User talk:Fr33kman/Archive 12

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24 hours

Hey fr33kman. You closed Jamesofur's RfB early. It is supposed to run for at least 24 hours to allow anyone to raise any objection. You closed it at a little less than 20 hours. I have no objection to him being granted the tools, but I think we ought not to rush these sorts of decisions and give it at least a full day! EhJJ^TALK 01:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I actually thought it was 48 hours. Griffinofwales (talk) 01:12, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You are both correct! I totally misunderstood the new policy! Sorry to all concerned! I don't know how you want to handle this but however you wish is fine EhJJ. If you want a steward to decrat him that's cool with me. fr33k man 01:16, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, let's just re-open the RfB, leave James flagged, but ask him not to use his tools quite yet (not like there's a dire immediate need), and hope he passes. If an objection is raised and he ends up failing in 7 days, we can ask a crat to de-flag him. (And you, fr33kman... just kidding, but I will need to trout you... where do I keep my spare trout?). Sound reasonable? EhJJ^TALK 01:25, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whack!

Do not take this seriously. Someone wants to let you know you did something silly!

Found it. EhJJ^TALK 01:27, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds fine! :) fr33k man 01:29, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm so confused here now. I thought it was 24 hours (and according to my clock, 25 had passed, but alas, I'm not looking at UTC :| )... for example, Wikipedia:Requests_for_bureaucratship/NonvocalScream has a crat not at the top with a 24h early closure eligibility note. Jon@talk:~$ 01:29, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I also am confused. I thought it was closable also. But .... fr33k man 01:32, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As in the 24 hr closure in this RFB the YOU closed EhJJ!!!! :/ fr33k man 01:36, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, 24 hours after 05:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC) (when he accepted) is 05:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC). Look at my time stamp for the current time. Consensus was 24 hours, so we should aim for that. EhJJ^TALK 01:53, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I misread the time, my bad! fr33k man 01:54, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion is located here, where the RFB is eligible for close if there are no objections in 24 hours time. Jon@talk:~$ 01:39, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just confirming that I'm aware :) James (T C) 03:11, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mail.

Hey Fr33kman. You have mail. It isn't overly urgent, but does require your help. Thanks!--Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 03:33, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do it Wednesday. :) fr33k man 05:06, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alright thanks Fr33k! :) --Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 13:50, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done 1 day early, sorry but I've been writing Wednesday all day today!! :/ Hope you don't mind :( fr33k man 19:34, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism-only accounts

Hello. I'd like to know if its appropriate to use the level 4im warning templates on vandalism-only accounts. Hazard-SJ^Talk 04:49, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It depends. If an account has made three or four vandal edits in a row without anyone warning them, then I'd go with a 3 then 4. If the edits are really bad vandalism then you go 4im. I block hate speech vandals on sight so a 4im is always appropriate with them in my books, but not all admins are so strict. fr33k man 04:54, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This your sentiment? sonia ♫ 04:57, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty much fr33k man 05:00, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(change conflict) (change conflict) Yes, it is. Thanks. (I'll have to stick with 4im, as I can't block (not a big problem as an admin usually comes on within 15 minutes and takes action)). I was only wondering if it was too harsh. Hazard-SJ^Talk 05:02, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

By "harsh", I was referring to it being done by a user, as if they give that 4im warning, it may be given again if action isn't taken. Hazard-SJ^Talk 05:04, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Non-admins are fully entitled to use the harshest warnings with vandals (or others) if the situation warrants it. If you place a 4im warning and they violate it, report to VIP and just keep reverting their edits. Don't place another warning, they obviously don't care. fr33k man 05:09, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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That's what I was just thinking. Hazard-SJ^Talk 05:11, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ping

You have mail. Advice appreciated. sonia ♫ 11:00, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Block during conversation

I noticed that you said that you blocked User:TeleComNasSprVen for a week. (S)he was posting notices on my created pages that they are too complex. Can (s)he still edit his talk page? Thank you. --Chemicalinterest (talk) 11:36, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, he can still edit his own user talk page. EhJJ^TALK 12:22, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion about WikiProject Literature

Hello, Fr33kman. I wanted to alert you to a post on the talk page of WikiProject Literature. It is a proposal which concerns all members of the project. Your opinion or suggestions would be most welcome. Cheers, PrincessofLlyr ^talk 18:21, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks...

