideas. The actual problem there is that Cricinfo is too good. I have asked some questions which I didn't even know what the answer was, and of course 30 seconds later someone had found a Cricinfo page answering my question exaclty. So one has to generate really off the wall stuff to make it non-trivial. --Deville (Talk) 16:30, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1

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icon comment

i think you meant to place your comment here over here instead (the browsebar doesnt have icons (thank god!)). --Quiddity 21:15, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Cricket quiz

Thanks for the pointer. Duly rectified. Sam Korn ^(smoddy) 17:33, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

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Block

Hi Wisden, can you explain briefly how you came to get caught up in the block? Free free to e-mail me if explaining that involves giving personal details. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 23:35, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

And if blocked, how you're able to post? And if able to post, why you want that IP to be unblocked? SlimVirgin ^(talk) 23:36, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

About Q157

I am not really sure about the answer to the question (regarding the number of runs.) YES, when a batsman, shoulders arms, he does not get any leg byes. But if the ball cannons off the pad onto his bat, it is still considered legitimate as far as I know! A batsman can be OUT caught if the ball cannons off his pads onto his glove/bat. And accordingly, a ball stays ALIVE (against being DEAD) whichever way it hits the bat/glove, hence the batsman would surely get how many ever runs scored (7, I think...) credited to his name! Nabhen 06:28, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I am (was) completely sure that ALoan's answer is correct. However, I was not convinced by what ALoan said about the ball becoming "dead" when no shot is offered and it hits the batsman's body. So I thought I must clarify it with the enlightened ones ;). Thanks again for the response. Nabhen 20:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Romanization of Russian mediation

I prefer Wikipedia messages as well, but would agree to email if necessary. I do not have access to IRC most of the time. Thank you for taking this case, Wisd.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) 13:29, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

AIV

This IP is assigned to BellSouth, which means it could well be a dynamic IP, meaning not everybody who vandalizes from this IP is the same person. Someone who vandalized yesterday with this IP may not be the person vandalizing today; likewise, the person who saw a block warning yesterday may not know to look at the talk page to see it today, and that's why it's necessary to warn on the same day. · Katefan0^(scribble)/poll 19:14, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

re AWB

Hi, try it now, your name wasnt added properly. thanks Martin 21:18, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Your use of AWB

Could you please explain to me exactly what cleanup you did, or what typos you fixed, as you claimed to be doing in this edit of speed of light?

If you are just messing around with invisible spaces, please cease and desist. Gene Nygaard 03:23, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Admin coaching

Hi! Thanks for signing up for Esperanza admin coaching, and thank you even more for your patience. I have assigned Jaxl and Drini as your coaches. Please contact them so that you can set up a program for your coaching. Thanks again, and let me know if you have any questions. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 05:40, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Apology

I went to bed immediately after my comment noting Phil's deletion, I'm in the UK and it was late, nearly midnight. Steve block talk 09:20, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

• What you probably want to do then is start a discussion at the Village pump. If that takes off, then you might want to create a subpage of WP:CENT to move the discussion on to. Hope that helps. Steve block talk 12:33, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Oh, god, I'm so sorry, I thought you knew it had been reinstated in a preserved condition at, um... User:Cyde/Lolicon RFC. The talk page, User talk:Cyde/Lolicon RFC, is still active though. Steve block talk 14:06, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Templates

Thanks for the tip, I'll change. Kaisershatner 16:23, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

hello there!

Great, we'll be working together. However I may be away for the following week (going to travel) so I will not be around much, but if you got any question, you can drop me a note or send me email via wikipedia and I'll respond as soon as I can. Meanwhile, just to get things started, tell me, how do you feel aboout wikipedia, what are the things you like about it, what things you don't, what do you expect of the coaching, etc. ;) -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 17:58, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello from me too! If you have any questions regarding anything, don't hesitate to leave me a message, send me an email, or contact me on MSN. I glanced quickly through your contribs, and I see you're very involved in the project. I'm sure that that once you get a good amount of edits, your RfA would have a good chance of passing. If you have any questions about what users might look for in a sysop candidate, please let me know. Robert 21:44, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I've added the coaching subpage to my watchlist, so I'll know if you have any questions over there. Robert 04:00, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

