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Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/The Goldfinch

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted

Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Fabritius-vink.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 18:25, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A bastard's guide to writing a featured article

While it does not work at FAC, it not only works at GA, but I have automated it. The Bot can select articles worthy of GA, and nominate them. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 02:11, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As long as it nominates under my name, that sounds fine. Yomangani ^talk 08:35, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Taking one consideration with another

I searched the list of gongs to find one to pin on you, but none seemed adequate. Permit me to pin my own personal medal on you for – well, obviously taking BB's last article to FAC – but also for your gentle and kindly intervention at the punch-up on the FAC general talk page. I don't entirely agree with you at all turns, but I hereby confer on you my Sellar and Yeatman Award for being a Good Thing. Tim riley talk 18:57, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I wish I'd got the reference without have to look it up - I thought it was the two guys from University Challenge. Yomangani ^talk 21:23, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Valentine's Day thanks

	Heartfelt thanks
	... for your many years of considerable help to make Tourette syndrome the best it can be. Happy Valentine's Day to you and yours! Sandy (Talk) 19:10, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Goldfinch

Now has the star, many thanks Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:33, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A Dobos torte for you!

7&6=thirteen (☎) has given you a Dobos torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it.

To give a Dobos torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:42, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You are apparently guilty of writing run on sentences. The very first sentence of Australasian Antarctic Expedition has fifty words. Take a look at my user page for the reasons why this is important. This is not good writing. It is unbecoming of an WP:FA IMO. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:49, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(watching:) If you look at the FAC you'll see that we keep this sentence as the beloved Brian Boulton wrote it. We can't possibly blame him ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:04, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda Arendt He may be beloved, but it is awful and incomprehensible to anyone, let alone normal readers. We do him honor by improving on his work, not eternally memorializing editorial mistakes by setting then into concrete.

And yes, I liked the edit summaries too. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:11, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A run-on sentence isn't what you think it is. We aren't writing for Simple Wikipedia or some Government information site, we are writing for people who are at least partially interested; varying sentence lengths are fine. Also, I didn't write most of that, so I'm pleading not guilty. Yomangani ^talk 15:14, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"it is awful and incomprehensible to anyone, let alone normal readers" - that's a bit silly. Yomangani ^talk 15:17, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Besides, everyone knows that normal is just a setting on the clothesdryer. (Facebook told me so.) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:21, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

He is beloved. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:25, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much, Gerda. I like you too. Yomangani ^talk 15:36, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, she did say "is", and not "was". SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:29, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am not going to edit war over this. And yes, we are nowhere near the Longest English sentence. I've said my piece. So have at it. 15:30, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

7+6, don't look now, but in the environment that has recently taken over at FAC, strident criticism of prose on a FAC is enough to start a big drahma-fest and get you chased out of FAC. (In other words, I appreciate that you registered your concern and am very happy to see Yomangani modeling for others the grown-up way to respond to strident prose criticism.) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:33, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:SandyGeorgia Mere statement of fact. Not "strident crticism."

As to "get you chased out of FAC" – what is that supposed to mean? 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:37, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