That drooling jackass has been following me all over the internet since Satuday; he's utterly deranged. Other users have been incessantly harassed by this doofus as well and I'm about to bring in either the police or the FBI based on what I've learned. Could I impose on you to block his entire range for at least a year (I just did so at WP) and to remove that asinine edit summary of his? Thanks. PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:19, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

PS: I'd greatly appreciate partial protection of my user and talk pages. Doggone it, if I can admin at the flagship, why not here? Anyway, thanks again. PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:22, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Given what you've said, I've no issues with a year. Let me know what becomes of it pal! fr33k man 01:26, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Freeky, I love ya. Thanks much. He's getting desperate now that all of his known ranges are blocked wherever I can do so. I initiated a 0/24 block on him which should pretty much shut him up. He's been such a pest to so many for for way too long. PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Remember dude that I'm now also a global sysop so can block on over 600 wikis as well! Plus if need be we can get more global locks done also. Chin up! :) fr33k man 02:07, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hot damn tamale, keep an eye on your e-mail! YES! I have a list of this charming individual's known IPs. I'll send you an e-mail which connects with my work address and I'll attach my personal e-mail address. I can then forward the list to you. Let's just shut him down once and for all. PMDrive1061 (talk) 02:15, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

With pleasure! ;) fr33k man 02:16, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I tell you, I was never more petrified in my life than when this whack job started in on me back on Saturday. I've now gotten the upper hand thanks to some really great users. Take a look at your e-mail and let's get this party started. PMDrive1061 (talk) 02:26, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Indef protection of Pinniped

Hey, I noticed you put an indef, sysop-only, protection on Pinniped. Typically for edit wars, don't we do a couple-day protection? Technically, sysops shouldn't edit this article either, while protected, meaning you have effectively stopped anyone from ever editing this article. I imagine you plan on unprotecting it soon, but perhaps it would be better to set a fixed protection from the start, just in case you forget. Also, it allows others to know how long to wait until they are permitted to edit that article again. Thanks! EhJJ^TALK 01:42, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

EhJJ, you, like myself, are an educated man. You know that indefinite means just that, unsure, unfixed. If a person is unsure as to how long a certain action should be extant then they should use indef. We (as a project) must get over this culture where we have equated indef with permanent. I want the two editors to actually discuss the issue prior to an over-eager admin blocking them. we are blocking far too many named users lately. If we want to grow, let's educate new users rather than smack them with the naughty stick! fr33k man 01:55, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I also agree with EhJJ, 48 hours would be an appropriate time. Griffinofwales (talk) 01:57, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Again, indefinite does not mean forever; look it up! fr33k man 01:59, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really care. We shouldn't be protecting pages "indefinitely". What is wrong with 48 hours? Griffinofwales (talk) 02:03, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What is wrong with you acting like an admin, making a decision to alter another admin's decision and altering something you think is wrong. We can then discuss it, no? fr33k man 02:07, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I discuss first. Seems to make more sense that way, don't you think? Griffinofwales (talk) 02:09, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

unhiding

I recently undid the hiding of the entry in the deletion log that you hid, as I couldn't think of a reason why it was done. Hiding it only hides the title of the page, and not the content (which is already deleted). If I missed something, let me know. Griffinofwales (talk) 01:52, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Heartburn cured with vinegar

I never heard of that cure. Normally antacids that contain calcium carbonate, a hydrated form of aluminium oxide, a hydrated form of magnesium oxide, or sodium bicarbonate are used to temporarily get rid of the situation (by neutralizing the acids that are in the esophagus but don't belong). Medicines are also used to treat the disease, not the symptoms like the antacids do. But heartburn is the result of an acid, and adding more acid certainly wouldn't help. It could help indigestion though, if you have too little acid in the stomach. --Chemicalinterest (talk) 10:43, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I asked the question because you asked people to ask you questions :), so ... Vinegar is actually one of the oldest useful remedies for heartburn known to man. Heartburn is caused by hydrochloric acid from the stomach refluxing into the lower oesophagus past the lower oesophageal sphincter. There is a sensor matrix there that causes the LES to constrict when acid touches it. Oddly enough, in heartburn the acid coming up from the stomach is not strong enough to cause the sphincter to close, so pouring vinegar (traditionally white apple cider vinegar in Europe) triggers the sensor to close the sphincter. This stops the stomach acid from refluxing. Antacids are helpful to some people, but can often makes things worse. People become reliant upon them and they end up making to stomach to basic. They also affect other areas of the lower GI tract; where pH plays a very important role. More of a cure to fix the issue rather than the symptoms. Too many doctors just treat the symptoms of GERD/GORD :( fr33k man 01:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not strong enough? Vinegar is pH 2.9; Gastric juice is about 2. Vinegar is weaker, otherwise it would burn like fire when you eat salad dressing. --Chemicalinterest (talk) 23:27, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The gastric juices in people with heartburn can reach pH 4.1 ~ 3.6 or so. So it's acidic enough to hurt the delicate tissues of the lower oesophagus but not low enough to trigger a closure. fr33k man 23:46, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, now I understand. I actually learned something by someone asking me a question! Thanks. --Chemicalinterest (talk) 22:57, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's the purpose of questions, to teach. :) fr33k man 23:26, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article for deletion

