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Simple talk
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92.14.70.85

IP 92.14.70.85 has been making a lot of complex articles. They should probably be checked. Cheers. Del_♉sion23 (talk) 11:34, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

LT-POV pusher. I mass deleted the pages and did a block. --Glaisher [talk] 17:03, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

They appear to be editing again as of 19 July. Del_♉sion23 (talk) 18:05, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Boy bands

Can someone have a look at a recent wave of changes to articles about bands? IP [1] has been adding the category Boy bands to any band made up of males. My understanding is that a boy band was a type of band based on the way it performed rather than just the sex of the members. Lots of singing and dancing, and very little playing of instruments. So One Direction would be a boy band but Guns N' Roses would not. Before I revert all the changes, could some one else give me a second opinion?--Peterdownunder (talk) 23:22, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

I reckon our page boy band has it about right. In addition to the points you suggest, they also have to be young: teens or early twenties, say. Guns n' Roses are certainly not! (even when younger they were never described as a boy band) I suggest you put up a defn. on the category page, and remove the cat from any pages which do not qualify. Oh, I see En wiki has a great page on it: [2] gives examples of those groups which qualify... Macdonald-ross (talk) 07:20, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

I reverted one of these last night. My edit summary ended up being pretty much that "Band made of Males ≠ Boy Band". 'Nsync is a boy band, Creed for example is not. CRRaysHead90 | ^#RaysUp 21:37, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Twinkle

It looks like we are having the same problems here as on enwiki with the Twinkle tab. --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 21:05, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Should be fixed now. Please clear your browser's cache. I also noticed it but was too lazy to look into it until today. --Glaisher [talk] 17:16, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

BLP no source and no source tags

Excuse me, I don't really agree with the idea BLP no source notices are used for people born in the last 115 years that are deceased. Examples include Patricia Highsmith, Cass Elliot, Linda Gary, Joanna Moore and Anna Lee. One user, however, appears to think otherwise (thinks that people born in last 115 years who don't have any sources on their articles need BLP no source notices). The truth is, regular no source notices apply because the person is no longer living. We must follow policy. Now sometimes, I put "no sources" due to some sources used on English Wikipedia not being recognized by the spam filters on Simple English Wikipedia. You have to be really careful when you add biographies here. Angela Maureen (talk) 02:59, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Although I think one or more editors have been a bit overzealous about it lately, that actually is in accordance with policy. The part about 115 years is at en:WP:BDP. It says, in part, "Anyone born within the past 115 years is covered by this policy unless a reliable source has confirmed their death." On this Wiki, we have been lax about requiring sources, but really, all articles should have them. You could address this issue by including a source for each person's death date (or at least for the fact that they are dead, if you can't find a source for the actual date). Just be sure it's a reliable source. --Auntof6 (talk) 03:46, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Using only UploadWizard for uploads

Hello! It was noted that on this wiki upload is not fully functional for users, who will experience a very difficult and/or illegal uploading. In fact, the licenses/copyright tags dropdown is empty, making it hard or impossible to comply with copyright requirements during upload itself.

Presumably, you don't have interest nor energies to have hundreds templates with the now required HTML, even less a local EDP. I propose to have

• local "Upload file" restricted to the "Administrators" group (for emergency uploads) and
• the sidebar point to commons:Special:UploadWizard,

so that you can avoid local maintenance and all users can have a functioning, easy upload interface in their own language. All registered users can upload on Commons and existing files will not be affected.

All this will get done around 2014-07-03.

1. If you disagree with the proposal, just remove your wiki from the list. Remember also to create MediaWiki:Licenses locally with any content (see a simple example), or uploads will be soon disabled anyway by MediaWiki itself (starting in version 1.24wmf11).
2. To make the UploadWizard even better, please tell your experience and ideas on commons:Commons:Upload Wizard feedback.

Nemo 13:09, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

That would be because we don't allow uploading of pictures here so no need to do things like fill in the licenses section. That being said your proposal does make sense as it would help users upload to commons instead. Although we do use local uploading for audio versions of articles, but no one has made an audio version of an article in a few years. -DJSasso (talk) 13:14, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Media Viewer is now live on this wiki

Media Viewer lets you see images in larger size

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Color format change

I begun changing the format of the color comparison charts. with about 80 of them and 16 completed this will be a very slow process. It might take up to a week or two to complete the the change. In the meantime please do not revert it.

Advantages to the new format:

• sortable, which means you can have the colors the order you want.
• clean and organized, sources in one column hex codes in another, not all over the place.
• HSL codes, you can have it in a rainbow order (H), gray to color order(S), or dark to light order(L). 8:53PM, 24 June 2014 (EDT) --Toran107 (talk) 00:53, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

List of 1000 basic words

Hello!

Does someone know where does this list come from? How were those words selected for that list?

Thanks! --Racso (talk) 03:18, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

I believe its a combination of coming from WP:BE850 and WP:BE1500. Essentially that is an in house created list so to speak, whereas the other two are from Ogden. -DJSasso (talk) 12:04, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Suggested change to Twinkle warning

For the warning on copying and pasting from English Wikipedia, could we add some text about being sure to include attribution? Maybe something like this at the end of the existing text:

In addition, be sure to include attribution on the article's talk page.

I'm not sure who the arbiter of this is, so I'm asking here. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:43, 28 June 2014 (UTC)