GAN

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Best regards! Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:15, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Cycling 2018

Hi Gan. For this new year, we now have a page to list the races we create items and articles : Wikidata:WikiProject Cycling/2018 races. It should be more easy for you to add statements or translations. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 19:57, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Races without instance of (P31)

I see that you have added several races without specifying any instance of (P31). Could you please in the future add a suitable type? Thanks. Laboramus (talk) 23:01, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

• @Laboramus:, а можно ещё раз, но на русском? Если правильно понял то речь идёт о профиле этапов многодневных гонок? — GAN (talk) 23:51, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
• Да, конечно. Я попросил указывать instance of (P31) в тех элементах, которые вы добавляете - см. например https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q43083954&diff=615454063&oldid=593368279. Без этого, непонятно, что именно этот элемент должен описывать. Если вы не можете подобрать нужный тип, вы можете посоветоваться с другими участниками, например, в Wikidata:Форум или создать новый тип. Создание множества элементов без типа затрудняет дальнейшую работу с этими данными. Laboramus (talk) 23:59, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

• • Букв много.
• В многодневных велогонках в пункте "instance of (P31)" указывается профиль этапа. А в пункте "part of (P361)" указывается гонка за конкретный год этапом которой он является. Пример Тур де Франс 2018, 1-й этап

Вот тут Wikidata:WikiProject Cycling/Kit to translate в частности можно посмотреть названия всех профилей этапов. Они расположены под третьей  •

• В пункте "has part(s) (P527)":

- на странице гонки за конкретный год указываются страницы с её этапами. Пример Тур де Франс 2018

- на основной странице гонке указываются все выпуски этой гонки по годам. Пример Тур де Франс

Всё это завязано на Module:Cycling race. Страница в ru-wiki ru:Модуль:Cycling race. Данный модуль устроен так, что для начала отображения (функционирования) различных его таблиц в статье обязательно нужно указывать только ряд параметров. Модуль этот един для всех Wiki и отличается только небольшими отличиями во внешнем виде. Его автор если не ошибаюсь User:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick

Конкретно для этапов "Тиррено - Адриатико 1980" я данные брал из fr:Tirreno-Adriatico 1980 где профиль указан только для двух этапов (буквы "clm" в скобочках). В итоге получилась табличка в разделе "Маршрут" на ru:Тиррено — Адриатико 1980, где значок как раз и отображает данные из P31. Для начала отображения данный таблицы достаточно указать point in time (P585) и series ordinal (P1545) на странице этапа, а также сами этапы на странице гонки за год в P527

В ru-wiki любителей велоспорта считанное количество. В Wikidata подробно сделаны гонки максимум с 2015 года. И то значимые. Некоторое время назад можно было создавать тут новый элемент на основе существующей в какой-либо Wiki статьи, который автоматом вносил несколько значений. Но теперь не нахожу данной возможности. Я вношу все данные в ручном режиме. Поэтому если попадается мало-мальски начатое тут описание гонки, то довожу его до необходимого минимума позволяющего модулю создавать таблицы в ru-wiki.

И попутно вопрос. По наличию у тебя ботов я полагаю разбираешься в Lua? Мне нужно один модуль из fr-wiki в ru-wiki перенести.

— GAN (talk) 01:11, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi. I don't understand russian, but if it is the question, there is always one and only one way to fill Wikidata for the reason datas are reused in different Wikipedias with an algorithm. On Module:Cycling race we have documentation for stages : Wikidata:WikiProject Cycling/Documentation/stageinfobox. It is written in French, but it is translatable and items quoted have values in Russian. For the item of a stage, instance of (P31) is the type of the stage, if we don't know the type, we write just round (Q18131152) (with the idea that a day, with a partnership, we could have access to old race book). Here, part of (P361) is the edition 1980 of the race. In case of problem, you can contact me. Try a second time if I don't respond, it can be because I don't see the notification. And : happy new year. Take pleasure when you contribute it is the most important. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 19:03, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

• @Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick: But we all have a great friend "Google translator". In ru-wiki there are not many fans of cycling, and there are a lot of races. I fill only the necessary minimum data on cycling so that I can use Module:Cycling race. Is there a similar gadget in the fr-wiki that allows you to transfer data from the article to the Wikidata, filling certain values like this ru:Википедия:Гаджеты/Экспорт в Викиданные? To be able to take data for example from a card fr:Descriptif course cycliste — GAN (talk) 00:04, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

I know that French users sometimes use gadgets to transfer datas. On my side, I do all by hand except the use of nameGuzzler to add names in latin languages. I have the time because we are more numerous. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 10:08, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Прямой/косвенный порядок в русских названиях

[1] Где-то есть требования, чтобы устанавливался именно косвенный порядок? Этот пережиток времён БСЭ технически желателен для русскоязычных названий, или вы просто считаете что так лучше? С уважением. --Wolverène (talk) 20:47, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

• @Wolverène: В велостатьях активно используем ru:Модуль:Cycling race берущий данные из Wikidata. Одна из его особенностей это использование в большинстве, если не во всех, случаев названий статей из ru-Wiki при их наличии, которые у нас названы "Фамилия, Имя". Если статьи нету берётся основное название из Wikdata. Поэтому чтобы не было разношёрстного отображения в таблицах велогонщиков тут называем аналогично. В примере все красные ссылки это названия с Wikidata. А так как у гонщика может быть указано несколько вариантов написания как его зовут, такой вариант написания ещё удобен и при поиске по фамилии. — GAN (talk) 21:14, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Хорошо, спасибо. --Wolverène (talk) 21:45, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Johan Svensson

There is no article in any Wikipedia on a cyclist named Johan Svensson; whether this person is mentioned on some website or not, they are non-notable, and it is problematic to include them. If you disagree, please create a Wikipedia article on the person - the link as it stands only causes errors in Wikipedia. BD2412 (talk) 13:41, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

I have written him up, see w:Johan Svensson (cyclist). That particular problem seems to have been solved.

However, the problem caused by José Varela in Q28057330 (who I wrote up five hours ago as w:José Varela (cyclist)) has not.

"On the contrary, these modules create a lot of good conveniences for the Vicki language sections in which there are few authors who love cycling, allowing them to jointly create articles together with different lists and tables for articles about races and teams in different languages."

Oh no they don't! Not if they create bad links for Wikipedia readers and near-insoluble problems for Wikipedia editors, they don't. Are you familiar with the English expression, "You're having a laugh"? It is not a compliment.

I will be following José Varela's progress in the Grand Tours, if he ever gets to ride in one. Narky Blert (talk) 00:21, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Andy Schleck

Please, please stop changing picture preferences, otherwise this ugly portrait is shown in infoboxes, also its mor intresting to show a sportsman in action, than to have an ugly portait without colours and contrast. --Les Meloures (talk) 11:26, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

• @Les Meloures: On the photogoraphy "in motion" the image of a person's face is less informative. As a result, the card (infobox) which should give the basic information about the person will give it in a smaller volume as it is impossible to clearly represent the person described in the article in the photo. To do this, you will need to additionally place a second photo, and in articles with a small amount of text this will not look very good. Most photos for the infobox just represent a more distinct image of a person by which it can be recognized. I can offer you two such images: foto-1, foto-1 and foto-2. — GAN (talk) 13:02, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Its not only the sportsman face that is important, but the whole shape.

But after 12 years on Wiki I'am tired of such discussions and I will put it manually in the article's box and if other want to have this ugly portait of Andy so they can do. Best regards --Les Meloures (talk) 13:28, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Q36689657

Hey GAN, I just found Q36689657 which was created by you. What’s the purpose? Did you mean to create a property instead of an item? Cheers, —MisterSynergy (talk) 17:48, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Looks like there is already mountains classification (P4320). Is that what you wanted to have? —MisterSynergy (talk) 18:01, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Bicycle race

@Repf72: All dates from http://www.cyclingarchives.com/ I suggest that you first remove all point in time (P585) races, and then add it again. Not to delete in some races only a year without a date.

@Repf72: Posted by "Q" and date for Gent–Wevelgem. Some years have two pages each. — GAN (talk) 18:33, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

@GAN: Yes. I delete dates to add new ones, but in some reces forgot it, but are fixed. With supplied dates. It will be fast. Repf72 (talk) 18:47, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

For "Gent–Wevelgem" could you check duplicated items and merge if convenient or simple unlink extra elements to eliminate duplicated items? Repf72 (talk) 03:41, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

@Repf72: I cleaned the women and the young. There you need about 40 races to unite (until 1979). The best way is to copy the list to Excel and remove the unnecessary lines there.— GAN (talk) 10:08, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Not merged or not unlinked elements will continuing adding noise to queries. I merged 4 elements for E3 Harelbeke, before datafill.Repf72 (talk) 13:35, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Omloop Het Nieuwsblad 71 editions datafiled, but current edition is 73, do you have some link about explication of missed editions? Repf72 (talk) 15:32, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

@Repf72: I combined all the paired pages of "Gent–Wevelgem". Omlup was not conducted in 1960, 1986, and 2004. Perhaps because of this failure in the numbering. — GAN (talk) 15:48, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_Het_Volk_2007

in text - №63

in the card - №62

in order - №60

http://www.cyclingarchives.com/wedstrijdfiche.php?wedstrijdid=347 The text in the frame at the top is probably helpful. I read and write with the help of an interpreter. :)

Omloop Het Nieuwsblad: 3 skipping points for 2 editions. Well I change numbering skipping just 1986 and 2004, but it is a pendient issue to reference the numbering. Repf72 (talk) 16:32, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

EuroEyes Cyclassics

1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018	25-08-1996 10-08-1997 15-08-1998 15-08-1999 06-08-2000 19-08-2001 04-08-2002 03-08-2003 01-08-2004 31-07-2005 30-07-2006 19-08-2007 07-09-2008 16-08-2009 15-08-2010 21-08-2011 19-08-2012 25-08-2013 24-08-2014 23-08-2015 21-08-2016 20-08-2017 19-08-2018

