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crib#Noun

Rfv-sense: A room-like space used for prostitution. Citation is for a proper noun: "The Cribs".

crib#Verb

Rfv-sense X 2:

1 (intransitive) To cram for a particular subject from notes.

2 (intransitive, rare) To complain [about something].

Citations would be useful to confirm intransitive/trans usage, context, frequency, as well as existence.

--DCDuring TALK 12:54, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Failed; removed; striking.​—msh210℠ 17:06, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

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crib

crib#Noun Rfd-redundant 2 senses.

1. A covered structure, for confining animals.
2. A stall for large domestic animals.

I believe that these are adequately covered by: A small room or covered structure, especially one of rough construction, used for storage or penning animals. This last would benefit from further attention. DCDuring TALK 12:43, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

crib#Verb Rfd-redundant:

To engage in academic dishonesty by the illicit use of a pony or cheat sheet; plagiarism.

I believe this (if it indeed exists) is covered by:

To collect one or more passages and/or references for use in a speech, written document or as an aid for some task; to create a crib sheet.

--DCDuring TALK 12:52, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

The "to collect one or more..." sense is marked "intransitive" but its usex shows transitive use. I also know it as transitive. but google books:"cribbed|cribbing for * test|exam|final|midterm" shows intransitive use also. So perhaps two senses are necessary, though the "engage in academic dishonesty" one may be too specific. (Or maybe they should be one sense anyway, tagged {{ambitransitive}}.)​—msh210℠ 17:58, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Both ambitransitive and bitransitive are ways of marking en.wikt as being for language insiders only, which does seem to be the reality, so perhaps it would be truth in advertising. Combining transitive and intransitive into one sense means that the definition cannot be subsitutable, which is, I think, a desideratum of a good definition. Non-gloss (good for grammaticals and interjections) or full-sentence (used in some language-learner dictionaries (COBUILD, Encarta) are alternative approaches.

I do see that both transitive and intransitive may be required. How does the transitive sense work? Is it "He cribbed the answers from an e-mail from his friend in the earlier class."? I guess it would usually be passive. DCDuring TALK 18:27, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Deleted all redundant senses.--Jusjih 01:55, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Education sense: cheat sheet or past test

Chambers 1908 has a different twist on this: "(colloquial) a translation of a classic baldly literal, for lazy schoolboys" — i.e. the Spark Notes of its day! Equinox ◑ 20:45, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

merge verb senses 3 and 4

# (transitive) To collect one or more passages and/or references for use in a speech, written document or as an aid for some task; to create a crib sheet.

# (transitive, informal) To plagiarize; to copy; to cheat.

The latter sense seems to me to be a natural outgrowth of the former, rather than an independent meaning. It's copying passages/references as an aid in some task, generally an illicit or shameful one. I think these should be combined. (Actually I went ahead and combined them, but thought better of doing it unilaterally and reverted it.) --157.131.197.200 20:37, 31 December 2020 (UTC)