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Kiboy (gamer)[edit]

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Obviously fails GNG. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 12:49, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Video games. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 12:49, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:01, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The article has sources, and searching for this guy brings up a few more (e.g. 1 2 3). The names pops up in dozens of articles, most of them in Indonesian, and while I don't think that those are all pristine sources, "Obviously fails GNG" would only be a valid complaint if there were no sources at all.

Excuse you? the three sources you've given are not reliable. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 06:57, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Those sources would not be sufficient. I'd recommend looking more into things listed as reliable at WP:VG/S or WP:RSP. Sergecross73 msg me 13:42, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Those two sites list few to no Indonesian sources, so they aren't very helpful here. Also, reliability doesn't require a source to be listed there. Cortador (talk) 15:54, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did not suggest otherwise. But this is a WP:BLP. It requires sourcing stronger than a few obscure video game blogs. Sergecross73 msg me 17:46, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tribun Network - which is currently cited twice in the article - is a mainstream Indonesian news outlet. What gave you the impression that is is a "video game blog"? Cortador (talk) 18:57, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was referring to the three sources you (or whoever it was who failed to sign their own comment) presented in the actual discussion. The ones with names like "Oneesports", "VCgamers", and "Duniagames". Those are the ones that sound like low-level gaming blogs. Sergecross73 msg me 19:07, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you dismiss them based on the name alone then? Cortador (talk) 20:15, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, I evaluated them. You have an awful lot of (bad faith?) questions for someone who never even bothered to advance an argument for their reliability in the first place. Sergecross73 msg me 22:47, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's no base assumption of unreliability for sources. Also, do me a favour and don't accuse me of arguing in bad faith when you are the one dismissing sources based on what their name sounds like. Cortador (talk) 04:59, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's no base assumption of reliability either. It's your prerogative if you don't wish to explain yourself, but it's certainly a bizarre choice in a discussion where you're trying to persuade others of your stance. Sergecross73 msg me 11:09, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've explained my stance above. Cortador (talk) 11:20, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You keep saying this as if that was self-evident. Can you read Indonesian? If so, what makes see these sources - or any others you should have found during WP:BEFORE - unreliable? Just declaring that anything on this guy is unreliable isn't sufficient Cortador (talk) 15:59, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Wikipedia is not promotion, and a name popping up in a few places is insufficient for notability. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:15, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I'm not able to see or find the sourcing to support the WP:GNG of a WP:BLP. Everything thing seems to be brief mentions and obscure/unreliable gaming blogs. Nothing to build a case of notability around. The article is largely devoid of content anyways, so no big loss. Sergecross73 msg me 11:15, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]