User talk:Quadmix77
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Thank you
[edit]Thank you for your contribution to Jeju vocabulary entries! 幻光尘 (talk) 13:55, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
Jeju Hanja
[edit]There is currently no definitive evidence that Jeju has written in Chinese characters (Hanja). So please apply for the deletion of the created Chinese character entries first, thank you. (except for the interpretation of words) For more information, please click here. 幻光尘 (talk) 05:35, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Chinese dialect pronunciation.
[edit]Hello. What is your source for these? —Suzukaze-c (talk) 02:34, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- All the mistakes point to the fact that the pronunciations were inferred from the pronunciations on the individual character entries. Please stop doing this, and please respond. If you don't, further action will be taken. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 18:36, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Dhivehi
[edit]Your IPA seems inconsistent (certainly doesn't correspond with the Wikipedia article on Dhivehi) and there's no reason for me to believe you know Dhivehi. I've reverted all your Dhivehi edits. —AryamanA (मुझसे बात करें • योगदान) 23:20, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- Unfortunately he keeps making them. I have to wonder why. Rolando 1208 (talk) 16:20, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
Old Korean grammatical forms
[edit]Hi Quadmix77,
Thanks for the work you've done WRT Korean, they look great. Just a question about Old Korean—I think 叱, 隱, etc., aren't reconstructions because they're directly attested in the OK corpus. This is in contrast to actual reconstructed OK terms based on internal or cross-dialectal reconstruction, like e.g. OK *nupey for "silkworm". Would you disagree with me moving the attested OK terms to mainspace?--Karaeng Matoaya (talk) 08:48, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
Gyeongsang forms and MK
[edit]Hi Quadmix77,
Just a note that Gyeongsang forms with non-lenited consonants are not descended from Middle Korean forms. In the case of something like 무ᅀᅮ, the Old Korean form was *무수 *mwuswu, which survived in Gyeongsang while Seoul underwent a typical lenition to deletion process: *mwuswu > mwuzwu > mwuu > modern 무 mwu. Same thing for 사ᄫᅵ, etc. It is not correct to put such Gyeongsang forms as descendants of Middle Korean forms where lenition is already underway.--Karaeng Matoaya (talk) 01:50, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- In addition to this, when dealing with dialectal forms, just a friendly note to not add pronunciation modules for anything other than Standard (Seoul) Korean. They will produce inaccurate results (e.g. lack of tone, lack of vowel merger for Gyeongsang, showing [l] instead of [r] for Yukjin).--Karaeng Matoaya (talk) 03:24, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Korean dialect data and Middle Korean data
[edit]What sources are you using for these? I'm intrigued. —Suzukaze-c (talk) 03:38, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi. You added a quote at ᄒᆞ다 linked to a template that doesn't exist. Can you say what the book was, please? --Daleusher (talk) 13:20, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Proto-Korean
[edit]If possible, could you refrain from making Proto-Korean reconstructions based on my writings please? I am intentionally refraining from making things like *kwoco because I feel they are too speculative.--Karaeng Matoaya (talk) 07:59, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- *kwoco can probably stay (Vovin makes a similar point to Ito WRT L-pitch monosyllables) but generally speaking, please avoid making reconstructed entries on based on etymology redlinks I make; most of the time I am keeping them red for a reason.--Karaeng Matoaya (talk) 10:49, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Jeju vowels
[edit]<ㅟ and <ㅚ> are never /y/ or /ø/ in Jeju; they are always /wi/ or /we/, as in Seoul Korean. Furthermore, Jeju has no vowel length. Could you be more careful about this please? Cheers, Karaeng Matoaya (talk) 09:26, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Cite your sources. Your usage example is not original and currently is a copyright violation. —Suzukaze-c (talk) 00:26, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Templates
[edit]Please use {{syn}}
for synonyms and {{ko-regional}}
for North Korean forms. Thanks!--Tibidibi (talk) 03:07, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
I saw you changed this to "fourth consonant in Tamil." May I know your source? I have only found sources that contradicts this as I added in hidden text on that page. — Fredrick Campbell (talk) 09:15, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Fredrick Campbell See my response on User talk:AleksiB 1945. Prahlad balaji (talk) 13:20, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
