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  • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    I never thought I’d have a gov that had a health dept that was determined to make me sick. I expect things to be occasionally suppressed, bias, and flawed studies but not a deliberate effort. It is like they put the Phillip Morris tobacco company in charge.

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    14 hours ago

    Next up, UFO conspiracists will determine if alien UFOs are real, Kennedy assassination conspiracists will review the Kennedy files.

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    23 hours ago

    Wouldn’t that involve them causing autism to prove it does?

    “I’m autistic because I was a test subject for a government op…”

    bruh…

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      16 hours ago

      Honestly there is an even darker side to this.

      There are parents who would rather see there kid die from a preventable disease than have Autism.

    • gamer@lemm.ee
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      20 hours ago

      Plot twist: they scale up the study nationwide, offering free flu vaccines to anyone who “volunteers” for the study as long as they take an autism test before and after.

  • Chainweasel@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    There’s no such thing as a “vaccine skeptic”.
    Skeptic implies that they could have their opinion swayed if presented with evidence. The fact that they’re still “skeptical” despite literal mountains of evidence shows that they only call themselves “skeptics” because it makes them sound reasonable, when in reality if they could have been swayed by reason they would have changed their minds a long time ago.

    • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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      16 hours ago

      Any paper showing Vaccines don’t cause Autism is immediately disregarded as “propaganda from the far left”

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      1 day ago

      they try to downplay anti-vaxxers, thats what they really are, this include vaccine hesitency.

  • misteloct@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    WaPo strikes again with a plausibly deniable disinformation title, using the word “skeptic” wrong on purpose. I expect nothing less from Bezos.

  • Jollyllama@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    These people have co-opted the work “skeptic”.

    I grew up Orthodox and became skeptical of god’s role in my life, now I’m agnostic.

    My parents became “skeptical” of vaccines. Once they found their first antivax substack they are no longer “skeptical” but rather certain vaccines cause autism and covid vax causes heart attacks.

    I find it hilarious (sad) they stop being skeptical once they find “proof” of their suspicions and then claim to be skeptics.

    They of course have seen all the research supporting vaccines and deemed it insubmissable because it was funded by big pharma or the WHO (CHINA).

    The only science they believe is the shit pushed by their “independent” researchers (crunchy influencers).

    🤮

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      24 hours ago

      Don’t worry, Republicans have been hard at work destroying our public education system so that people in the future won’t be burdened with seeing and understanding their parents’ hypocrisy for what it is.

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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      When you’re agnostic you’re just a closet atheist. It’s not that atheists are sure there is no god, we’re not, nobody can say that for sure. We can (and do) say, however, that you don’t have to worry about made up fairy tale rules, there likely isn’t a god. Just be a nice person and you’ll be fine.

      • allidoislietomyself@lemmy.world
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        This is not true at all. That is why agnostic and atheist are two separate words with two separate meanings. I agree with the be a nice person part though.

      • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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        I’m agnostic. Definitely not a closet atheist. I actually talk about God with my closest and most catholic friend regularly

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        I used to call myself an atheist but switched to agnostic since I don’t know for certain. My agnostic belief in a higher power is NOT the judgemental rule writing god of scripture. More of a default reason for enexplainable things in our universe. As science progresses there are less things where the higher power is needed.

        But that’s just me.

        I always told my parents when they were disappointed in me for ditching the “Faith”: I may be a bad Jew but I make every effort to be a good person.

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        I think we can be for sure, religious skeptic is an equally ridiculous term. It’s like saying I’m a teacup-around-Saturn skeptic. In any reasonable meaning of the word “certain”, “truth”, or “sure”, the teacup and any deity do not exist nor play any role in our lives. They deserve no consideration except for niche discussions in philosophy and epistemology. We should use the teacup example even in that case, not the deity one.

  • Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    If the word “skeptic” in the title actually meant that, this would be a good thing. It’s good to be skeptic about everything until you’re shown evidence. The problem here is that those folks aren’t really skeptic.

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      16 hours ago

      People decide to believe something and then look for evidence

      Like or not that’s the human thing to do. Breaking out of that mindset is hard.

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      Yeah, he’s a liar, not a skeptic. He’s denying evidence, not demanding it.

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      Hard to accept a “skeptic” in a field with overwhelming evidence that he’s wrong. It means he either doesn’t or refuses to understand the current data which makes him just a dummy not a skeptic

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    “You’ll never believe it, Mr Kennedy. According to our data, vaccines causes cancer”, he says, smiling. “Once we increased our vaccination rates, cancer became a major cause of death within 15 years. I suspect that far fewer people will die of cancer, if we simply roll our policies back

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      And more people will die of polio, measles, mumps, and other preventable diseases BEFORE they have the chance to die from cancer!

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      And we also discovered everyone who drinks water, has died some point in their life. We must take all the water from the people and give them to corporations so they can protect us.

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      “Name one person that died of cancer who never received a vaccine for anything. That’s what I thought!”