Omloop Het Nieuwsblad

1945 1946 1947 1948 1949 1950 1951 1952 1953 1954 1955 1956 1957 1958 1959 1961 1962 1963 1964 1965 1966 1967 1968 1969 1970 1971 1972 1973 1974 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980 1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1987 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018

25-03-1945 17-03-1946 23-03-1947 17-03-1948 13-03-1949 05-03-1950 11-03-1951 09-03-1952 08-03-1953 14-03-1954 06-03-1955 11-03-1956 24-03-1957 07-04-1958 05-04-1959 04-03-1961 10-03-1962 02-03-1963 29-02-1964 02-03-1965 05-03-1966 04-03-1967 02-03-1968 01-03-1969 28-02-1970 25-03-1971 02-03-1972 03-03-1973 02-03-1974 01-03-1975 03-03-1976 05-03-1977 04-03-1978 03-03-1979 01-03-1980 28-02-1981 06-03-1982 05-03-1983 03-03-1984 02-03-1985 28-02-1987 05-03-1988 04-03-1989 03-03-1990 02-03-1991 29-02-1992 27-02-1993 26-02-1994 25-02-1995 02-03-1996 01-03-1997 28-02-1998 27-02-1999 26-02-2000 03-03-2001 02-03-2002 01-03-2003 26-02-2005 25-02-2006 03-03-2007 01-03-2008 28-02-2009 27-02-2010 26-02-2011 25-02-2012 23-02-2013 01-03-2014 28-02-2015 27-02-2016 25-02-2017 24-02-2018

Giro di Lombardia

13-10-2018 12-11-1905 11-11-1906 03-11-1907 08-11-1908 07-11-1909 06-11-1910 02-11-1911 27-10-1912 02-11-1913 25-10-1914 07-11-1915 05-11-1916 04-11-1917 04-11-1918 02-11-1919 09-11-1920 10-11-1921 05-11-1922 27-10-1923 09-11-1924 04-11-1925 31-10-1926 30-10-1927 03-11-1928 26-10-1929 26-10-1930 25-10-1931 23-10-1932 15-10-1933 21-10-1934 20-10-1935 08-11-1936 23-10-1937 23-10-1938 23-10-1939 27-10-1940 19-10-1941 17-10-1942 21-10-1945 27-10-1946 26-10-1947 24-10-1948 23-10-1949 22-10-1950 21-10-1951 26-10-1952 25-10-1953 31-10-1954 23-10-1955 21-10-1956 20-10-1957 19-10-1958 18-10-1959 16-10-1960 21-10-1961 20-10-1962 19-10-1963 17-10-1964 16-10-1965 22-10-1966 21-10-1967 12-10-1968 11-10-1969 10-10-1970 09-10-1971 07-10-1972 13-10-1973 12-10-1974 11-10-1975 09-10-1976 08-10-1977 07-10-1978 13-10-1979 18-10-1980 17-10-1981 16-10-1982 15-10-1983 13-10-1984 12-10-1985 18-10-1986 17-10-1987 15-10-1988 14-10-1989 20-10-1990 19-10-1991 17-10-1992 09-10-1993 08-10-1994 21-10-1995 19-10-1996 18-10-1997 17-10-1998 16-10-1999 21-10-2000 20-10-2001 19-10-2002 18-10-2003 16-10-2004 15-10-2005 14-10-2006 20-10-2007 18-10-2008 17-10-2009 16-10-2010 15-10-2011 29-09-2012 06-10-2013 05-10-2014 04-10-2015 01-10-2016 07-10-2017

Amstel Gold Race

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Q1898106 Q2733675 Q2256071 Q980213 Q634547 Q2137919 Q2755090 Q936387 Q2508419 Q2486046 Q2488680 Q1116673 Q2410375 Q2485872 Q1112857 Q2246770 Q2007239 Q2246421 Q640315 Q1982365 Q2237436 Q2246410 Q2246395 Q2246382 Q2246431 Q2009104 Q1942634 Q899208 Q899106 Q937628 Q633532 Q899220 Q899211 Q899100 Q975746 Q2246353 Q2246143 Q681108 Q739256 Q2470396 Q368580 Q1071292 Q1062149 Q638951 Q1025199 Q917389 Q247581 Q4307374 Q15869951 Q18890149 Q20169711 Q27865341 Q51678681	1966 1967 1968 1969 1970 1971 1972 1973 1974 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980 1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018	30-04-1966 15-04-1967 21-09-1968 18-04-1969 25-04-1970 28-03-1971 26-03-1972 07-04-1973 13-04-1974 29-03-1975 27-03-1976 09-04-1977 25-03-1978 14-04-1979 05-04-1980 02-04-1981 24-04-1982 21-04-1983 21-04-1984 27-04-1985 26-04-1986 25-04-1987 23-04-1988 22-04-1989 21-04-1990 27-04-1991 25-04-1992 24-04-1993 23-04-1994 22-04-1995 27-04-1996 26-04-1997 25-04-1998 24-04-1999 22-04-2000 28-04-2001 28-04-2002 20-04-2003 18-04-2004 17-04-2005 16-04-2006 22-04-2007 20-04-2008 19-04-2009 18-04-2010 17-04-2011 15-04-2012 14-04-2013 20-04-2014 19-04-2015 17-04-2016 16-04-2017 15-04-2018

Gent–Wevelgem

Some years have two pages each

Year	Q		------------------	Year	Date
1934 1935 1936 1937 1938 1939 1945 1946 1947 1948 1949 1950 1951 1952 1953 1954 1955 1956 1957 1958 1959 1960 1961 1962 1963 1964 1965 1966 1967 1968 1969 1970 1971 1972 1973 1974 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980 1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018	Q27867756 Q27867757 Q27867758 Q27867759 Q27867760 Q27867761 Q27867769 Q27867770 Q27867771 Q27867772 Q27867773 Q27867787 Q27867788 Q27867789 Q27867790 Q27867791 Q27867792 Q27867793 Q27867794 Q27867795 Q27867796 Q27533888 Q27533889 Q27533890 Q27533891 Q27533893 Q27533894 Q19622233 Q27533895 Q27533896 Q27533899 Q27533753 Q27533755 Q27533756 Q27506353 Q25055819 Q27506354 Q27533757 Q27533759 Q27533760 Q27506804 Q27506806 Q27506807 Q27533503 Q27533508 Q27533512 Q27533517 Q27533522 Q27533526 Q27533531 Q3758043 Q3758045 Q3758044 Q3758046 Q3758047 Q3758049 Q3758050 Q3758051 Q3758053 Q3095076 Q924767 Q3758054 Q3758055 Q3758057 Q3373955 Q3374030 Q2436493 Q776962 Q2436502 Q520906 Q2349229 Q667413 Q674847 Q573390 Q4307351 Q15402106 Q18710421 Q21950739 Q27864124 Q47008063	1934 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867756) 1935 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867757) 1936 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867758) 1937 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867759) 1938 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867760) 1939 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867761) 1945 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867769) 1946 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867770) 1947 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867771) 1948 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867772) 1949 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867773) 1950 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867787) 1951 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867788) 1952 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867789) 1953 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867790) 1954 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867791) 1955 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867792) 1956 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867793) 1957 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867794) 1958 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867795) 1959 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27867796) 1960 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533888) 1961 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533889) 1962 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533890) 1963 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533891) 1964 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533893) 1965 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533894) 1966 Gent–Wevelgem (Q19622233) 1967 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533895) 1968 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533896) 1969 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533899) 1970 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533753) 1971 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533755) 1972 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533756) 1973 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27506353) 1974 Gent–Wevelgem (Q25055819) 1975 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27506354) 1976 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533757) 1977 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533759) 1978 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533760) 1979 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27506804) 1980 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27506806) 1981 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27506807) 1982 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533503) 1983 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533508) 1984 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533512) 1985 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533517) 1986 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533522) 1987 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533526) 1988 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27533531) 1989 Gent–Wevelgem (Q3758043) 1990 Gent–Wevelgem (Q3758045) 1991 Gent–Wevelgem (Q3758044) 1992 Gent–Wevelgem (Q3758046) 1993 Gent–Wevelgem (Q3758047) 1994 Gent–Wevelgem (Q3758049) 1995 Gent–Wevelgem (Q3758050) 1996 Gent–Wevelgem (Q3758051) 1997 Gent–Wevelgem (Q3758053) 1998 Gent–Wevelgem (Q3095076) 1999 Gent–Wevelgem (Q924767) 2000 Gent–Wevelgem (Q3758054) 2001 Gent–Wevelgem (Q3758055) 2002 Gent–Wevelgem (Q3758057) 2003 Gent–Wevelgem (Q3373955) 2004 Gent–Wevelgem (Q3374030) 2005 Gent–Wevelgem (Q2436493) 2006 Gent–Wevelgem (Q776962) 2007 Gent–Wevelgem (Q2436502) 2008 Gent–Wevelgem (Q520906) 2009 Gent–Wevelgem (Q2349229) 2010 Gent–Wevelgem (Q667413) 2011 Gent–Wevelgem (Q674847) 2012 Gent–Wevelgem (Q573390) 2013 Gent–Wevelgem (Q4307351) 2014 Gent–Wevelgem (Q15402106) 2015 Gent–Wevelgem (Q18710421) 2016 Gent–Wevelgem (Q21950739) 2017 Gent–Wevelgem (Q27864124) 2018 Gent–Wevelgem (Q47008063)	1934 1935 1936 1937 1938 1939 1945 1946 1947 1948 1949 1950 1951 1952 1953 1954 1955 1956 1957 1958 1959 1960 1961 1962 1963 1964 1965 1966 1967 1968 1969 1970 1971 1972 1973 1974 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980 1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018	09-09-1934 30-06-1935 28-05-1936 13-05-1937 02-06-1938 24-05-1939 29-07-1945 16-05-1946 30-03-1947 09-05-1948 03-04-1949 26-03-1950 25-03-1951 03-04-1952 29-03-1953 28-03-1954 03-04-1955 25-03-1956 23-03-1957 06-04-1958 04-04-1959 17-04-1960 16-04-1961 25-03-1962 24-03-1963 22-03-1964 21-03-1965 23-03-1966 29-03-1967 16-04-1968 16-04-1969 01-04-1970 31-03-1971 12-04-1972 03-04-1973 02-04-1974 09-04-1975 06-04-1976 19-04-1977 12-04-1978 04-04-1979 02-04-1980 08-04-1981 07-04-1982 06-04-1983 04-04-1984 10-04-1985 09-04-1986 08-04-1987 20-04-1988 05-04-1989 04-04-1990 10-04-1991 08-04-1992 07-04-1993 06-04-1994 05-04-1995 10-04-1996 09-04-1997 08-04-1998 07-04-1999 05-04-2000 11-04-2001 10-04-2002 09-04-2003 07-04-2004 06-04-2005 05-04-2006 11-04-2007 09-04-2008 08-04-2009 28-03-2010 27-03-2011 25-03-2012 24-03-2013 30-03-2014 29-03-2015 27-03-2016 26-03-2017 25-03-2018