==Welcome to VandalProof== Thanks for your interest in VandalProof! You've been added to the list of authorized users, and feel free to contact me or post a message on VandalProof's talk page if you have any questions. AmiDaniel (Talk) 18:31, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

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ARV

Hi there, thanks for your interest in ARV! Instructions are located here. Any questions, leave them on my talk page. Cheers! --lightdarkness ^(talk) 23:18, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza elections statement

Hi, it wasn't clearly listed on the election page yet, but please only leave your name on the list with candidates. It's understandable that you would like to say more about your candidacy, you can do so on Wikipedia:Esperanza/Advisory Council Elections April 2006/Wisden17 and then leave a link saying (statement) after your name. I've clarified the election pages and I've taken the liberty of creating a 'statement' page for you, feel free to adapt it to your liking! Thanks! --JoanneB 06:00, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Version 1.0 "Release Version Qualifying"

Hi, I'm interested in your feedback on Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Release Version Qualifying. It's essentially an idea to use a process similar to WP:FAC to identify and handle articles and lists that would go in a release version. Maurreen 19:51, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

WP 1.0

I thought since you are interested in this project you might be interested to see a CD version of en now exists see Wikipedia:Wikipedia-CD/Download & 2006 WP CD Selection. This is being discussed on the 1.0 project pages but progress breeds enthusiasm so I thought I would let you know. --BozMo talk 09:15, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

thanks for the message. I think this move was long overdue! --BozMo talk 09:22, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

A Download Is Now Available

I just wanted to let you know that a download of VandalProof has recently been made available. AmiDaniel (Talk) 09:52, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

ContiE has impersonated me on other wikis

Hi, I'm in a potentially awkward position with an Administrator. I have read the Wiki pages on dispute resolution but I'm still not sure how to proceed.

The Admin ContiE has a personal grudge against me for reasons I do not fully understand. He has been this way since I began frequenting wikipedia.

I have done work improving the furvert article. He has basically gone on a crusade against any edit I make. He controls every furry category article and several others ruthlessly. He is an iron fist and bans anyone he edit wars with. I had uploaded pictures and he deleted them with no talking. He seems to believe I am every person he has had an edit war against. He is always using personal attacks, calling me troll without reason. I uploaded them again and he voted them for deleted, but to his surprise the person who runs the images, thank you Nv8200p, found they were acceptable once I tagged them properly. Just recently he removed both the images without himself discussing it in the talk page (unless he was the same person who discussed only one) with the edit here [1] Then ContiE assumed bad faith, added his constant insult of troll in the talk page. It appears on a completed different wiki, a comedy one in all things, somebody else stole my username and I believe this was Conti himself and uploaded them. ContiE showed it as his reason. While vandalism like his, I would revert and mention it, he would ban me permanently if I undid his edit. That is why I am asking admins for help. He holds a couple of accounts on wikipedia and I think they are administrators so I have to be careful who I tell about this. Arights 07:27, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof Moderators

Thank you for your willingness in helping me out with VandalProof! You've now been made a moderator, so when you load VandalProof the next time, you should see 'Moderator' in front of your username, and you should also find the Moderate List item under the User Tools menu. I've made a very basic page explaining what's expected of moderators and how to do certain tasks, which can be found here: User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof/ModeratorTools. If you change your mind and don't want to moderate, please contact me. Again, thanks! AmiDaniel (Talk) 23:42, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer

Thanks for offering to help me. I never knew there was code to do that sort of stuff. It seems like I'm learning something new about this website every day. I'm sorta new. But about the offer: I'd love to learn more about wikipedia tools. And I am having trouble with the traffic light thing so if you could help that'd be awesome. Thanks! Wikipeedio 00:04, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I tried copying your monobook.js contents onto my monobook.js and when I previewed it, everything looked messed up. Do you know what went wrong? Thanks, Wikipeedio 16:04, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Community Justice

This is a notification reminding you all, especially councillors, that we are having a meeting where we will try to review progress so far and make a few decisions.

This meeting will be held on a wikipage, and well end on Saturday 15th April.

You can partake in the meeting here.