If possible, pelase check it is correct or not when you create articles before. Dubukimchi (talk) 14:20, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
Hiya - where did you get the Cyrillic гаслан ац нөгчсөн from for the above? I think it's supposed to be гаслангаас нөгчсөн (gaslangaas nögčsön) (i.e. in the ablative case: "(having) passed beyond suffering"). I think the problem is caused by the fact that Wiktionary puts a full space between stems and suffixes, instead of a narrow no-break space as it should. Also, I can't seem to find this term anywhere - where did you find it? The usual term is нярваан (njarvaan). Theknightwho (talk) 17:02, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
Rohingya Sources
[edit]Where did you get any Rohingya words? Apisite (talk) 06:44, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
In this edit, how did you get the descendents especially the Toda, Kota, Kuvi etc terms? AleksiB 1945 (talk) 12:51, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
Request for adding descendants
[edit]Hi, I have seen that you are recently adding the numerous descendants of various Sanskrit terms (etymons), which is undeniably hard for many and really appreciated. So, can you please add the descendants of this Sanskrit word: कुटी? 103.112.54.39 10:58, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Quadmix77 Thank you very much for adding them. 103.112.54.39 14:47, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- You're welcome! Quadmix77 (talk) 15:21, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
Sanskrit reconstructions
[edit]At Wiktionary, we treat Turner's "Sanskrit" reconstructions such as *ṭokka as Ashokan Prakrit. Turner reconstructs a lot of such words which are phonetically improbable to be native Old Indo-Aryan (Classical Sanskrit did have words of this structure due to Middle Indo-Aryan influence). A more proper label for these terms would be "Proto-Middle-Indo-Aryan", but since that did not gain unanimous acceptance, we settled at Ashokan Prakrit. The rest of Turner's reconstructions are just unattested compounds of two or more attested Sanskrit terms. Such reconstructions are better left to the etymology sections of the relevant New Indo-Aryan entry. -- 𝓑𝓱𝓪𝓰𝓪𝓭𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓪(𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓴) 05:38, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- This entry is problematic for the following reasons:
- The source given for it (Turner) is not sure if the descendants (there are only two of them) are inherited or borrowing from Iranian.
- One may argue it is hardly possible for an isolated insular language like Dhivehi to borrow from Iranian but then even if it is inherited, the term can easily be explained as having a Middle Indo-Aryan pleonastic -ra-. Mutations of such kind can be shown under the derived terms of the original page (कपोत (kapota)) without having to go all the way back to the level of Sanskrit to reconstruct a term, especially when there are only two descendants which, as the source acknowledges, may be borrowings.
So right now I am inclined towards the deletion of the entry. If you have anything to add in the defense of the entry, you may do so here. -- 𝓑𝓱𝓪𝓰𝓪𝓭𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓪(𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓴) 06:50, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi,
could you please explain this edit? See this paper about the rules on how to pronounce the inherent vowel. On page 8 it says the following: "A few of the remaining errors are due to homographs; “වන” - /vanə/, /vənə/; “කල” -/kalə/, /kələ/; “කර” - /karə/, /kərə/." which to me clearly means that /a/ and /ə/ are separate phonemes: they (e.g. /vanə/ and /vənə/) wouldn't be "homographs" if they were just alternative pronunciations for the same word with the same meaning. If /a/ and /ə/ are separate phonemes, they both may appear in a phonemic transcription between slashes. Mölli-Möllerö (talk) 20:09, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
Please be more careful with Koreanic entries
[edit]PLEASE be more careful with creating Koreanic entries. While it's nice to see more entries, I've noticed that a lot of them have glaring errors or other issues that make the entries have incorrect information. For example at Middle Korean ᄆᆞᄅᆞᆷ〮 (mòlóm) you created the entry using Jeju in the headword template (wrong language!) and then omitting tones not only from the headword template, but also the phonemic IPA in the pronunciation section. You've been corrected on this before, please remember to add tones per WT:About Korean/Historical forms.