Clásica de San Sebastián

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1981 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q10989240) 1982 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q11914342) 1983 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q11914340) 1984 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q11914339) 1985 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q11914345) 1986 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q11914348) 1987 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q11914344) 1988 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q11914347) 1989 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q3681727) 1990 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q933420) 1991 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q656929) 1992 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q3681728) 1993 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q3681730) 1994 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q1115480) 1995 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q3681731) 1996 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q3681733) 1997 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q388044) 1998 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q1998374) 1999 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q1998669) 2000 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q1027928) 2001 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q737429) 2002 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q1027923) 2003 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q2462495) 2004 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q2442304) 2005 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q628756) 2006 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q775001) 2007 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q2220093) 2008 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q2073380) 2009 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q632929) 2010 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q289621) 2011 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q1813483) 2012 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q2269704) 2013 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q11270941) 2014 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q17420039) 2015 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q18890259) 2016 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q20738971) 2017 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q27864150) 2018 Clásica de San Sebastián (Q52386025)	Q10989240 Q11914342 Q11914340 Q11914339 Q11914345 Q11914348 Q11914344 Q11914347 Q3681727 Q933420 Q656929 Q3681728 Q3681730 Q1115480 Q3681731 Q3681733 Q388044 Q1998374 Q1998669 Q1027928 Q737429 Q1027923 Q2462495 Q2442304 Q628756 Q775001 Q2220093 Q2073380 Q632929 Q289621 Q1813483 Q2269704 Q11270941 Q17420039 Q18890259 Q20738971 Q27864150 Q52386025	1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018	11-08-1981 12-08-1982 17-08-1983 16-08-1984 16-08-1985 13-08-1986 12-08-1987 13-08-1988 12-08-1989 11-08-1990 10-08-1991 08-08-1992 07-08-1993 06-08-1994 12-08-1995 10-08-1996 09-08-1997 08-08-1998 07-08-1999 12-08-2000 11-08-2001 10-08-2002 09-08-2003 07-08-2004 13-08-2005 12-08-2006 04-08-2007 02-08-2008 01-08-2009 31-07-2010 30-07-2011 14-08-2012 27-07-2013 02-08-2014 01-08-2015 30-07-2016 29-07-2017 04-08-2018

E3 Harelbeke

------------------	Q	Year	Date
1958 E3 Harelbeke (Q2204042) 1959 E3 Harelbeke (Q2184941) 1960 E3 Harelbeke (Q2095519) 1961 E3 Harelbeke (Q2548859) 1962 E3 Harelbeke (Q2402322) 1963 E3 Harelbeke (Q2679132) 1964 E3 Harelbeke (Q2108995) 1965 E3 Harelbeke (Q2242939) 1966 E3 Harelbeke (Q3201323) 1967 E3 Harelbeke (Q1837600) 1968 E3 Harelbeke (Q2277132) 1969 E3 Harelbeke (Q13575006) 1970 E3 Harelbeke (Q2190926) 1971 E3 Harelbeke (Q5304894) 1972 E3 Harelbeke (Q2273912) 1973 E3 Harelbeke (Q1988866) 1974 E3 Harelbeke (Q2131120) 1975 E3 Harelbeke (Q2226214) 1976 E3 Harelbeke (Q15874705) 1977 E3 Harelbeke (Q15874706) 1978 E3 Harelbeke (Q15874707) 1979 E3 Harelbeke (Q15874708) 1980 E3 Harelbeke (Q15874709) 1981 E3 Harelbeke (Q18058458) 1982 E3 Harelbeke (Q34120034) 1983 E3 Harelbeke (Q48843195) 1983 E3 Harelbeke (Q34120051) 1984 E3 Harelbeke (Q30141657) 1985 E3 Harelbeke (Q30140844) 1986 E3 Harelbeke (Q30140845) 1987 E3 Harelbeke (Q30141656) 1988 E3 Harelbeke (Q48843203) 1988 E3 Harelbeke (Q30141613) 1989 E3 Harelbeke (Q48843206) 1989 E3 Harelbeke (Q29867645) 1990 E3 Harelbeke (Q29867646) 1991 E3 Harelbeke (Q29843758) 1992 E3 Harelbeke (Q29843756) 1993 E3 Harelbeke (Q29652298) 1994 E3 Harelbeke (Q29652296) 1995 E3 Harelbeke (Q29652295) 1996 E3 Harelbeke (Q29652294) 1997 E3 Harelbeke (Q29633003) 1998 E3 Harelbeke (Q29633001) 1999 E3 Harelbeke (Q29633000) 2000 E3 Harelbeke (Q3717111) 2001 E3 Harelbeke (Q3717113) 2002 E3 Harelbeke (Q3717112) 2003 E3 Harelbeke (Q3717114) 2004 E3 Harelbeke (Q3717115) 2005 E3 Harelbeke (Q3717116) 2006 E3 Harelbeke (Q14850408) 2007 E3 Harelbeke (Q3717119) 2008 E3 Harelbeke (Q3717120) 2009 E3 Harelbeke (Q3717121) 2010 E3 Harelbeke (Q3462780) 2011 E3 Harelbeke (Q3717110) 2012 E3 Harelbeke (Q764681) 2013 E3 Harelbeke (Q4307362) 2014 E3 Harelbeke (Q15874711) 2015 E3 Harelbeke (Q18710420) 2015 E3 Harelbeke (Q21162123) 2016 E3 Harelbeke (Q21528764) 2017 E3 Harelbeke (Q27503706) 2018 E3 Harelbeke (Q47008047)	Q2204042 Q2184941 Q2095519 Q2548859 Q2402322 Q2679132 Q2108995 Q2242939 Q3201323 Q1837600 Q2277132 Q13575006 Q2190926 Q5304894 Q2273912 Q1988866 Q2131120 Q2226214 Q15874705 Q15874706 Q15874707 Q15874708 Q15874709 Q18058458 Q34120034 Q48843195 Q34120051 Q30141657 Q30140844 Q30140845 Q30141656 Q48843203 Q30141613 Q48843206 Q29867645 Q29867646 Q29843758 Q29843756 Q29652298 Q29652296 Q29652295 Q29652294 Q29633003 Q29633001 Q29633000 Q3717111 Q3717113 Q3717112 Q3717114 Q3717115 Q3717116 Q14850408 Q3717119 Q3717120 Q3717121 Q3462780 Q3717110 Q764681 Q4307362 Q15874711 Q18710420 Q21162123 Q21528764 Q27503706 Q47008047	1958 1959 1960 1961 1962 1963 1964 1965 1966 1967 1968 1969 1970 1971 1972 1973 1974 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980 1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018	03-05-1958 17-05-1959 12-03-1960 11-03-1961 17-03-1962 16-03-1963 14-03-1964 27-03-1965 26-03-1966 25-03-1967 23-03-1968 22-03-1969 21-03-1970 27-03-1971 25-03-1972 24-03-1973 23-03-1974 22-03-1975 20-03-1976 26-03-1977 01-04-1978 24-03-1979 22-03-1980 28-03-1981 27-03-1982 26-03-1983 24-03-1984 30-03-1985 22-03-1986 26-03-1987 26-03-1988 25-03-1989 24-03-1990 30-03-1991 28-03-1992 27-03-1993 26-03-1994 25-03-1995 30-03-1996 29-03-1997 28-03-1998 27-03-1999 25-03-2000 31-03-2001 30-03-2002 29-03-2003 27-03-2004 26-03-2005 25-03-2006 31-03-2007 29-03-2008 28-03-2009 27-03-2010 26-03-2011 23-03-2012 22-03-2013 28-03-2014 27-03-2015 25-03-2016 24-03-2017 23-03-2018

