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Occasionally someone comments on reviews to let me know it would have been a great! review had I not included politics. They go on to inform me that politics has no place in fiction, and I ruined my review by inserting politics.
To those people:
1. You mistake me for someone who cares that a complete stranger who has their head in the clouds doesn't like my review.
2. Have you never read Tolstoy, Hugo, Dickens, Dostoyevsky or other many, many classic writers? Dante with his Inferno full of politicians?
3. Don't bother with Stephen King's Holly because you'll get butt-hurt, especially if you're a trumper and anti-vaxxer.
To everyone else, dive right in!
I didn't realize that Holly Gibney (Jibba Jibba) appeared in 5 previous novels. I no doubt missed some references, and didn't know who a couple mentioned characters were because of that.
I still enjoyed it and don't think it is necessary to have read those other novels before this one.
I'm ambivalent about Holly's character. She didn't make me feel anything. I should have, especially since she's a hypochondriac like me who wore latex gloves and N95 masks even after getting vaccinated (I only ceded those things this summer and still don an N95 at the doctor's).
I don't know what it was about Holly, she was a bit of a bore. She also annoyed me with her use of "fracking". Just say "fucking" already.
Remember Annie Wilkes in Misery with her dirty birdies and cockadoodies. That was some entertaining non-swearing Annie Wilkes delivered. Holly and her fracking though, that just made my eyes roll.
At one point she let loose with "fucking" and I had hope for her. It didn't last long.
I loved reading every other character's POV except hers.
The story comes together through several characters. My favorites were young Barbara the aspiring poet and her mentor Olivia, and those geriatric, creepo professors emerti.
Those two were bonkers. Sadistic and crazy both. Talk about believing shit without proof... Old Professor Harris was a pro at that.
I was simultaneously amused and appalled by them. I don't want to say too much and give anything away, though the truth about them is apparent early on.
It's no secret Stephen King dislikes trump and he makes that clear in this novel as well. There's also quite a bit about Covid, mask-wearing, vaccinations, anti-vaxxers, BLM, police brutality, racism, and -is this really a thing?- elbow bumps.
To those who are turned off by this, King writes in the afterword, "I think fiction is most believable when it coexists with real-world events, real-world individuals". I agree.
This is a fun read in spite of the seriousness. There's some gore. I don't think I'll ever want a strawberry parfait again.
To those people:
1. You mistake me for someone who cares that a complete stranger who has their head in the clouds doesn't like my review.
2. Have you never read Tolstoy, Hugo, Dickens, Dostoyevsky or other many, many classic writers? Dante with his Inferno full of politicians?
3. Don't bother with Stephen King's Holly because you'll get butt-hurt, especially if you're a trumper and anti-vaxxer.
To everyone else, dive right in!
I didn't realize that Holly Gibney (Jibba Jibba) appeared in 5 previous novels. I no doubt missed some references, and didn't know who a couple mentioned characters were because of that.
I still enjoyed it and don't think it is necessary to have read those other novels before this one.
I'm ambivalent about Holly's character. She didn't make me feel anything. I should have, especially since she's a hypochondriac like me who wore latex gloves and N95 masks even after getting vaccinated (I only ceded those things this summer and still don an N95 at the doctor's).
I don't know what it was about Holly, she was a bit of a bore. She also annoyed me with her use of "fracking". Just say "fucking" already.
Remember Annie Wilkes in Misery with her dirty birdies and cockadoodies. That was some entertaining non-swearing Annie Wilkes delivered. Holly and her fracking though, that just made my eyes roll.
At one point she let loose with "fucking" and I had hope for her. It didn't last long.
I loved reading every other character's POV except hers.
The story comes together through several characters. My favorites were young Barbara the aspiring poet and her mentor Olivia, and those geriatric, creepo professors emerti.
Those two were bonkers. Sadistic and crazy both. Talk about believing shit without proof... Old Professor Harris was a pro at that.
I was simultaneously amused and appalled by them. I don't want to say too much and give anything away, though the truth about them is apparent early on.
It's no secret Stephen King dislikes trump and he makes that clear in this novel as well. There's also quite a bit about Covid, mask-wearing, vaccinations, anti-vaxxers, BLM, police brutality, racism, and -is this really a thing?- elbow bumps.
To those who are turned off by this, King writes in the afterword, "I think fiction is most believable when it coexists with real-world events, real-world individuals". I agree.
This is a fun read in spite of the seriousness. There's some gore. I don't think I'll ever want a strawberry parfait again.
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Oct 08, 2023 03:17PM
That’s funny King won’t use swear words. I wonder if that’s a publisher thing, although dirty birdies and cockadoodles is much more creative.
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Thanks for near perfect review!
1) it drew me in to read about a book by an author who is not generally someone I will read.