Thanks for the advice. I have placed it in the articles for deletion section.

Thanks.

--92.11.37.172 (talk) 20:02, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You are most welcome! Thanks very much for your POV cleanup earlier also. We have a problem in this area because we've got no one with expertise in the Kashmir question so rely on editors to try and just remove what is obviously opinion or POV. Feel free to visit and clean more up! :) fr33k man 22:17, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

E-mail check

I sent you a purely chatty e-mail. Did you read it? --Chemicalinterest (talk) 14:48, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and no not really :) fr33k man 01:58, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Thanks for the welcome:) I'm hoping to be able to help out here, especially with copyediting and the like. Also I feel like I'll be able to help more with content creation on here. Thanks again for the warm welcome! --- cymru lass ^{(talk to me)}⁄_{(see my edits)} 01:24, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're most welcome! fr33k man 01:54, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering, is there any tool on here that's similar to enwiki's Lupin? I've been looking, but I can't find any similar tools. I'm already using Twinkle and pop-ups, by the way. --- cymru lass ^{(talk to me)}⁄_{(see my edits)} 01:59, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lupin's tool isn't really needed here because just refreshing Recent Changes is more than adequate. We don't get the number of edits that enwiki does. I leave my recent changes on 100 and just press reload. fr33k man 02:02, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

User:GangstaEB/recent2.js πr² (talk • changes) 02:10, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All right, thanks to both of you for your advice!

--- cymru lass ^{(talk to me)}⁄_{(see my edits)} 00:20, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wha??

Why did you revert my sandbox edit? The sandbox is used for practicing to change wikipedia. Why'd you revert it? Mysteryman (talk)

The sandbox clearly has a line that asks editors to leave it alone. You chose to remove that line. Hence the rollback=vandalism. fr33k man 03:19, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stripes

Should probably be blocked anyways, but his first block was a username block, so the fact he created a new account isn't necessarily against the rules (it actually suggests doing so in the username block template). That being said it was still promotional in nature so it probably doesn't matter. -DJSasso (talk) 17:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah just saw that; changed block to badusername block softblock. fr33k man 17:22, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

eu.wikibooks

Hello.

I have put for deletion some articles. They are some bertso or poems made by 11 year students with no educational purpose. Frequently they have mistakes in writing. When you delete them I will remove the main title from the main page. Thank you. - Joxemai (talk) 06:44, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done I have deleted all the articles. Thx! fr33k man 01:25, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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What does "A case of mistaken identity" mean? --Alpha Quadrant ^talk 02:10, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reply --Alpha Quadrant ^talk 03:28, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IRC

Hi Fr33kman, I was practicing IRC commands on the IRC channel ##Alpha_Quadrant and accidentally -F myself. Can you please re +F me? Thanks, --Alpha Quadrant ^talk 16:44, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

angwiki

Hello. I've removed Wōdenhelm's sysop tools at ang.wikipedia; his three months temporary sysop permissions have expired. You may want to help him in re-applying for the rights again, since he's used them activelly there. Regards, Dferg (talk) 15:16, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Another example of my clumsiness

Hello, dearest and beloved Fr33kman! Sorry for this accident. Another scandalizing evidence of my clumsiness, I find. I didn't know you had closed it. Anyway, do continue your wonderful work and don't stop shining your wisdom in this sweet project! ♥ingly, Bella ^{tête-à-tête} 06:26, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Albacore (talk) 21:32, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of oversighter

Tired of seeing everyone's home address? --Chem ic al int er est (talk) 12:06, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If only it was that exciting...you shall be missed. --Peterdownunder (talk) 12:15, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks pal. ... Yeah, most of it was pretty mundane stuff. :) fr33k man 13:06, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IRC

Could I talk to you in IRC about a sensitive issue? Thanks. --Addihockey10 (talk) 05:02, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can be found in the #wikipedia-simple channel on freenode. Addihockey10 (talk) 05:06, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year

Happy New Year

I hope that 2010 was a great year for you, and that 2011 will be an even better one! Enjoy the rest of your Holiday Season.
They Year 2010
The Year 2011
Keep up all the great editing and work you have done in the past year, and hopefully next year will be as good!