La Flèche Wallonne

------------------	Q	Year	Date
1936 La Flèche Wallonne (Q20107659) 1937 La Flèche Wallonne (Q20107660) 1938 La Flèche Wallonne (Q20107662) 1939 La Flèche Wallonne (Q20107663) 1941 La Flèche Wallonne (Q20107664) 1942 La Flèche Wallonne (Q20107665) 1943 La Flèche Wallonne (Q20107666) 1944 La Flèche Wallonne (Q20107667) 1945 La Flèche Wallonne (Q20107668) 1946 La Flèche Wallonne (Q20107669) 1947 La Flèche Wallonne (Q20107670) 1948 La Flèche Wallonne (Q20107671) 1949 La Flèche Wallonne (Q20107672) 1950 La Flèche Wallonne (Q20107673) 1951 La Flèche Wallonne (Q23501948) 1952 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30899380) 1953 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30899342) 1954 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30899311) 1955 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30899285) 1956 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30532259) 1957 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30526507) 1958 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30509759) 1959 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30458816) 1960 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30349206) 1961 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30345549) 1962 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30339256) 1963 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30337494) 1964 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30332750) 1965 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30329316) 1966 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30321748) 1967 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30318534) 1968 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30232116) 1969 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30224548) 1970 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30224307) 1971 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30182221) 1972 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30179032) 1973 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30178795) 1974 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30160653) 1975 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30150655) 1976 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30148403) 1977 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30143308) 1978 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30135503) 1979 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30127584) 1980 La Flèche Wallonne (Q3486951) 1981 La Flèche Wallonne (Q4548926) 1982 La Flèche Wallonne (Q3152783) 1983 La Flèche Wallonne (Q30116415) 1984 La Flèche Wallonne (Q29456413) 1985 La Flèche Wallonne (Q5003459) 1986 La Flèche Wallonne (Q2521125) 1987 La Flèche Wallonne (Q4376552) 1988 La Flèche Wallonne (Q2647279) 1989 La Flèche Wallonne (Q2184870) 1990 La Flèche Wallonne (Q1915592) 1991 La Flèche Wallonne (Q3752569) 1992 La Flèche Wallonne (Q3752568) 1993 La Flèche Wallonne (Q3752570) 1994 La Flèche Wallonne (Q3752571) 1995 La Flèche Wallonne (Q3752572) 1996 La Flèche Wallonne (Q2514075) 1997 La Flèche Wallonne (Q2779769) 1998 La Flèche Wallonne (Q1117349) 1999 La Flèche Wallonne (Q3074685) 2000 La Flèche Wallonne (Q2846372) 2001 La Flèche Wallonne (Q2322051) 2002 La Flèche Wallonne (Q10949486) 2003 La Flèche Wallonne (Q3074684) 2004 La Flèche Wallonne (Q3074687) 2005 La Flèche Wallonne (Q2260048) 2006 La Flèche Wallonne (Q2248708) 2007 La Flèche Wallonne (Q927615) 2008 La Flèche Wallonne (Q2559829) 2009 La Flèche Wallonne (Q2101146) 2010 La Flèche Wallonne (Q1065606) 2011 La Flèche Wallonne (Q917140) 2012 La Flèche Wallonne (Q938033) 2013 La Flèche Wallonne (Q3074691) 2014 La Flèche Wallonne (Q15883647) 2015 La Flèche Wallonne (Q19361204) 2016 La Flèche Wallonne (Q20033471) 2017 La Flèche Wallonne (Q27865325) 2018 La Flèche Wallonne (Q51879254)	Q20107659 Q20107660 Q20107662 Q20107663 Q20107664 Q20107665 Q20107666 Q20107667 Q20107668 Q20107669 Q20107670 Q20107671 Q20107672 Q20107673 Q23501948 Q30899380 Q30899342 Q30899311 Q30899285 Q30532259 Q30526507 Q30509759 Q30458816 Q30349206 Q30345549 Q30339256 Q30337494 Q30332750 Q30329316 Q30321748 Q30318534 Q30232116 Q30224548 Q30224307 Q30182221 Q30179032 Q30178795 Q30160653 Q30150655 Q30148403 Q30143308 Q30135503 Q30127584 Q3486951 Q4548926 Q3152783 Q30116415 Q29456413 Q5003459 Q2521125 Q4376552 Q2647279 Q2184870 Q1915592 Q3752569 Q3752568 Q3752570 Q3752571 Q3752572 Q2514075 Q2779769 Q1117349 Q3074685 Q2846372 Q2322051 Q10949486 Q3074684 Q3074687 Q2260048 Q2248708 Q927615 Q2559829 Q2101146 Q1065606 Q917140 Q938033 Q3074691 Q15883647 Q19361204 Q20033471 Q27865325 Q51879254	1936 1937 1938 1939 1941 1942 1943 1944 1945 1946 1947 1948 1949 1950 1951 1952 1953 1954 1955 1956 1957 1958 1959 1960 1961 1962 1963 1964 1965 1966 1967 1968 1969 1970 1971 1972 1973 1974 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980 1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018	13-04-1936 02-05-1937 01-05-1938 18-06-1939 13-07-1941 19-07-1942 23-05-1943 14-05-1944 03-06-1945 09-06-1946 05-06-1947 21-04-1948 13-04-1949 01-05-1950 21-04-1951 10-05-1952 02-05-1953 08-05-1954 30-04-1955 05-05-1956 04-05-1957 26-04-1958 25-04-1959 09-05-1960 16-05-1961 07-05-1962 06-05-1963 04-05-1964 29-04-1965 29-04-1966 28-04-1967 21-04-1968 20-04-1969 19-04-1970 22-04-1971 23-04-1972 19-04-1973 11-04-1974 17-04-1975 15-04-1976 07-04-1977 20-04-1978 10-04-1979 17-04-1980 17-04-1981 15-04-1982 14-04-1983 12-04-1984 17-04-1985 16-04-1986 15-04-1987 13-04-1988 12-04-1989 11-04-1990 17-04-1991 15-04-1992 14-04-1993 20-04-1994 12-04-1995 17-04-1996 16-04-1997 15-04-1998 14-04-1999 12-04-2000 18-04-2001 17-04-2002 23-04-2003 21-04-2004 20-04-2005 19-04-2006 25-04-2007 23-04-2008 22-04-2009 21-04-2010 20-04-2011 18-04-2012 17-04-2013 23-04-2014 22-04-2015 20-04-2016 19-04-2017 18-04-2018

Sunweb Development 2018

Bonjour, Sunweb Development est une équipe continentale, Sunweb Development 2018 est une saison d'équipe (et donc en aucun cas une équipe). Merci. Mith (talk) 12:40, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

• @Mith: Watch similar seasons from other teams. In this case, the parameter "continental team" shows the status of the team in the specified season / year and is necessary for the correct placement of the command by the template https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Cycling_race/listofteams More details can be found in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Module_talk:Cycling_race — GAN (talk) 12:59, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

P527

If you want to re-order P527 (as you did at Q510854) you can send before an quick statements deleting all P527 elements and then you can send again programming.

To delete just use "-" before Qxxxx.

Delete script

-QxxxRace P527 QxxxEdition

-QxxxRace P527 QxxxEdition

-QxxxRace P527 QxxxEdition

Re add script

QxxxRace P527 QxxxEdition

QxxxRace P527 QxxxEdition

QxxxRace P527 QxxxEdition

Any doubt read Help:QuickStatements

Bye.Repf72 (talk) 19:14, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

• @Repf72: Muchas gracias. I am sometimes much easier to understand with examples than to look for in a manual due to my level of knowledge of foreign languages. Made all winners for d:Q157475 — GAN (talk) 22:15, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Cyclist creation

Excellent you are using quick statements. Please be aware that you should use date of birth (P569) to datafill "date of birth" instead of point in time (P585) as you did for Danny Neskens (Q57780350) and Roger Verheyden (Q57780349).

It is demanding but it is necessary check if rider name exist with some name variation before create it. For example you create Karel De Baere (Q57416498) but exits Karel De Baere (Q3193060) and also 2018 Grand Prix de Plumelec-Morbihan (Q57780342), but there is Jean Patou (Q16066922) (some palmares uses Jules and some Jean). To avoid duplications I always verify checking palmares in other wikis (sometimes I catch name with son little variation), I also check in internet and finally I check palmares at Cycling Archives or Procyclingstats fo find name variations and check if they exist at Wikidata. Regards Repf72 (talk) 01:52, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

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URL's

Hi! What's a point with adding links like this? This info is already sourced with PCS raceid and there's no point in adding another source for such easily verifible info. Moreover adding these URL's makes a terrible effect on other Wiki's using module:cycling (check for example how pl:Dookoła Rumunii looks now after adding that one... 99kerob (talk) 13:26, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

• @99kerob: At the same time, the site memoire-du-cyclisme (which is very often used as a source) for 2010 indicates another winner (before disqualification). So, in this case, the link is quite logical. About the module. Here are some tables in Excel to add through https://quickstatements.toolforge.org/#/batch — GAN (talk) 14:23, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Q62124054

Hi! As I can see you can write in cyryllic. Could you identify a cyclist who was second in 1986 Okolo Slovenska? He is added as Gennadij Alexasis but I guess that it isn't a correct version as I couldn't find anyone who was named like this - probably his surname looked a little different, maybe you can find him? 99kerob (talk) 14:48, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

• @99kerob: My native Russian language. I have not found anywhere except http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.eu/etapes/eta_td_slovaquie.php who finished second in 1986. I also looked in Russian-language sources - I did not find anything about the racer or about the 1986 race.

https://www.okoloslovenska.com/en/news/who-will-join-the-famous-winners-in-the-58-year-old-history-of-the-race - There is a file with winners in the page code, but it is not displayed for me.

https://firstcycling.com/race.php?r=380 - All winners except this one

— GAN (talk) 14:32, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer. As I am slowly adding UCI ProSeries races to pl.wiki and also updating a list of winners using module:cycling I have a question about this edition. Why you added Muraglia as a winner? Both memoire-du-cyclisme and cycling archives states that he was disqualified and a first place was left empty. 99kerob (talk) 18:37, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

• @99kerob: Made it appear strikethrough, like the rest of the disqualified in the absence of redistribution of seats. - GAN (talk) 21:09, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

I think that this way of displaying disqualified cyclist isn't right as it suggest readers that he won it "legally" as any other cyclist. Wouldn't it better to mark that place as declared deserted (as it is done for example for Tour de France editions won by Lance Armstrong - for example Tour de France 2005)? Leaving it as it is without any addition is really confusing. I would even with suggest adding to Muraglia result a end cause - disqualification which will make it even more clear but I see that this way of displaying results isn't used at Wikidata. 99kerob (talk) 06:37, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

• @99kerob: In the wikidata, the winner now says "final result" - "disqualified". I also added a link to the source.

https://firstcycling.com/race.php?r=129&y=2007&l=1 - winner Muralia, but with an asterisk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Okd9uAi2ZU28gzCJgAn8kwgID769eSsK/view - 2020 Roadbook Officials (page 10), Muralia Winner Without Notes

https://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race_history.asp?raceid=4966 - winner of Vorganov