Thank you,

Computerjoe's talk 17:20, 11 April 2006 (UTC) (Chairman of WP:CJ.)

Message delivered through AWB.

Attention Moderators!

Due to technical problems, I've removed all moderators other than myself. This bugs will be fixed in the next release, likely on Saturday, and I will then add you back as moderators. AmiDaniel (Talk) 22:46, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Lord Chancellors

Official usage is not consistent: see, for instance, the "List of Lord Chancellors" provided by Parliament. I do not believe that Hansard always uses the plural "Lords Chancellor" ([2] [3] etc.) "Lord Chancellors" seems to make more sense, as Chancellor is the noun, and Lord the adjective. In any event, it would appear that both terms are accepted. Emsworth 14:59, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof 1.1 is Now Available For Download

Happy Easter to all of you, and I hope that this version may fix your current problems and perhaps provide you with a few useful new tools. You can download version 1.1 at User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof. Let me warn you, however, to please be extremely careful when using the new Rollback All Contributions feature, as, aside from the excessive server lag it would cause if everyone began using it at once, it could seriously aggitate several editors to have their contributions reverted. If you would like to experiment with it, though, I'd be more than happy to use my many sockpuppets to create some "vandalism" for you to revert. If you have any problems downloading, installing, or otherwise, please tell me about them at User:AmiDaniel/VP/Bugs and I will do my best to help you. Thanks. AmiDaniel (Talk) 06:52, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof page blanking

Can you please explain what happened when you blanked the main and user pages of VandalProof... I suspect a bug in the software - Glen ^T_C (Stollery) 23:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I'd like to know as well. Are you using v1.1? If not, please upgrade as the old version has some fairly critical bugs with the mod tools. I'm going to temporarily remove you from the mods list until we can get this resolved. Oh, and Stollery, the reason your rollback of the Welcome page didn't work is because of the security measures I put in place to prevent vandalism etc. (Rather ironic, isn't it?) It's best to just revert the page manually with popups, rollback, or w/e else. AmiDaniel (Talk) 00:11, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I was able to isolate the cause. If you click update list before the list has been populated, it blanks it. The button shouldn't be enabled before the list loads, but somehow I misplaced the re-enable routine. I'll get that fixed up for the next release, but for now just be very careful when moderating the list. AmiDaniel (Talk) 00:22, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Community Justice/Elections

As Wikipedia:Community Justice has over 30 members, we are beginning the elections process.

If you are interested in becoming the chairman, the chief executive or councillor please add yourslef, and a statement, to Wikipedia:Community Justice/Elections.

Voting shall begin on April 24th, and end on May 1st. To see if you are eligible for a vote, please see Wikipedia:Community Justice/Elections.

Thank you,

Computerjoe's talk 20:53, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Problems with monobook.js

Hi User:Wisden17, I noticed that you had some problems with your monobook.js when trying to install Interiot's tool, but got it sorted-out. I have tried over a dozen times to install the Interiot and Lupin popup scripts and it still looks a mess. I have just (again) attempted to do an exact copy and paste from the first section of User:Wisden17/monobook.js to User:Benbest/monobook.js and it still looks a mess. What am I doing wrong? Please help.--Ben Best 13:11, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

CJ election reminder

Hi Wisden17

I noticed that you are not registered for voting or nomination in the CJ elections, and would like to remind everyone that all Candidates Must Submit Their Statement By April 23rd. Voting will begin April 24th, and end May 1st. More details on how to nominate yourself can be found HERE.

I hope to see you at the elections!

• The Giant Puffin • 20:24, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Problems with logging in

Hi Wisden 17, thanks for adding me to the userlist for VandalProof. However I have problems logging in, it says that my username is incorrect? But I seem to be on the list. I'm not sure if you're the right one to attend to?

Snailwalker | talk 22:32, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Whe I try to log in, it says it can't. I have done all the suggestions, and nothing works. I am wondering if my name got removed from the official list, or if there was a bug with the software, as I was able to use it this morning!