Tofutwitch11 ^(TALK) 21:39, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Service Award

This editor is a **Senior Editor I** and has the right to show this **Iron Editor Star**.

Most people get books, but for you I think the medal. A little late for your two year service, but I will try to be on time for the next. Congratulations, Peterdownunder (talk) 12:39, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ahhh, another year of penance done with. :) Thx! fr33k man 03:02, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Flood flag

The flood flag will not work if it is added after longing into AWB. I will logout and log back in. If you edit the talk page for my maintenance account it will prevent me from editing until I login to view the message. MorganKevinJ^(talk) 22:34, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your block

I actually rangeblocked it for 3 months.. --Bsa dow ski1 05:17, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was actually following a xwiki trail and just blocked it without thinking you might have range blocked it. :) fr33k man 05:54, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Non-binary is a mental illness.

Gender dysphoria is a myth. There are only two genders. Sex and gender are the same thing. Stop getting your info from CNN. 2600:1000:B02A:8E70:49E8:8DB2:7B5B:4D6D (talk) 15:29, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What kind of ice cream do you prefer, chocolate, vanilla, or stacciatella? - And if for some odd reason, tomorrow, you want another kind, is that shameful? - Except for very tradidtiionalist, closed societies, I don't think we should care much about what two consenting adults do in their free time.... Eptalon (talk) 15:36, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well said dude. fr33k man 15:37, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@2600:1000:B02A:8E70:49E8:8DB2:7B5B:4D6D, that goes against transgenders 88.110.38.249 (talk) 17:44, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@88.110.38.249 and that is totaly5 bonkers, what you just said 88.110.38.249 (talk) 17:44, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!

Hi fr33kman! I haven't interacted with you before since I joined a few years back. Just wanted to say Hi and Welcome back :) Tsugaru let's talk! :) 00:12, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! fr33k man 00:22, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings from another old acqaintance. Peterdownunder (talk) 10:19, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

G'Day mate!! Yes, I'm back for good. I've put in my years of doctoring and it's 'me time' now. I'm buying a Nordhavn 60 and plan on doing as little as possible for the rest of my life. Gf has a few years left to go but that's her problem ;p Nice to see you. I'm stunned at how many old-timers are still here. Remember the year we all became stewards?! lol, that was fun. simplewiki had more stewards per admin than any other project, he he .... I'll see you around Peter... fr33k man 17:53, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this project still has a lot of stewards as admins, although probably not as many as there used to be! --Ferien (talk) 19:52, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Austin Santoro RfD

For some reason, it looks like your comment was adjusted twice – both here and here. I reverted your comment back to what it was. Whether you want to remove the reply correcting your adjusted reason is up to you :) --Ferien (talk) 19:51, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah fine. I've removed the second line. Thx fr33k man 00:22, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Human Penis article images

Please see my comments in https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Simple_talk Tetsuo (talk) 05:06, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can you have a look at two articles of mine?

Hello, I recently tried to bring over two articles from EnWP, with the translation tool. While it has its benefits, it also has the drawback of making people stick to the EnWP version too much; the result are articles that are either not simple, or are no good for the target audience. The two articles are Youth suicide and Self-destructive behavior. In the case of youth suicide, I think what is there now is too much focused on bean-counting ("Statistics"). I know that neither is an easy subject, but I believe that having accurate, sound information is important. So, if you find time, please have a look... Eptalon (talk) 16:01, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Will do! After just a quick look at youth suicide, I think it's a good start but see what you mean about stats. I'll focus on the summary section first because it should contain a synopsis of the whole article and doesn't. I'll dig into causes, treatments, focus in different societies (ie: there are some cultures where suicide either doesn't exist or barely exists (eg:Nepal, jungle tribes etc...). Then I'll do self-destructive behaviour. fr33k man 18:09, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Do you want to try and get this to be a good article? I think we could do it. fr33k man 20:11, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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