Here it is more likely to change the module so that it would be possible to display the disqualified strikethrough or instead of them the text "is missing".

element "P2561- nazwa" you can indicate the old race names with years or a shorter name instead of a long one. For example, instead of the World Championship in road cycling - the group race for men is simply “World Championship - PP.” All these names will be displayed in the calendar and the list of team victories. Example https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q670258 — GAN (talk) 15:32, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

• Stop doing that - this destroy links on Wikipedias that have separate article for ITT's at Polish National Champs (and there are more such Wiki's than different ones!) rather than one article for both ITT and road race. For example for Polish Wiki via module it should be linked to pl:Mistrzostwa Polski w kolarstwie szosowym – jazda indywidualna na czas as it was before your edition - after your edition it is not linked at all (before clearing interwikis it was even linked to pl:Mistrzostwa Polski w kolarstwie szosowym – wyścig ze startu wspólnego which looked like a joke). Check for example pl:Proliga 2017 where "Mistrzostwa Polski – jazda indywidualna na czas" should be linked to pl:Mistrzostwa Polski w kolarstwie szosowym – jazda indywidualna na czas but after your edition isn't linked at all. 99kerob (talk)
  • @99kerob: It's strange. Leave it as it is (don't fix it). Here the reason is rather in the module that goes along the chain to the end. In this case, the module should take a link to the article a little earlier. I will formulate a request to correct this error. — GAN (talk) 16:00, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

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Модуль:Cycling race/stagetitle

Hi. Why don't you use "stagetitle" function at RU Wiki? It allow to show you better information for stages. Can I help to program it and implement it for Giro 2020? Repf72 (talk) 23:19, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

• @Repf72: Hey. I know about this pattern. But I'm not planning to put it on yet. I support the module and write about races on my own - so far it's a little more convenient without it. When I get to the races, I'll watch it. I am now making seasons of continental tours and new templates for them. You can see them in my drafts HERE and HERE. Counter question - do you use "stageclassification"? Which of the active users of the module in the LUA is well versed besides the Psemdel? — GAN (talk) 22:20, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

@GAN: Hi. Yes, we use a lot "stageclassification" In fact our combo to have documented stages uses stagetitle + stageclassification + generalclasification as you can see for example here. I always talk to Psemdel for bugs and improvements. Repf72 (talk) 00:20, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

UCI America Tour

Hi! I know that this edition is right but please don't delete P585 with just a year: I creates artciles about all UCI Continental Circuits using Template:Cycling race/listofwinners and without that parameter outcome at articles is terrible (it for example show's two winners for 2005 and none for 2014 etc.). 99kerob (talk) 19:12, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

• @99kerob: to update the module did, more details here https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:GAN/Description_of_module_functions (look at the very bottom of the list) — GAN (talk) 19:29, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Q83815024

Hi,

I am not Ok with you about Q83815024 and your modification about Property:P1346. There was never a winner, because the race was called off. So you can't write that Ludo29 (talk) 15:54, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

• @Ludo29: At the moment, this parameter is responsible for displaying text in at least two more templates based on the module (links for example):

1 tournament calendar - https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCI_World_Tour_f%C3%A9minin_2020

2 list of all races - https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Women%27s_Tour

— GAN (talk) 18:30, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Cycling-init-bot

Hi Gan, I suppose you created the account on the website? I activated it (gmail blocked my email sending...). Can you just confirm that it is you, so I grant you more rights? Psemdel (talk) 19:00, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

@Psemdel: Yes. :) Can I change the password later? If necessary, I can also specify gmail. — GAN (talk) 19:17, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

It is not your fault, I need to change the mail server obviously, Gmail turns on everytime alone the security settings on and then no more activation email. Nevermind, I do it manually. To change the pass, just go in settings. Psemdel (talk) 19:26, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Please, don't find too many bugs at once :D. Psemdel (talk) 19:27, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Cycling race

Hi Gan, I must be blind, but I cannot remember where is your improved code for the module Cycling race? Psemdel (talk) 09:13, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

• @Psemdel: Here ---> Utilisateur:GAN/Brouillon. It remains only to remember your changes and add them to the main module. :))) — GAN (talk) 13:04, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Netherlands

Hi! Q55 is just a part of Q29999 (like for example England is a part of UK), second one is represented in all sports events not the first one and should be linked at all national teams. Q55 causes also an error via module at pl.wiki as we don't have separate article about that one thing and it just blows up whole startlist. 99kerob (talk) 21:15, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• @99kerob: The Kingdom of the Netherlands also includes Aruba and Curacau. And they have their own national teams and national championships in cycling. Unlike Great Britain, which is represented by a single country in cycling. 19th place is Aruba Or see Marc de Maar - he played for Curacao first, and then for the Netherlands.
  The problem of not displaying the Netherlands (not the Kingdom) in pl-wiki can be solved through redirection. Create a redirect on your pl-wiki to your article about the Kingdom of the Netherlands. I'll do the rest. — GAN (talk) 21:49, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Redirection isn't a solution as these two are not the same thing - give me a few days about that subject and don't correct linking on Wikidata until I will let you know (otherwise some start lists (like for example here) will be broken. I will probably write a short article but I need time to do that. 99kerob (talk) 18:13, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
    • @99kerob: OK. I meant this option. Make a redirect and attach it to Q55. And then set the desired display. — GAN (talk) 18:48, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
      • OK, I created short article about Q55 at pl.wiki so you can reverse linking on Wikidata to the correct version. 99kerob (talk) 09:03, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
        • @99kerob: It won't work that way. This can only be done with a redirect. But your names of countries and national teams are displayed only in text (not articles about them). Therefore, now you will not have bugs if the team has Q55. For example (changed Q29999 to Q55). — GAN (talk) 09:19, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

I actually always wondered what we should use... In French the description for both items don't really help understanding to which one the national team is related. For Great-Britain, no comment, the national team is clearly noted as Great-Britain, but how to fill P17... Half of the time, United-Kingdom is displayed :( . We correct, but some bots keep on "correcting" back. Taiwan was also always a difficult one, that why we introduced P1532. Psemdel (talk) 08:55, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Bycicle models

Hello GAN,

do you have a list with Bycicle models. I think it were interesting if the bycicles that were used in races exist as items in Wikidata. I can help you by adding them if you tell me a source for that. --Hogü-456 (talk) 19:37, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

• @Hogü-456: The easiest way is to list on the it-wiki in the articles about teams. For example it:Team_Qhubeka_Assos#Annuario. Or by seasons on cqranking. — GAN (talk) 13:06, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

P1813

Hi! Using P1813 at rider's items causes a problem with module - in case of Q24719068 "Марк Падун" was displayed on all Wikis (not only Russian and Ukrainian as it should be) instead of "Mark Padun". 99kerob (talk) 10:07, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

@99kerob: I restored the Russian version, it does not affect the display (checked). Ukrainian influenced. Most likely you need to add the value uk = true to "local slavicWikis = {mk = true, ru = true}" — GAN (talk) 10:38, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

2020 / 2021

Hi! UCI season is not a calendar year (January-December) - basic rule is that a new season starts a day after last World Tour race but for both 2020 and 2021 there were some small extensions to it due to COVID (for example 2021 season ends on 31st of October and all races held in November and December are already a part of 2022 season). I know that is weird but UCI like such weird rules ;). 99kerob (talk) 17:07, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

• @99kerob: I am keen on continental tours as I have made all the Africa, Asia and America calendars on Wikidata since 2005. Although several seasons started in January. And even all the winners of these races for the module. Initially, the Chantal Biya race was supposed to take place in October, but was postponed to November. https://taarifa.rw/why-team-rwanda-beat-10-countries-at-grand-prix-chantal-biya-2020/ and http://www.cyclingfever.com/calendar.html?_p=league&league_id=5 — GAN (talk) 17:43, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Call for participation in a task-based online experiment

Dear GAN,

I hope you are doing good,

I am Kholoud, a researcher at King's College London, and I work on a project as part of my PhD research, in which I have developed a personalised recommender system that suggests Wikidata items for the editors based on their past edits. I am collaborating on this project with Elena Simperl and Miaojing Shi.

I am inviting you to a task-based study that will ask you to provide your judgments about the relevance of the items suggested by our system based on your previous edits. Participation is completely voluntary, and your cooperation will enable us to evaluate the accuracy of the recommender system in suggesting relevant items to you. We will analyse the results anonymised, and they will be published to a research venue.

The study will start in late January 2022 or early February 2022, and it should take no more than 30 minutes.

If you agree to participate in this study, please either contact me at kholoud.alghamdi@kcl.ac.uk or use this form https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSees9WzFXR0Vl3mHLkZCaByeFHRrBy51kBca53euq9nt3XWog/viewform?usp=sf_link I will contact you with the link to start the study.

For more information about the study, please read this post: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Kholoudsaa In case you have further questions or require more information, don't hesitate to contact me through my mentioned email.

Thank you for considering taking part in this research.

Regards

Kholoudsaa (talk) 15:18, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Tour de France 1985 (Q278715) 

Je me permets de modifier ta contribution. Au tour de France 1985, il n'y a pas de classement de meilleur jeune (young rider), il y a un classement du meilleur néophyte (best rookie). Merci de conserver le bon libellé du classement. Cordialement.
No young rider classification in 1985, but a best rookie classification--Toïlev (talk) 09:03, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

• @Toïlev: I read and write through google translate, so you can write in any language.