2)someone else who can be simultaneously amused
and appalled
3) trying to bleach out politics from reviews may actually be politically correct at the moment but such censorship does not allow for an authentic response.
4) it made me laugh: I love your spunk even when we might not agree on everything.
Now about strawberry parfaits.....
1) it drew me in to read about a book by an author who is not generally someone I will read.
2)someone else who can be simultaneously amused
and appalled
3) trying to bleach out politics from reviews may actually be politically correct at the moment but such censorship does not allow for an authentic response.
4) it made me laugh: I love your spunk even when we might not agree on everything.
Now about strawberry parfaits.....
Judith wrote: "That’s funny King won’t use swear words. I wonder if that’s a publisher thing, although dirty birdies and cockadoodles is much more creative."
Oh no, I need to amend my review!! It's not King who won't swear, it's Holly. He uses plenty of swear words and even Holly said fuck once.
This is in his afterword too, "You can’t write well without a grasp of profanity and the ability to look at filth. To sometimes exalt filth."
I don't think King would publish if the publisher insisted on no "bad" words. He usually writes authentic dialogue and exactly how you'd think the characters would speak.
Oh no, I need to amend my review!! It's not King who won't swear, it's Holly. He uses plenty of swear words and even Holly said fuck once.
This is in his afterword too, "You can’t write well without a grasp of profanity and the ability to look at filth. To sometimes exalt filth."
I don't think King would publish if the publisher insisted on no "bad" words. He usually writes authentic dialogue and exactly how you'd think the characters would speak.
Magdelanye wrote: "Thanks for near perfect review!
1) it drew me in to read about a book by an author who is not generally someone I will read.
2)someone else who can be simultaneously amused
and appalled
3) tr..."
Ah, terrific, Magdelayne!
1 & 5. I'm glad it made you want to try Stephen King... or at least find out about the strawberry parfait! This isn't my favorite of his books but I enjoyed it a lot (the beginning was a tad slow).
2. It's so fun to read books that do this, isn't it!?
3. I agree. Censorship is coming strong from both sides of the fence to where it wouldn't be much worth talking if we paid heed to everyone.
4. Agreement isn't always necessary and in fact can make for more interesting conversations when there is disagreement.
I hope you will enjoy the book!!
1) it drew me in to read about a book by an author who is not generally someone I will read.
2)someone else who can be simultaneously amused
and appalled
3) tr..."
Ah, terrific, Magdelayne!
1 & 5. I'm glad it made you want to try Stephen King... or at least find out about the strawberry parfait! This isn't my favorite of his books but I enjoyed it a lot (the beginning was a tad slow).
2. It's so fun to read books that do this, isn't it!?
3. I agree. Censorship is coming strong from both sides of the fence to where it wouldn't be much worth talking if we paid heed to everyone.
4. Agreement isn't always necessary and in fact can make for more interesting conversations when there is disagreement.
I hope you will enjoy the book!!
PS Judith: I checked and he uses "fuck" 39 times in this novel. He's definitely not against swearing.
Jenna wrote: "PS Judith: I checked and he uses "fuck" 39 times in this novel. He's definitely not against swearing."
Whew! That’s fucking fantastic.
Whew! That’s fucking fantastic.
Jenna, I’m laughing at you and Judith! For some reason, conversations about using the word fuck and its variations tickle me even more than the use itself 🤣
Great review, btw!
Great review, btw!
I love this review Jenna. Now I sooooo wanna find one of your apolitical takes and comment, “This would have been better if you’d thrown in some remarks about tRump!” 😂 (I actually do that occasionally—see Animal Farm and The Metamorphosis—and so far no one has busted my chops about it.) 😃
Isn't it a bummer when the one character you really don't like (or are bored by) is the title character? Have that problem with a series I love -- I wish the title character just wasn't there. Good review! (And yes, in places where handshaking is far more common than in the US, elbow bumps were deffo a thing. You constantly saw politicians and business people on TV greeting others that way)
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Terence M - [Quot libros, quam breve tempus!]
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Great review, Jenna! "She also annoyed me with her use of "fracking". Just say "fucking" already". This made me laugh!
Until my final retirement just a few years ago, I worked for a big Aussie hardware chain (think Lowes) and one of my supervisors was an American immigrant, which was fine, but he was from Utah, which wasn't. A lovely bloke, he was also an active and enthusiastic Mormon.
He couldn't understand why most Aussies swore profusely and he would exhort me, and my fellow workers, not to blaspheme or swear in the office, the lunch room, or the toilet.
As I am a quiet, retiring type, one day in front of a group of my colleagues, I asked him for the meaning of "frigging", a word he used all the time. He stumbled and fumbled, saying it was just a word that everyone used. So I showed him an extract from an online dictionary, similar to this one: "Frigging: rude slang. An intensifier used as a milder alternative to "fucking." "Friggin' " is also commonly used."