7+6 fear not; I am using this as an example to comment on a trend that has taken over recently at FAC, where criticism is discouraged, and very good copyeditors have been chased out. Criticism at FAC should be ENCOURAGED at all times, review should be strident, we should not lower our standards, and we should not respond to criticism like entitled children. I look forward to seeing this issue play out as one of this nature should at FAC, not as a drahma-fest. I did not intend for my commentary to sound like a threat; your criticism is valid, and now we should see what others have to say. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:41, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, criticism registered, here, there and at FAC. I'm not going to act on it, as I don't agree, but if the consensus is with you, that's fine. Yomangani ^talk 15:43, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be interested in what Dank would say, our no. 1 TFA blurb writer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:46, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to look at any blurb. - Dank (push to talk) 17:35, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In the "olden days", leads were expected to be reviewed to be blurb ready. Dank shouldn't be having to extensively rewrite many of them, because FAC isn't reviewing them. Take, as an example, how much Dank had to do here, even before Outriggr recently edited that lead to repair it because it was indigestible.[1][2] That lead was not well reviewed at FAC, and it appears that both Dank and Outriggr saw that. Along with sourcing and prose and MOS, scrutiny of leads at FAC has diminished. And Dank is having to fix sub-standard leads when he writes blurbs. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:40, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've shortened it anyway (for the imaginary "everybody" who couldn't make out what it meant no matter how hard they tried). Yomangani ^talk 16:56, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We are all on the same team with the same goal. We are all volunteers here. No offense was expressed or intended. Believe me, I am well aware of the problems of editing by committee. Been there; done that. FWIW, the "reasonable man" is a legal fiction too. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:03, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I explained over at the FAC why this matters personally to me (medical FAs destroyed, as well as the issue of modeling how we should respond to criticism at FAC). Thanks for giving me the opportunity to indulge not one, but two, pet peeves! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:20, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Most interesting use of the clock

	Edit summaries were enticing
	I enjoyed your edit summaries at Australasian Antarctic Expedition "Voyage south: 1912 or almost quarter past seven" Appropos, 25 or 6 to 4 at Tanglewood via YouTube 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:38, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

Great to have you with us again! I decorated my talk on the rare occasion of Rossini's birthday. Feel free to take some February flowers from there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:07, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats for getting Brians expedition to FA! Will you nominate for TFA? I see no specific date. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:32, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'm sure it will get picked up for TFA at some point now we don't have enough new FAs to fill the slots. All the poignant date connections have just been missed or are much later in the year. Yomangani ^talk 00:35, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It was picked for today. Thank you for the efforts to keep Brian's work appreciated, saying: Australasian Antarctic Expedition "was Brianboulton's last big almost finished project, so it would be nice to get it to FA as a tribute." - Aza24 and I work on making Monteverdi's operas a featured topic, the list is up for FL, - something I never did successfully ;) - help welcome. - Talking about tributes: yesterday, a composer was pictured on the Main page who wrote a triple concerto for violin, harp and double bass, the article on the piece written in honour of the composer who died and my brother who plays double bass. The composer was a Wikipedian and wrote about his colleague, with a picture. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:45, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I missed the dogs drama, sorry. That would have been the perfect DYK today, - what a shame. Could that become a GA, even FA, perhaps? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

		The Epic Barnstar
		Dear Yomangani, Heartfelt congratulations on bringing Brian Boulton's rewrite of Australasian Antarctic Expedition to FA status. I dare say he would have been very pleased, not least also thanks to your highly entertaining and wonderfully extravagant edit summaries! So, very well done, and thank you also for all your other contributions to our encyclopedia. With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.^(talk)^{(become old-fashioned!)} 19:17, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Dogs of the Australasian Antarctic Expedition

Hello! Your submission of Dogs of the Australasian Antarctic Expedition at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:40, 6 March 2020 (UTC) 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:40, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Replaceable fair use File:Splicethemainbrace.jpg

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DYK nomination of Dogs of the Australasian Antarctic Expedition

Hello! Your submission of Dogs of the Australasian Antarctic Expedition at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:05, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please see new note on your DYK nomination. Yoninah (talk) 21:37, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yoninah Yomangani has not edited for several days. I have tried to go look at his DYK to see if I can help, but I am getting a weird database error which won't let me access the template: A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. [Xou1agpAMMUAA2CZeUgAAABQ] 2020-04-06 23:04:10: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError" SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:06, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So then, I tried to post for help at WP:VPT, and got the same error. We're broken in here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:08, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm here, Sandy, never fear. Can't solve your DB error though. Yomangani ^talk 23:10, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OH, what a relief it is. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:13, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Database error gone. And I see the DYK fixed. Darn, just when I wanted to be the hero. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 08:55, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sledging For Peace