1 - Breaks the list of winners by year. And the TOUR takes it into account in the general list of youth classification page 125 {{#invoke:Cycling race|listofwinnerscustom|Q33881|0|0|0||0|1|1|0|1}} - copy to draft in fr-wiki
2 - And why such close attention only in 1985? After all, the Neophytes instead of the Young were from 1983 to 1986. And the TOUR takes it into account in the general list of youth classification. And until 1983, judging by the regulations, it was also not quite youthful.
— GAN (talk) 10:44, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

1 - p.125, "À l’origine, le maillot blanc était porté par les coureurs participant pour la première fois au Tour de France." -> Meilleur néophyte et non meilleur jeune

2 - Pourquoi seulement 1985 ? Simplement parce que j'ai eu l'attention porté sur ce Tour. Mais tu as raison bien d'autres Tour de France n'ont pas eu de classement de meilleur jeune mais un classement du meilleur néophyte.--Toïlev (talk) 11:26, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

C'est vrai qu'il s'agissait d'un classement de meilleur néophyte et non de meilleur jeune à l'époque. Mais aux yeux des organisateurs c'est le même classement, seulement les règles et le nom ont changé au fil des temps, chose qui arrive fréquemment. Une meilleure solution qui ne casse pas la base de données serait de récenser les différents noms du classement dans la propriété official name (P1448) de Young rider classification in the Tour de France (Q2254180), avec les dates de validité respectives, comme l'on le fait déjà pour les équipes (exemple). -- Rz98 (talk) 22:41, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

• @Rz98: Here you also need to take into account the display of this nomination in the race card and its interaction with other templates of this module. {{#invoke:Cycling race|infobox|Q278715}} — GAN (talk) 22:55, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Singapore

Dear GAN,

It would seem that there is a discrepancy between the UCI code of cycling team (P1998) that we use for Singapore national cycling team (Q99646686) and actual UCI usage. We use SGP but UCI actually uses SIN (example). It seems that the IOC code changed in 2017 from SIN to SGP, and Wikidata followed suite but UCI didn't (at least not yet). Should this be changed? -- Rz98 (talk) 11:49, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

• @Rz98: Agree. uci.org, Asian Championship 2018 and 2019. Everywhere "SIN". — GAN (talk) 12:45, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

  Alright, I changed the codes (only ten occurrences as far as I could see). Thanks for the links! I will see what I can get out of this. -- Rz98 (talk) 14:09, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Links who when became a member of the UCI:

• ~2009 - https://web.archive.org/web/20120810232603/https://www.uci.ch/templates/UCI/UCI1/layout.asp?MenuId=MTI2NjU&LangId=1
• 2013 - https://www.cyclingnews.com/features/confederacy-of-dunces-a-look-into-the-uci-presidential-election/
• 2015 - https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cookson-adds-cas-arbitrator-to-ethics-commission-adds-new-federations/
• Vanuatu - https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cookson-adds-cas-arbitrator-to-ethics-commission-adds-new-federations/
• Samoa, Cook Islands, Nouvelle-Calédonie, Northern Mariana Islands - https://oceaniacycling.org/samoa-welcomed-as-10th-member-of-oceania-cycling-confederation/
• Solomon Islands - https://oceaniacycling.org/solomon-islands-welcomed-as-11th-member-of-oceania-cycling-confederation/
• Equatorial Guinea, Solomon Islands, South Sudan, Vatican - https://www.cityreviewss.com/south-sudan-joins-international-union-of-cyclists/
• UAE - federation since 1974 https://velolive.com/velo_news/5319-sky-dive-dubai-oae-sozdayut-svoyu-kontinentalnuyu-komandu.html
  • cyclingnews.com if it does not open completely, then look through "web.archive.org", it opens completely there

Property:P1532

Посмотрите, пожалуйста, описание свойства Property:P1532 (свойство Wikidata usage instructions: Property:P2559. В нем сказано, что тренера тоже могут иметь спортивное гражданство. К тому же я привел ссылку на БРЭ, в которой четко сказано, что Каминский - белорусский спортсмен. Jarash (talk) 07:37, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

• @Jarash: Восстановил. Звиняюсь. Я на ссылку в ВД глянул --- а она на элемент о БРЭ в ВД ведёт (а она оказывается хитро сделана), плюс он только за СССР вступал. На автомате и удалил. Только маленькая просьба как минимум у велогонщиков указывать даты начала и окончания для спортивного гражданства. У нас веломодуль на их основе флаги отображает. — GAN (talk) 17:47, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Santic-Wibatech

Leopard TOGT Pro Racing is a new Continental Team, different from Leopard Pro Cycling, even if it looks different on procyclingstats. Just like that, team Santic-Wibatech is different than Wibatech Merxx. A few people and a sponsor came from the old team, but it is a new team! You can have a look at the [Team Homepage]: "Das Team Santic Wibatech ist ein neues, deutsches Kontinental Team ..." (Team Santic Wibatech is a new German Continental Team ...) You can also have al look here [2]], an article about the end of Wibatech Merxx.--Kawona67 (talk) 07:57, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

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2023 Gent–Wevelgem

Hi! Why you did this revert? The 2023 edition of Gent-Wevelgem can't be "subclass of" of "1.UWT", because "subclass of" means that all instances of this item are instances of that item, but instances of 2023 Gent–Wevelgem cannot exist! Thank you BohemianRhapsody (talk) 08:53, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

• @BohemianRhapsody: Hi! For cycling, for several years in articles we have been using templates based on the "Module:Cycling race" module (This is his "talk page") Templates are created for almost any occasion related to cycling. Similarly to this race "Ghent-Wevelgem" all other cycling races are filled. Not only Gent-Wevelgem, but others. — GAN (talk) 09:04, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your answer. I can't find in the project you linked specific requirements for how to fill the properties, so which of my edits are correct for you and which are a problem for the Module?

These were my edits:

1. setting "instance of" season (Q27020041)
2. setting "sports season of league or competition" Gent–Wevelgem (Q498661)
3. removing "subclass of" 1.UWT (Q22231106)
4. removing "instance of" Gent–Wevelgem (Q498661)

I think that:

1. is correct because "2023 GW" is one single edition of the recurring "GW" (maybe, if you think is more correct, we can change from season (Q27020041) to recurring sporting event edition (Q114609228));
2. is consequent to 1.
3. is what I was explaining above so it was an error (because "subclass of" means that all instances of this item are instances of that item);
4. is the one that probably I don't mind if you need it and don't want to remove it.

• @BohemianRhapsody:This filling has developed over the time of use and development of the module. "P279" "subclass" is responsible for displaying the column "Class" in the table fr:Modèle:Cycling race/calendarcustom and fr:Modèle:Cycling race/victories — GAN (talk) 09:24, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

So only 3. is the problem for the Module? Can I restore the other edits (1., 2. and 4.)?

For the column "Class", anyway, I think the best property to use would be "competition class" competition class (P2094). So it would be correct to say that "2023 GW" has "competition class" "1.UWT", while it's not correct to say, as is now, that "2023 GW" is "subclass of" "1.UWT". What do you think about that? Obviously, if we need to change the Module, we will ask for an automatic edit on all the relevant items. --BohemianRhapsody (talk) 13:07, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

The same reasoning apply for this revert on Gent–Wevelgem (Q498661): GW is not a single-day road race (Q2912397), because it is a recurring event that consists of different single single-day road race (Q2912397). --BohemianRhapsody (talk) 08:28, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

• @BohemianRhapsody: On the second point. Three cards for clarity/comparison — GAN (talk) 09:24, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

"Type" in the template it is "P31"

- E3 = "Type" Recurring sports event. For this race, the parameters for the module have not yet been filled in

- GW = "Type" course d'un jour (single-day road race)

"P279" responsible for displaying "Categories"

Gent–Wevelgem
Race details
Sport	Road bicycle racing
Creation	1934
Number of éditions	86 (in 2024)
Frequency	yearly (Mar)
Type	Course d'un jour
Country	Belgium
Place	West Flanders
Organisator	UCI
Category	1.UWT (2011-)
Circuit	UCI World Tour
Official web site	Official site
Palmares
Most recent	Mads Pedersen
Most wins	Mario Cipollini Tom Boonen Eddy Merckx Rik Van Looy Robert Van Eenaeme Peter Sagan (3 victories)
	Documentation

E3 Saxo Classic
Official names
1958-1969	Harelbeke-Antwerp-Harelbeke
1970-2002	E3 Prijs Harelbeke
2003-2013	E3 Prijs Vlaanderen
2014-2018	E3 Harelbeke
2019-2020	E3 BinckBank Classic
2021-2022	E3 Saxo Bank Classic
2023-	E3 Saxo Classic
Race details
Sport	Road bicycle racing
Creation	1958
Number of éditions	66 (in 2024)
Frequency	yearly (Mar)
Type	Course d'un jour
Country	Belgium
Organisator	UCI
Official web site	Official site
Palmares
Most recent	Mathieu van der Poel
Most wins	Tom Boonen (5 victories)
	Documentation

Durango-Durango Emakumeen Saria
Race details
Sport	Road bicycle racing
Creation	2001
Number of éditions	23 (in 2024)
Frequency	yearly (May)
Type	Course d'un jour
Country	Spain
Categories	1.9.2 (2001-2004) 1.2 (2005-2019) 1.1 (2020-)
Circuit	UCI Women's Road World Rankings
Official web site	Official site
Palmares
Most recent	Cédrine Kerbaol
Most wins	Marianne Vos (4 victories)
Documentation

Where are these cards? I think that instance of (P31) is not the correct property for mapping "type" (note that P31 can be used potentially with more than one value), so I think we should discuss on which property can be the best one. --BohemianRhapsody (talk) 13:07, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

• @BohemianRhapsody: In this format, at least all races were made in the years of the Men's World Tour, Women's Cup, Women's World Tour. Plus more races by years of continental tours. This is not one hundred races.
• In national championship races, the system has a number of offshoots. See picture at the very bottom of Wikidata:WikiProject Cycling/Documentation/victories
• Here on Wikidata, not all templates work in full force. They need to be looked up directly on Wikipedia. For example the above template "victories" fr:Modèle:Cycling race/victories

- "P31" with the main element of the race in it in the "victories" template allows you to hyperlink to the main article about the race if there is no article about the race for the year.

- "P2094" is now used to indicate that this race is women's

Are you ready to update the module for the new version? Update module in language-wiki that uses it? And update all these races under the new format? What is the first goal?