To say he was mortified is an understatement, but we never heard any further comments about our 'swearing'!
Until my final retirement just a few years ago, I worked for a big Aussie hardware chain (think Lowes) and one of my supervisors was an American immigrant, which was fine, but he was from Utah, which wasn't. A lovely bloke, he was also an active and enthusiastic Mormon.
He couldn't understand why most Aussies swore profusely and he would exhort me, and my fellow workers, not to blaspheme or swear in the office, the lunch room, or the toilet.
As I am a quiet, retiring type, one day in front of a group of my colleagues, I asked him for the meaning of "frigging", a word he used all the time. He stumbled and fumbled, saying it was just a word that everyone used. So I showed him an extract from an online dictionary, similar to this one: "Frigging: rude slang. An intensifier used as a milder alternative to "fucking." "Friggin' " is also commonly used."
To say he was mortified is an understatement, but we never heard any further comments about our 'swearing'!
Candi wrote: "Jenna, I’m laughing at you and Judith! For some reason, conversations about using the word fuck and its variations tickle me even more than the use itself 🤣
Great review, btw!"
I'm laughing too, Candi - Judith's ' that's fucking fantastic' has me sitting here laughing like a loon! It's so freeing to use the word, I think because it used to be so taboo. I'm glad norms are a-changing when it comes to things like the infamous F-word.
Great review, btw!"
I'm laughing too, Candi - Judith's ' that's fucking fantastic' has me sitting here laughing like a loon! It's so freeing to use the word, I think because it used to be so taboo. I'm glad norms are a-changing when it comes to things like the infamous F-word.
Kevin wrote: "I love this review Jenna. Now I sooooo wanna find one of your apolitical takes and comment, “This would have been better if you’d thrown in some remarks about tRump!” 😂 (I actually do that occasion..."
Ha, ha, Kevin! I'm surprised no one has verbally attacked you over your use in those in reviews! I often delete those comments, because they're usually angry and poorly written and I don't want to engage. Occasionally I leave them and write something sarcastic in return.
Ha, ha, Kevin! I'm surprised no one has verbally attacked you over your use in those in reviews! I often delete those comments, because they're usually angry and poorly written and I don't want to engage. Occasionally I leave them and write something sarcastic in return.
Berengaria wrote: "Isn't it a bummer when the one character you really don't like (or are bored by) is the title character? Have that problem with a series I love -- I wish the title character just wasn't there. Good..."
Yes, I wished Holly weren't even a character, let alone the main one. Thankfully the whole book wasn't her POV.
Thanks for letting me know elbow bumps were a thing. I (obviously) don't watch the news, I can't stand when there's just a video on BBC, Reuters, or NPR because I can't stand watching them and only read articles.
Also, I went NOWHERE during the pandemic - I was lucky I could work from home and I don't normally go many places anyway. So if there were elbow bumps going on around here, I have no clue. I dislike handshakes but elbow bumps seem kind of silly. Why not just do a little bow thing like the Japanese?
Yes, I wished Holly weren't even a character, let alone the main one. Thankfully the whole book wasn't her POV.
Thanks for letting me know elbow bumps were a thing. I (obviously) don't watch the news, I can't stand when there's just a video on BBC, Reuters, or NPR because I can't stand watching them and only read articles.
Also, I went NOWHERE during the pandemic - I was lucky I could work from home and I don't normally go many places anyway. So if there were elbow bumps going on around here, I have no clue. I dislike handshakes but elbow bumps seem kind of silly. Why not just do a little bow thing like the Japanese?
Terence M - [Quot libros, quam breve tempus!] wrote: "Great review, Jenna! "She also annoyed me with her use of "fracking". Just say "fucking" already". This made me laugh!
Until my final retirement just a few years ago, I worked for a big Aussie har..."
Ha!! That was an awesome thing to point out to him, Terence! My take on swearing is exactly that. Someone somewhere for some reason decided certain words were "bad" and that's the only reason they're "bad".
But then you have other words that mean the same thing but are considered acceptable? That's just silly. I'm glad your pointing that out to the self-righteous dude that he was basically saying fucking got him to stop harping on all of you about swearing!
Until my final retirement just a few years ago, I worked for a big Aussie har..."
Ha!! That was an awesome thing to point out to him, Terence! My take on swearing is exactly that. Someone somewhere for some reason decided certain words were "bad" and that's the only reason they're "bad".
But then you have other words that mean the same thing but are considered acceptable? That's just silly. I'm glad your pointing that out to the self-righteous dude that he was basically saying fucking got him to stop harping on all of you about swearing!
Maria wrote: "Thank you for making my day with this review/comments 🤣"
Glad you enjoyed it and yes, the comments are entertaining too, Maria!
Glad you enjoyed it and yes, the comments are entertaining too, Maria!