--Primate ^#101 23:49, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

The log-in problem has now been fixed (at least until someone starts changing templates again). Try again, and tell me if you have any problems. AmiDaniel (Talk) 00:12, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Attention Moderators: Toolserver

As you may be aware, the English language Wikipedia is no longer replicating data to the Wikimedia toolserver. Therefore, the data provided by Interiot's edit count tool is growing increasingly out of date, and in the interest of more accurately responding to user registration requests, I'd like to ask all moderators to look into downloading other tools for determining raw edit counts independent of the toolserver. One alternative would be Flcelloguy's Tool, although I've found his tool a little takes a considerable ammount of time to retrieve edit counts, and as such is not ideal for what we're doing. I'd also like to recommend my raw edit counter, which can be found at User:AmiDaniel/EditCounter, that provides the ability to limit the number of edits to be counted as well as the namespace in which to search and, thereby, is able to run at a much faster rate than Flcelloguy's tool. If you choose to use my tool, I recommend that you query mainspace edits with the limit set to 500 (though the default is 250, which runs somewhat faster). In my local version of VandalProof, the count button now loads this tool to query mainspace edits with a limit of 500, and, unless I find a tool more suited to our purpose, this will likely become the standard in the next release. If you choose not to download an alternative edit counter, please be sure to check the contributions of all users who fall below the standard 250 mainspace requirement, as they may have become more active within Wikipedia since the toolserver went down and now may be suited to use VandalProof. I'm sorry about all the problems we've been having since VP's release, but we're hopefully nearing the end. Thanks again for all your help! AmiDaniel (Talk) 06:50, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Mediation Committee

Yeah; no problem asking me about it. I'm kind of waiting for your MedCab case to finish up, at which case I'll make a final decision. Glad to see you're following up on your case, though. Ral315 (talk) 00:07, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

VP Page

Yes, that is the list loaded to determine who can user VaandalProof. Prodego ^talk 23:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof Eligibility

Hi,

I was wondering if I would be eligible again for VandalProof later on. I was rejected, probably because I have too few edits, which I can understand. But if I accumulate more constructive edits later on, would I be eligible again?

Thanks. MPN 23:23, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Old Skool Esperanzial note

Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower ^háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

cj elections

Oh, thanks for that...aighh, that's annoying since I just edited the template. --Osbus 20:53, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm afraid the electionstaff have the final say. I'm unwilling to overrule as it may appear as bias. However, I agree, it shouldn't be allowed. Computerjoe's talk 21:01, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

BTw [4]. Computerjoe's talk 21:04, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to defend my edit: I thought the rules on top were the official rules we were going to follow. B/c I thought this, I did not want to confuse people and changed the registration page. It's up to the election staff whether to rv my edits...as long as people aren't confused. --Osbus 21:39, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Advocate Team Re: RfC Woggly

I am presently coordinating a team of advocates re: my RfC for harassment by user:woggly. I welcome you to be one. Simply read the RFC lodged against me by user:woggly and the RFC which I have filed against her. It's really simple stuff when all of her harassment and my (and others) various attempts to resolve any issues are in black and white. Please also view the talks pages where Woggly admits to harassment and infers that she will not cease. Thank you for your consideration. Best wishes, IsraelBeach 19:27, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3

Administrator Coaching The Administrator Coaching program is a program aimed at preparing Wikipedians for Adminship or helping them understand the intricacies of Wikipedia better. Recently, changes have been made to the requirements of coachees. Please review them before requesting this service. This would be something like the Welcoming Committee, but for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. Some might like suggestions about how to learn vandal patrol, or mentoring on taking an article to featured status, or guidance with a proposal they plan to make at the Village Pump, for example. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins. Stressbusters The Stressbusters are a subset of Esperanza aiming to investigate the causes of stress. New eyes on the situation are always welcome! Note from the editor As always, MiszaBot handled this delivery. Thank you! Also, congratulations go to Pschemp, Titoxd and Freakofnurture for being elected in the last elections! An Esperanzial May to all of the readership!