Your edit and its result 3 Oct GER cancelled sports event due to the COVID-19 pandemic — GAN (talk) 14:33, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

2020 UCI World Tour
Date	Country	Race	Winner
21 – 26 Jan	Australia	Tour Down Under	Richie Porte
2 Feb	Australia	Cadel Evans Great Ocean Road Race	Dries Devenyns
23 – 27 Feb	United Arab Emirates	UAE Tour	Adam Yates
29 Feb	Belgium	Omloop Het Nieuwsblad	Jasper Stuyven
8 – 14 Mar	France	Paris–Nice	Maximilian Schachmann
23 – 29 Mar	Spain	Volta a Catalunya	cancelled
27 Mar	Belgium	E3 Saxo Classic	cancelled
6 – 11 Apr	Spain	Tour of the Basque Country	cancelled
28 Apr – 3 May	Switzerland	Tour de Romandie	cancelled
1 May	Germany	Eschborn–Frankfurt	cancelled
7 – 14 Jun	Switzerland	Tour de Suisse	cancelled
25 Jul	Spain	Clásica de San Sebastián	cancelled
1 Aug	Italy	Strade Bianche	Wout van Aert
5 – 9 Aug	Poland	Tour de Pologne	Remco Evenepoel
8 Aug	Italy	Milan - San Remo	Wout van Aert
12 – 16 Aug	France	Critérium du Dauphiné	Daniel Martínez
15 Aug	Italy	Giro di Lombardia	Jakob Fuglsang
16 Aug	United Kingdom	London–Surrey Classic	cancelled
25 Aug	France	Bretagne Classic Ouest-France	Michael Matthews
29 Aug – 20 Sep	France	Tour de France	Tadej Pogačar
7 – 14 Sep	Italy	Tirreno–Adriatico	Simon Yates
11 Sep	Canada	Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec	cancelled
13 Sep	Canada	Grand Prix Cycliste de Montréal	cancelled
29 Sep – 3 Oct	Belgium	Benelux Tour	Mathieu van der Poel
30 Sep	Belgium	La Flèche Wallonne	Marc Hirschi
3 – 25 Oct	Italy	Giro d'Italia	Tao Geoghegan Hart
3 Oct	Germany	Hamburg Cyclassics	cancelled
4 Oct	Belgium	Liège–Bastogne–Liège	Primož Roglič
10 Oct	Netherlands	Amstel Gold Race	cancelled
11 Oct	Belgium	Gent–Wevelgem	Mads Pedersen
14 Oct	Belgium	Dwars door Vlaanderen	cancelled
18 Oct	Belgium	Tour of Flanders	Mathieu van der Poel
20 Oct – 8 Nov	Spain	Vuelta a España	Primož Roglič
21 Oct	Belgium	Classic Brugge–De Panne	Yves Lampaert
25 Oct	France	Paris–Roubaix	cancelled
5 – 10 Nov	People's Republic of China	Tour of Guangxi	cancelled

Hi, don't think about the number of edits that we'll need to fix, if we have to do it, we can use QuickStatements or we can do them in different waves, we can address that problem.

My goal is to correctly using Wikidata properties and to inserting all the relevant information: if a Module is wrongly using Wikidata properties is a problem for the Module, not for Wikidata. I don't get your point: where are that cards shown? (in some local wiki? in which pages?) Do you think that I should not inserting on 2020 EuroEyes Cyclassics (Q66739327) the info that it was a canceled sports event due to the COVID-19 pandemic (Q88903067)?

Moreover: Can I revert edit 1., 2. and 4. (see above) that doesn't affect your Module?

--BohemianRhapsody (talk) 14:53, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

• @BohemianRhapsody: Specifically for this Gent–Wevelgem 2023 race, the module is used in da:Gent-Wevelgem 2023, es:Gante-Wevelgem 2023, fr:Gand-Wevelgem 2023, no:Gent–Wevelgem 2023, pl:Gandawa-Wevelgem 2023 and ru:Гент — Вевельгем 2023. Total 6 Wikipedias. For the same race for 2022, it is used in 14 wikipedias.
• p.p. 1, 2 and 4 - are responsible for the formation of a link to the article about the race with the correct name by the module. This format has been used for over 5 years, since 2017.
• Suggest in the discussion of the Module your changes that will affect a lot of elements and what will need to be done in the module and elements for this. And how / who will change them.

— GAN (talk) 15:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

1965 Kuurne–Brussels–Kuurne (Q56322811)

Hi, Why did you reverted this? And 1945 Kuurne–Brussels–Kuurne (Q57558269) this edition starts with 0. This makes no sense... RVA2869 (talk) 08:48, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

• @RVA2869:

- You put "21" in 1965. But why then left "21" in 1966? Two races under the same number? Now all "KBK" races are numbered from "0".

- The debut race took place in 1945. Agree. And if "1" is 1945, then in 2023 it should be "76". In this case, you need to correct the numbers for ALL races.

- But

- "60" was in 2007 60th Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne - 1.1 Belgium, March 4, 2007

- There was no race in 2013

- "67" was in 2015 Tom Boonen won vorig jaar in Kuurne. De 67e editie van Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne op zondag 1 maart

- "69" was in 2017 The 69th edition of Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne saw fast racing from the start

- "70" was in 2018 poster for the 70th edition and 2018 Dylan Groenewegen sprinted to victory in the 70th edition

- "74" was in 2022 Fabio Jakobsen (Quick-Step Alpha Vinyl) a remporté au sprint, ce dimanche, la 74e édition

- "75" was in 2023 Preview: 2023 Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne the 75th edition and Tiesj Benoot is the winner of the 75th edition of Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne).

- In such a case, the two races must have the same race number. What are these races? Or am I wrong with the numbering? — GAN (talk) 12:33, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

I find it strange that the first edition doesn't get edition number 1...

(someone in the organization messed up ;-) )

FYI: 2003 Kuurne–Brussels–Kuurne (Q2349717) 2 edition numbers RVA2869 (talk) 14:01, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Отмена правки

Коллега, а на каком основании вы отменяется корректорскую правку названия элемента с «Париж — Рубе» обратно на некорректное «Париж - Рубе»? – Pacha Tchernof (talk) 20:13, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

• @Pacha Tchernof: для ВД я такого пункта не видел, чтобы указанное название точно соответствовало статье в ВП. Да и длинный дефис с клавиатуру в окошке поиска нельзя набрать чтобы найти соответственно нужную гонку. Тут почти все гонки (а их не одна сотня) с обычным дефисом в названии. Когда постоянно имеешь дело с велотематикой на ВД это намного удобнее. — GAN (talk) 20:57, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

  Для очень простого ввода длинного тире я вам советую установить «Типографская раскладка Бирмана (так и гуглится). Здравый смысл подсказывает, что правила, как минимум русского языка, распространяются на всё. Если вам сложно заменить дефисы на длинные тире, я готов потихоньку это делать. И в этом случае лучше не отменять правки с корректным русским языком, на «удобный». Надеюсь на понимание с вашей стороны. — Pacha Tchernof (talk) 17:32, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

  • @Pacha Tchernof: это если один комп, а я нескольких устройствами пользуюсь. Ваше предложение "помощи в замене" не решает последующую проблему поиска нужной гонки с длинным тире. Тем более, что в основной ВП поиск автоматически ищет статьи с длинным тире при указании в поиске короткого тире. Для чего эти сложности с неспешным исправлением и установкой лишних дополнений, если сейчас всё нормально работает? Всё таки ВД это база данных для более удобного их последующего использования. — GAN (talk) 02:12, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

    Название должно быть корректым с точки зрения правил русского языка, повторная отмена внесения корректного названия вынудит меня написать об этом инциденте. Это не ваш личный элемент, ваше удобство не является определяющим тут. То, что вы не понимаете, почему правильное название лучше неправильного — не повод отменять корректную, улучшающую правку. Для удобства поиска можете добавлять алиасы. Carn (talk) 06:07, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Муса Микаилзаде

На турнире Дорогая Шуша 2022 Муса Микаилзаде выступал за сборную Азербайджана[3][4], но в октябре 2022 года он уже выступал за клуб MSN[5]. Мне кажется, что это как-то нужно отразить в Викиданных. Interfase (talk) 16:28, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

• @Interfase: сборные у гонщиков на ВД мы не указываем. Ситуация - гонщик в течение сезона скажем выступит на чемпионате мира и континента, то это вынудит дополнительно внести в список команд для одного года дважды сборную и дважды его клубную команду чтобы не нарушить цепочку отображения данных. А есть гонщики которые по ходу сезона в качестве гостя выступают за другой клуб. Для этого при необходимости в результатах гонки используем параметр "член спортивной команды". Сборную ему в таблицу добавил, принял "Milli komanda" что это клубная команда. Что касается клуба MSN - отчасти согласен, но он мог за это клуб выступать и раньше октября, а в 2023 году? Можешь мне и в ру-вики спокойно писать. — GAN (talk) 17:14, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
  • Большое спасибо за разъяснения. Если будут ещё вопросы, напишу тогда в ру-вики. Мне тоже так удобнее. --Interfase (talk) 19:10, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

DCU Elite Team

Hi Gan,

Can you help me this task? I want "DCU Elite Team" placed over "Amatørhold" and under "Kontinentalhold". See this article for example. Then the hierarchy should be correct. Thank you in advance. Hejsa (talk) 09:47, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

• @Hejsa: I'll do it today or tomorrow. I would like to make some adjustments as well. - GAN (talk) 10:07, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
  • @GAN: Thank you! Is it possible to make a link to the article as well? --Hejsa (talk) 10:14, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
    • @Hejsa: In theory, there should be no problems with adding a link. — GAN (talk) 16:43, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
      • @Hejsa, Vandcykel: Ready. Check. Only I da:Modul:Cycling race/l10n in the sections "headoftableIII_translate" and "headoftableIII_women_translate" made all the titles in English so as not to make a mistake before adding. Translate into Danish. More details about the changes will be in Module_talk:Cycling_race#List_of_teams. — GAN (talk) 22:48, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