Maureen wrote: "You write the most amazing reviews Jenna, this one gave me a much needed laugh! 😂"
Thank you, Maureen! I'm glad it gave you that much-need laugh!
Thank you, Maureen! I'm glad it gave you that much-need laugh!
Jackie wrote: "Fucking great Review Jenna !!!!! 🤣 Gotta read this Fucking book 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ! You made me laugh !"
Ha, ha, thanks, Jackie! Your comment made me laugh too 🤣 🤣 🤣
Ha, ha, thanks, Jackie! Your comment made me laugh too 🤣 🤣 🤣
Rowan wrote: "Such an entertaining review, Jenna! Made me laugh - I'm so glad you enjoyed this King 😊"
Glad you enjoyed it, Rowan!
Glad you enjoyed it, Rowan!
A most entertaining review, Jenna! I've only read a few King novels (liked them all!), and this one sounds like one to try out!
Yes, elbow bumps are a thing - Barack Obama often used them years before COVID! Fist bumps are also a thing. Both meant to avoid spreading germs through handshakes.
Yes, elbow bumps are a thing - Barack Obama often used them years before COVID! Fist bumps are also a thing. Both meant to avoid spreading germs through handshakes.
Michelle Only Wants to Read wrote: "Not the parfait! Ewww 🤮"
😂😂😂. Hope you're enjoying the book, Michelle!
😂😂😂. Hope you're enjoying the book, Michelle!
Debbie wrote: "A most entertaining review, Jenna! I've only read a few King novels (liked them all!), and this one sounds like one to try out!
Yes, elbow bumps are a thing - Barack Obama often used them years bef..."
I know about fist bumps; I don't recall President Obama doing an elbow bump... or anyone for that matter. I must have just forgotten it?
I don't like handshakes in the first place..... my brain gets creative about where those hands have been, what they've touched, etc.🤢
Yes, elbow bumps are a thing - Barack Obama often used them years bef..."
I know about fist bumps; I don't recall President Obama doing an elbow bump... or anyone for that matter. I must have just forgotten it?
I don't like handshakes in the first place..... my brain gets creative about where those hands have been, what they've touched, etc.🤢
Great review Jenna. Anti-vaxxers are indeed the most butt-hurt wannabe victims of our generation, and I'm glad to hear The King writes his new fiction with intelligent readers in mind, and not their ilk. I may be getting this book for Christmas. Looking forward to it! :)
I love your review, it made me laugh and like you I believe that writers like everybody else have a right to express their views, if someone disagrees they can just not buy the book, instead of bashing it because they don't like the writer's politics.
Ethan (fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed) wrote: "Great review Jenna. Anti-vaxxers are indeed the most butt-hurt wannabe victims of our generation, and I'm glad to hear The King writes his new fiction with intelligent readers in mind, and not thei..."
Thanks, Ethan! Yes, he definitely writes for those of us who don't think someone is a pro simply because they have a youtube video. I admire that about him, that he's not afraid of offending the anti-vaxxers, etc. Of course, with as many books as he's already sold, he doesn't have to worry about offending anyone!
I hope you'll enjoy this book too if you do get it.
Thanks, Ethan! Yes, he definitely writes for those of us who don't think someone is a pro simply because they have a youtube video. I admire that about him, that he's not afraid of offending the anti-vaxxers, etc. Of course, with as many books as he's already sold, he doesn't have to worry about offending anyone!
I hope you'll enjoy this book too if you do get it.
MM Suarez wrote: "I love your review, it made me laugh and like you I believe that writers like everybody else have a right to express their views, if someone disagrees they can just not buy the book, instead of bas..."
I'm glad it made you laugh, MM Suarez! And I agree - if you don't like an author's politics, simply don't buy the book or read it. I don't understand the people who feel the need to give books that offend them a one star rating or bash the author/book in a review when they haven't even read it.
I'm glad you enjoyed this latest King offering too; he's such a fun author to read.
I'm glad it made you laugh, MM Suarez! And I agree - if you don't like an author's politics, simply don't buy the book or read it. I don't understand the people who feel the need to give books that offend them a one star rating or bash the author/book in a review when they haven't even read it.
I'm glad you enjoyed this latest King offering too; he's such a fun author to read.
Spot on review. Stephen King is who he is, and honestly I think his writing is better for it. (Parfaits are also, excuse the pun, dead to me.)
Robyn wrote: "Spot on review. Stephen King is who he is, and honestly I think his writing is better for it. (Parfaits are also, excuse the pun, dead to me.)"
I agree, Robyn! His writing wouldn't be as good if he wasn't who he was and tried to please everyone.
And thanks for the laugh about the parfaits being dead for you now! 🤣
I agree, Robyn! His writing wouldn't be as good if he wasn't who he was and tried to please everyone.
And thanks for the laugh about the parfaits being dead for you now! 🤣