Also, I've become very skeptical of your recent Jeju entries. For example, at 지쁘다 (jippeuda), you added a Verb sense, but looking at credible Jeju resources (the digital museum one is NOT credible on its own as has been stated before), I can only find an Adjective sense, and that fits its etymology and usage. More examples of this are at 큰어멍 (keuneomeong) where until very recently, it had the entirely wrong definition, and at 아시 (asi) that will need updating to reflect how its used by both genders. Please make sure to take the time verify these things, and also look for quotes and usages. I have plenty of resources listed on my User page that you can look through. Nonetheless, if issues like these continue, I'll have to ask for a formal block, and I really do not want to have to do this. AG202 (talk) 07:10, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- Alright! I'll be more cautious on creating more entries and will always check to make sure if information on an entry is right. Quadmix77 (talk) 16:54, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
Malayalam verb lemmas
[edit]@Quadmix77 I mentioned this on the குழை entry as well, but now you did the same thing at ஈடேறு and உய்: when listing Malayalam verb cognates, unlike in Tamil, the lemma form is the infinitive, ending in -ക. Please remember this when creating future entries: it must be adjusted. Cyrohdn3 (talk) 11:51, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
आवाज
[edit]What's the Latin spelling of Konkani आवाज (āvāj)? -- Apisite (talk) 05:58, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
Thanks; don't forget Konkani numerals like तीन (tīn). --Apisite (talk) 06:34, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
There's also चित्र (citra); besides, how may I inform you of any entries, Konkani or not, that need updating? --Apisite (talk) 05:39, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
Found घाम (ghām) in need of expansion. --Apisite (talk) 21:50, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
If you're going to add this to an entry, the exact spelling for that entry has to be in the Module:number list/data/
submodule for the language. Right now, തൃതീയം and ചതുർത്ഥം are both in CAT:E because they aren't in Module:number list/data/ml. Please either add them to the data submodule or remove the template from the entries. Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 01:54, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi
[edit]Thank you for contributing to Meitei language terms in English wiktionary. However, I believe that ꯈꯡꯕ꯭ꯔꯥꯡꯆꯥꯛ is a wrong spelling. I hope you are able to read and write Meitei script. Even if not, I can help you. The correct spelling is ꯈꯝꯕ꯭ꯔꯥꯡꯆꯥꯛ. Haoreima (talk) 13:14, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
R:fur:ARLeF
[edit]Could you make the template {{R:fur:ARLeF}}
, which would certainly be similar to {{R:vep:UVVV}}
, but involving Italian words rather than Russian ones.
Take the following web-page, for example: https://arlef.it/grant-dizionari-bilenghe-talian-furlan/?word=topazio&trad=ttf
- Here's another one: https://arlef.it/grant-dizionari-bilenghe-talian-furlan/?word=topazi&trad=ftt
- How else could the template be made, based on the aforementioned web-pages? --Apisite (talk) 09:23, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Of course, there's also
{{R:DDO}}
. --Apisite (talk) 09:31, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for reading. -- Apisite (talk) 09:20, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
manual horizontal rules
[edit]Please don't put manual horizontal rules (----
) between languages, as you did on گر. They have been deprecated as of a year ago or so. Benwing2 (talk) 23:16, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, I edited it out from the article! Quadmix77 (talk) 23:38, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
The quality of your entries.
[edit]Please slow down. You are working in a large number of languages and we do not know your level of expertise in them. You have been making quite a few mistakes which is making us suspect you know very little about the languages you are editing in and are indiscriminately importing entries from somewhere. In the past too, I had to bring up an issue with your editing as you had erroneously created कपोत्र and you just ignored those concerns. You are making edits in Hindi, Punjabi, Sindhi, Sanskrit, etc without any knowledge of inheritance or borrowings.
Wiktionary should not be a bot generated dump but should rather have quality entries even if it means lesser entries. Please put more effort into your entries as people have been banned over such offenses. -- 𝘗𝘶𝘭𝘪𝘮𝘢𝘪𝘺𝘪(𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘬) 06:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Alright. I will be slowing down when editing and/or creating articles and not really go that fast when doing so. Quadmix77 (talk) 06:43, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Also, this message was to address the fact that one should not edit heavily in languages one has very little knowledge of. It will be helpful if you declared in your userpage what languages you speak so that we are aware of your expertise in a language while assessing your edits in that language. -- 𝘗𝘶𝘭𝘪𝘮𝘢𝘪𝘺𝘪(𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘬) 11:02, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- You have been blocked for a week for refusing to stay away from languages you do not know. You have been making errors in your entries that showcase the fact that you have no idea what you are doing. The more you repeat this behaviour the longer your blocks will be. -- 𝘗𝘶𝘭𝘪𝘮𝘢𝘪𝘺𝘪(𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘬) 12:57, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, can you attest/cite your entry Kannada ಮಯೂಖ (mayūkha)? It looks like a dictionary-only word, but to pass the criteria for inclusion you need to provide 3 quotes using this term from durably archived sources like Google Books, otherwise it will be deleted. – Svārtava (tɕ) 08:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)