        Looks good, thank you very much for the help. I have made the translations. Hejsa (talk) 23:51, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Lotto-Dstny

Hello @Gan:, Team Lotto-Dstny was created after cooperation of sponsors Omega Pharma and Lotto was stopped in 2011. Omega Pharma merged with Quick Step to Omega Pharma-Quick-Step Cycling Team in 2012. Lotto created 2012 a complete new team called Lotto Belisol which becomes Lotto-Dstny. Therefore I changed the wikidata. In my opinion Lotto-Dstny is not the right path for the 1985–2004 history of Lotto and I would use instead Lotto (Q3589568). What do you think? EricSabell72 (talk) 20:35, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

• @EricSabell72: Hello. In most wikipedias that use the module, the "Lotto" cycling team is not divided into three different ones. And such edits break or may break the display of data for this cycling team through module-based templates.
  There are several more cycling teams similar to Lotto, the history of which may differ in different Wikipedias. And for them, often all the data in "WD" is filled based on the largest number of articles. When I fill in the data for such commands, I try to do my best so that the module displays the same information and / or links to articles for everyone.
  — GAN (talk) 21:40, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

  Hello Gan, ok, I can understand how you doing it (no bad meaning, just as statement). I saw as well that in many other wikis they did it in other ways, but my philosophy is to do it right. Sometimes I guess that the other see an article in e.g. Dutch and they simple translate it to their language. Without checking if this information is right or not. In my opinion the Lotto cycling team have to split in different teams. E.g. Peugeot cycling team in German wikipedia was created with existence from 1906 until 2008 – what was not right. Therefore I split it into two different articles (Peugeot cycling team and Credit Agricole cycling team). As Chinese saying says: Who has made a mistake and has not corrected it, makes a second one. A penny for your thoughts. Regards EricSabell72 (talk) 08:36, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

  • @EricSabell72: On the team's website https://www.lottodstny.be/en :Lotto Dstny, the oldest pro cycling team in the world. An impressive story of almost four decades. The Lotto cycling teams are a household name in the cycling world. Since 1985, the National Lottery has linked the name of its strong Lotto brand to the professional cycling team. They write that their team is almost 40 years old and the Lotto company came to them in 1985.
    Plus procyclingstats.com, cqranking.com, firstcycling.com trace its history back to 1985. — GAN (talk) 09:26, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

    @GAN: I read this as well, but official website is entertainment. Of course national Lottery is sponsor since 1985 - no doubt about that. On link Eight teams awarded ProTeam licences for 2012...9 you can read Lotto-Belisol got a new licence and Omega Pharma also got a ProTour licence, which means these are two independent teams.

    For me, without knowing the one and only truth, is Lotto cycling team from 1985 to 2004 and followed by Omega Pharma-Lotto from 2005 to 2011. Since 2012 Lotto-Belisol (nowerdays Lotto-Dstny) becomes a new ProTour-Team and Omega Pharma-Lotto merged with Quick Step to Omega Pharma-Quick Step. Regards EricSabell72 (talk) 11:52, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Combined

Hi GAN, I found two pages referring to the same person. Can you combine these? Its this two about Gino Van Oudenhove Q116457787 and Q22582614. The8 (talk) 00:09, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

• @The8: Done. How to combine -> Help:Merge. — GAN (talk) 06:34, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Asian rider classification

Hi, do you know if a page has been created for the Asian rider classification, since both 2023 Tour of Qinghai Lake and 2023 Tour de Langkawi have the jersey for the winner of best Asian rider. Since you are better than me at getting jerseys entered as well, 2023 Tour de Langkawi has a white jersey for the winner and 2023 Tour of Qinghai Lake has a blue jersey for the winner. We most likely need one Leader of the Asian classification and Winner of the Asian classification The8 (talk) 06:03, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

• @The8: There are two options.
  

- 1 st option - use a simplified version. Continental leader Q101246987 and Q101246986. And we create a “continental leader jersey” similar to Q31474628. The template will currently display as "Continental" rather than Asia/Asian. You just need to make it possible to manually change the title in the module
- 2nd option - we create for each continent (of which there are five) its own elements of leaders and, accordingly, jerseys. Add them to the Module. After this, the required headings will be immediately displayed.
Option 2 is more logical. But we also have classifications for the best national and regional racer User:GAN/sandbox#1 (without specifying the country or region). They are already included in the module. And in this case, it is enough just to make it possible in the module to manually change the header and T-shirts if necessary. — GAN (talk) 07:00, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Agree that option 2 is more logical, but at the same time it is only in Asia that I have seen them have classification, at least in the World Tour and ProSeries. So can enter the simplified version, same with jersey perhaps? If it had been possible and manually changed in the module it would have been fine too The8 (talk) 07:31, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Call for participation in a task-based online experiment

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Participation is completely voluntary, and your cooperation will enable us to evaluate the accuracy of the recommender system in suggesting relevant items to you. We will analyse the results anonymised, and they will be published in a research venue.

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Sources for club team rosters

Hi GAN, can you help me again?

Would it be possible to add ProCyclingStats as a visible source for team rosters, and delete UCI as source, if it's not a UCI team? See for example the roster for Team Mascot Workwear, which is a non-UCI team. Wikidata page here Q123358622. Thank you in advance. Hejsa (talk) 21:12, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

• @Hejsa: Hello. The offer is good. I tried to do it, but I couldn't. I will write Psemdel where and what exactly needs to be changed. — GAN (talk) 20:35, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
  • @Hejsa: I see you have already updated the module after the changes from Psemdel. In addition to ProCyclingStats, Team Roster can also display Cycling Quotient and Cycling Archives. For an example, see da:Team Jumbo-Visma for 2023. — GAN (talk) 12:10, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
    • @GAN: Yes I just saw it, that's great and much better than the UCI link. Thank you guys! --Hejsa (talk) 12:21, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
      • @GAN: Another thing: Could it be possible with only flag in front of the name on DA-Wiki for rosters, no country name? Maybe smaller text on mobile devices too? I think the text is too big everywhere on mobile. --Hejsa (talk) 12:30, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
        • @Hejsa: Check. If everything is fine, then I will add this to the main module on the WD. You can also remove the country from the list of victories and leave one flag in front of the name of the race. — GAN (talk) 18:58, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
          • @GAN: It looks good, please do it at the victories too. Thank you! --Hejsa (talk) 19:56, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
            • @Hejsa: Done — GAN (talk) 20:07, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

ИОФ

Привет, я рад, что вы уходите от формы "Ф, ИО" в метках, но теперь после ваших правок (напр., Sergei Ivanov (Q433949)) людей невозможно найти по форме "ИОФ"... Infovarius (talk) 11:10, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• @Infovarius: привет, можно на "ты". Ну там Putnik начал глобально по всем ФИО проходится (велогонщиков примерно более 20 тысяч). Я активно занимаюсь велотемой и основная часть для отображения в ru-wiki идёт именно через веломодуль с Викидаты. И когда начинаешь тут "идти глазами" по списку или поиску то из-за отчества порой не видно фамилии или не цепляешся за неё. А вариант именно "Ф, ИО" который я использовал это издержки более раннего варианта веломодуля и с тех пор он как-то у меня во многих вспомогающих таблицах "обосновался". — GAN (talk) 11:57, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Team names

Hi GAN, it is useless to add "Team" in team names, because we already know it is teams or cycling teams. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 18:11, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

On another hand, I don't understand why we don't have a translitteration in Russian on RU Wiki. In my memory it was possible and done for Arabic or Macedonian. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 18:13, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

@Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick: Hello.
- In "ru-wiki" we have the names of all teams in Latin. There is no source for the names of all teams in Russian. Even on Russian sites, names are often written in Latin. And very few people in "ru-wiki" are involved in the bicycle division. Therefore, it is not realistic to track the changes of all commands. And displaying some of the names in Russian and some in Latin is even worse.
- All names are taken from the UCI website. And there, not all teams use the word “Team” in their name. Accordingly, it turns out that the word "Team" is part of the team name. And in the race results of Russian and Belarusian cyclists, the flag is now not indicated according to the UCI website.
— GAN (talk) 19:35, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Языковые разделы

Насколько сложно создать группу шаблонов (Q) для другого языкового раздела? Gradmir (talk) 12:35, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

• @Gradmir: не сложно. Создаёшь модуль и три модмодуля НЕ меня их названия:
• Module:Cycling race
  • /data
  • /lang - это для отображения названий стран отличным от названия статьи. В ru-wiki пока это не используем. Например ДР Конго, а на Демократическая Республика Конго
  • /l10n - это заголовки для, можешь скопировать с ru-wiki и потом перевести. разделы имеющие в название "women" это для отображения женской формы названия для женских гонок. Например не "Победитель", а "Победительница".

После этого создаёшь шаблоны. Названия лучше оставлять как и ru-wiki, так проще потом будет копировать их из других статей.
Та вика в которой будешь создавать - там статьи о людях называются "И Ф" или "Ф, И О" или "И Ф О"?
— GAN (talk) 14:47, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Там статьи о людях называются "И Ф" Gradmir (talk) 10:05, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Код ProCyclingStats для гонки и

А как правильно указывать код ProCyclingStats для гонки и идентификаторы для других шаблонов? Gradmir (talk) 07:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

• @Gradmir:

Шаг 1 (в зависимости от типа гонки)

- для этапов выбираешь нужный этап и далее его результаты (синяя звёздочка)

- для многодневной гонки выбираешь последний этап и далее "генеральную классификацию" (жёлтую майку)

- для однодневной гонки выбираешь сначала нужную гонку за год и далее открываешь "Full result"

Шаг 2

после этого на самом вверху страницы "More -> Ember"

Шаг 3

справа внизу (относительно всего текста, а не страницы) находишь "ID:"

Шаг 4 копируешь из него цифры и вставляешь в элемент этапа или гонки

если всё правильно, то в шаблоне через модуль отобразится ссылка — GAN (talk) 11:07, 19 July 2024 (UTC)