Some of us were worried you'd gone off on an (Ant)(Aa)r(c)tic Expedition or something. Come to think of it, it might be the smart move. Outriggr (talk) 03:33, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Oh, Sandy was here first. When isn't she?! Outriggr (talk) 03:35, 7 April 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Sorry for any concern caused. It was pure coincidence. I was stocking up on guzzoline for when the thundering machines sputter and stop. Yomangani ^talk 07:20, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It was the "or something" part that I've been losing sleep over. Outriggr, I am days behind in responding on your talk to many things, and I was worried about you, too. (I see you've noticed I have had my hands full.) Can I go all "sneer of cold command" (which the dear hubby often associates with my online personaggio) and demand that you all at least check in here daily during the pandemic? I got enough to worry about! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 08:54, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure I can do every day (obviously I can't, as I haven't), but I will @you: when I do log in - because I know you love to be pinged @SandyGeorgia: @SandyGeorgia:, @SandyGeorgia: Yomangani ^talk 23:06, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Neener, neener, only got one ping! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:07, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Who do I see about a refund? Yomangani ^talk 23:14, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Dogs of the Australasian Antarctic Expedition

Hello! Your submission of Dogs of the Australasian Antarctic Expedition at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:27, 9 April 2020 (UTC) 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:27, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help but it is more trouble than it's worth. Yomangani ^talk 23:08, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Dogs of the Australasian Antarctic Expedition

Hello! Your submission of Dogs of the Australasian Antarctic Expedition at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:07, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The time limits are only the starting gun. It still qualifies. There are four paragraphs that need citations, and they are marked with "citation needed". You are now over all the other hurdles. You've run 25 miles (40 km). Finish the marathon.

I understand your frustration. Yes, you are right: the WP:DYK process is bureaucratic and overladen with rules – common sense is not part of it. And it takes too long. Believe me, I have been on the other end of this b.s. We need to fix the problem, not fix the blame. Finishing up your article and getting it on the main page is what we can do today.

FWIW, I personally invested a QPQ. And this article (and picture) is a really good addition to Wikipedia. Don't give up. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:41, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain

Re: this edit, absolutely no complaints. But the quote in the edit summary was fascinating. Please please tell me the source. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 17:22, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

C&C, that would typically be a Yoman original. You should see him in Spanish. More importantly ... pass the Serum!! Good to "see" you, Yoman. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:08, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:51, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Greetings of the season

I Am Half-Sick of Shadows, Said the Lady of Shalott		Happy holidays
		Dear Yo-Man, For you and all your loved ones, "Let there be mercy". Wishing you health, peace and happiness this holiday season and in the coming year. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:25, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Always precious

Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. I remember you for precious edit summaries on top of excellent reviews, and for the energy you put in making an unfinished article by Brian a FA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:43, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you today for Oceanic whitetip shark, a 2008 article! - Miss you and such articles. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:25, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Goldfinch is an oil-on-panel painting by the Dutch Golden Age artist Carel Fabritius of a life-sized chained goldfinch. Signed and dated 1654, it is now in the collection of the Mauritshuis in The Hague, Netherlands. The work is a trompe-l'œil painting that was once part of a larger structure, perhaps a window jamb or a protective cover. It is possible that the work was in Fabritius's studio in Delft at the time of a large gunpowder explosion on 12 October 1654 that killed him and destroyed much of the city. A common and colourful bird with a pleasant song, the goldfinch was a popular pet, and could be taught simple tricks including lifting a thimble-sized bucket of water. It was reputedly a bringer of good health, and was used in Italian Renaissance painting as a symbol of Christian redemption and the Passion of Jesus. The Goldfinch is unusual for the Dutch Golden Age painting period in the simplicity of its composition and use of illusionary techniques. Following the death of its creator, it was lost for more than two centuries before its rediscovery in Brussels.

Painting credit: Carel Fabritius

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