The last AC meeting (full log) Posting logs of the Esperanza IRC channel are explicitly banned anywhere. Violation of this rule results in deletion and a ban from the channel. A disclaimer is going to be added to the Esperanza main page. We are humans and, as such, are imperfect. Various revisions have been made to the Code of Conduct. Please see them, as the proposal is ready to be ratified by the community and enacted. All members will members to have to re-confirm their membership after accepting the Code of Conduct. Referendums are to be held on whether terms of AC members should be lengthened and whether we should abolish votes full stop. Admin Coaching reform is agreed upon. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, Pschemp and Freakofnurture 20:29, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

self-consciousness mediation

hi Wisden17, can I do something to help the mediation of the conflict on Talk:Self-awareness? I am new to the mediation process, is it the being patient game now, or is there something i can be doing? Spencerk 02:28, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

VP mod needed

Hi, I am Eagle talk, I am a fellow moderator on VP. Currently the program is not recognizing my user name as a moderator. As such the program does not always recognize some of the changes I make to the VP official welcom page. (you know what I am talking about). This problem has been documented on User talk:AmiDaniel/VP/Bugs#Moderator update is not working. I request a "Null" edit to that page, The reason is a user I added is having problems logging in.

To do a "Null" edit, just make a minute change to the page and save. Then it will accept all previous changes made to it. (which are my additions) ThanksEagle talk 20:45, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

P.S. this message is going out to all moderators on at this time of day.

Community Justice Newsletter

Welcome Previously, various notices regarding Community Justice have gone out to our members; though this is the first actual newsletter. This issue will contain information regarding decisions made on the first meeting, our new council, and more...! If you wish to unsubscribe to future newsletters, please add your name to Wikipedia:Community Justice/Do Not Spam. New Council Following our first elections, a new council has been elected.Computerjoe and Ian13 remain as chairman and chief executive (respectively); while Eddieh, Wiki alf and Xchrisblackx are replaced as councillors by Ilyanep, Osbus and Covington. The Giant Puffin and Pureblade remain as councillors. Member Conduct In the last meeting, the conduct of 4 members was discussed. Ethnopunk will be put on probation, supervised by Ian13, if he/she is incivil during this probation, he/she will be expelled from WP:CJ; the same was decided for Misza13 (voluntarily), and his probation will be supervised by Computerjoe. No action will be taken against Computerjoe. Barnstar The Civility Barnstar which our members have designed has been sent to Barnstar and award proposals. We'd appreciate your feedback! Also, we are planning to make a Community Justice barnstar to give to hard-working CJ members. If you're a budding designer, consider trying to make it, then post your proposal to WT:CJ! Name and logo change There has been no consensus reached regarding changing our name and/or logo neither at WT:CJ nor at WT:CJ/M/1. While suggestions are still welcome, no action will be taken at this time. Programs We are going to try to create programs to more actively involve our members. If you have any ideas, please drop a line at WT:CJ. We will try to work with WP:ESP on one of these programs, at some point in the future. Thanks! Thank you for your time. If you need anything, feel free to comment at WT:CJ or come into our IRC channel [5]. Computerjoe wishes to extend his thanks to User:Robchurch, a non-member who assisted in making {{tracker}} redundant, as well as Misza13 for his continued support and to the whole of this and the previous council. This newsletter was delivered by CJBot, written by Computerjoe, with technical help from Misza13. Computerjoe's talk 19:30, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Medical_analysis_of_circumcision

As I mentioned on Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Medical_analysis_of_circumcision, I left Essjay a note to give him a chance to respond. Al 03:45, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

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Essjay has responded that his concern was over the number of people involved, but he has no objections at this time to you taking the case, and neither do I. Al 14:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof authentication problems

I don't seem to be authenticating upon attempted log-in. You were the moderator who noted adding me to the list (although I wasn't contacted via talk) and VP suggests contacting such moderator. Please look into this, I feel a bit crippled using Pop-Ups right now ;). Cheers, ••\\/\//esleyPinkha//\/\\•• 05:47, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

None Taken

I'll reach the approved number of edits (250) and I'll re-apply. Sean (talk || contribs| esperanza)) 11:22, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof Access

Thanks! - sYndicate ^talk 19:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Created Moderator User box and Category

This user is a VandalProof Moderator

To add yourself to this category, add {{VandalProof Moderators}} for the user box above, or [[Category:Wikipedians that are VandalProof Moderators|{{PAGENAME}}]] to your user page. Thanks! - Glen ^T_C (Stollery) 23:15, 17 May 2006 (UTC)