Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Molecule Art

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. I am willing to restore to draft space if the original creator would like to continue to work on it. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Molecule Art

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Absolutely no notability of this term is shown in the article; it mostly appears to be a gallery of a few drawings. A BEFORE search of the term was fruitless as it doesn't appear to be an actual recognised term and I'm just getting lots of results for art of molecules. Fails WP:GNG. CoconutOctopus talk 18:06, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Arts, Visual arts, and Science. CoconutOctopus talk 18:07, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand. It is not well known at all. It is very niche, my hope is to expand that niche and to make it more known.

Here are some sufficient links to examples of molecule art. If you would like me to include these as references and citations to strengthen the integrity of the article, do let me know.

Thank you

Links:

https://cen.acs.org/education/science-communication/Chemistry-Pictures-Painting-pigments/102/web/2024/08 (Pigment molecules)

https://cen.acs.org/biological-chemistry/natural-products/Chemistry-Pictures-scent-ual-sketch/101/web/2023/01 (Scent molecules)

https://pdb101.rcsb.org/sci-art/goodsell-gallery (Proteins and simplified molecular mechanics)

https://www.treasuresofvidya.com/wallart/lsd-wall-art (Wall art with Lysergic Acid compounds)

https://www.tiktok.com/@uokram (Only does a form of molecule art)

https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/Molecularts(Etsy account only sells molecule arts)

https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/CENODS/20220331lnp20-chembro?$responsive$&wid=700&qlt=90,0&resMode=sharp2 ("Chembroidery" image)

https://cen.acs.org/synthesis/biocatalysis/Chemistry-Pictures-Chembroidery/100/web/2022/03 (Chembroidery website)

https://www.etsy.com/listing/682490099/science-embroidery-kit-love-hormone (Chembroidery for sale)

https://cen.acs.org/materials/photonics/Chemistry-Pictures-Fluorescence-twist/99/web/2021/02 (Florescent molecule art)

https://cen.acs.org/synthesis/Chemistry-Pictures-Structure-refinement-fructo/97/web/2019/06(Fruit based molecule art) Cmspeedrunner (talk) 18:54, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Etsy and similar sites are not reliable sources; neither is TikTok. I'm also not seeing evidence of any use of the specific term "Molecule Art" on these sources, rather just examples of art that happens to use molecules in it, which certainly exists, but I don't believe is notable. CoconutOctopus talk 19:06, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand Etsy and tiktok are not good wikipedia citation or reference sources, but in the conversation about being recognised as an art form, the evidence presented is sufficent. It is referred to as "[name of molecule] - art", "Molecularts", "Chembroidery" and "Molecule art" in a few already listed places as a generalisation. Would it not be useful to define an umbrella term?

What would this art be defined as?

List of art movements is a lengthy list with some entries being an increment different to others and having little established use. Cmspeedrunner (talk) 19:27, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cmspeedrunner: Wikipedia is not designed as a place to write an article about everything that is "recognised as an art form," you must demonstrate notability. The article wasn't brought to this deletion discussion because the nominator said it was a hoax--then evidence that it at least exists would be much more useful, but that it has "absolutely no notability." JJP_{Mas_ter} (she/they) 19:33, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have demonstrated the notability above with the links. Coconut Octopus replied by saying it was invalid due to the lack of the term "Molecule Art", this does not demonstrate a lack of notability but a lack of a centralised definition, which this article is attempting to do. Cmspeedrunner (talk) 20:02, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cmspeedrunner: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a dictionary or a place to "centralise[] [a] definition." To demonstrate notability, you must establish that your topic has significant coverage in multiple independent, reliable secondary sources, not just that something similar to what is described in the article exists. JJP_{Mas_ter} (she/they) 20:19, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as too soon. I’ve seen molecule art used in STEAM education, but I’m not sure if it’s catching on. Bearian (talk) 04:06, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete but allow draftification if the first major contributor wishes. Like Bearian says, this subject could become notable later. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:17, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, yet to meet the notability guidelines as aforementioned. Perhaps could refer to WP:NMG. Pygos (talk) 10:29, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - this "art movement" or "art form" does not meet notability criteria per WP:GNG for inclusion in the encyclopedia. A BEFORE search does not find any art historical or art critical coverage for this movement. A Google Books search finds zero hits, and a search of Oxford Art Online, The Concise Dictionary of Art Terms, Encyclopedia of Aesthetics and the Oxford Handbook of Aesthetics show no results for "Molecule art". I noticed that all the images used in the article were uploaded as the article creator's "own" artwork and released as the copyright holder. If that is the case, then WP:NOTAWEBHOST might also apply. Netherzone (talk) 14:53, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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