Newsletter No.1: My Story: The Early Days
Newsletter No.1: My Story: The Early Days
Newsletter No.1: My Story: The Early Days
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SEPTEMBER 2011
The official newsletter for the updated biography, due for release in autumn 2012,
DESIRE: Paddy McAloons Prefab Sprout. Includes background notes from the
books research, extracts from interviews and related stories, quotes and
grapevine... contributions are welcome... what is it you wish to see in the book?
WORLD EXCLUSIVE NEW ALBUM !!!
In this issue:
Neil Conti: My story: the early days
Thomas Dolby: What happened to the 5th Sprout?
Broadway Review and Mash-up Videos planned for Paddy McAloon songs
Book launch to double as a Prefab Sprout Convention?
Tim Linnell discusses legendary, unavailable recordings
Classic Paddy McAloon quotes
What can you share or contribute as a fan?
JB: Take us back to the beginning, Neil. What started you off into a music career?
NC: I always knew I was going to do something in music. I actually started out with classical
piano when I was very small. I would be very uncomfortable if I wasnt doing it all the time to be
honest. I did a degree in graphics, more to keep my parents off my back. When you have got
something real in your blood it sort of helps you to make sense, without wanting to go to deep; it
helps you to sort of make sense of your existence, because you are doing something that feels
very natural, so its a never ending learning curve really.
PHOTO COURTESY OF JOE GRIMES
JB: Tell us how you moved from classical piano to drumming then.
NC: Well, I dont know. When I was studying classical piano I was six years old. The problem for me was, and because I
showed a lot of potential my parents were maybe a bit over-enthusiastic and I had to do hours of scales and exercises every day;
they kind of decided that I was going to be a concert pianist. With young kids, they are always more enthusiastic when they
have found out something for themselves, rather than be told they have to do something. If you tell kids that they have to do
something, you wont get a good reaction. So I was doing it, it was hard work. I had two teachers and they were both pretty
strict, and then the whole thing happened with my cousin. I dont know if you know about this, but my cousin Morgan Fisher
was in Mott the Hoople.
Basically, he was a keyboard player in a band called The Love Affair we are talking about the late 60s early 70s they had the
big hit Everlasting Love; I started seeing them on TV and remember thinking, Wow, that looks very exciting. Then he joined
Mott the Hoople and they recorded the song that Bowie penned for them, All the Young Dudes.
JB: Bowie?
NC: It was kind of ironic really. It went full circle and I ended up playing with Bowie. But that song ended up a hit and I started
to become interested in what was going on with him, and seeing him more on TV, then going to see him live. It was
phenomenal. I was, what, 12? I was standing on the side of the stage at a venue called Friars in Aylesbury, a famous old rock
venue. The band, Mott the Hoople had made their name on the live shows they put on a very high energy Glam Rock show,
it was almost punky in its attitude and really full on.
At Friars, if you stood at the side where the stage door was, youd actually find yourself in line with the drummer. The singer
seemed to stand a bit forward. The drummer was fantastic. He was one of the most underrated in England, his name was Dale
Griffin, and had the nickname Buffin. He actually ended up being a producer for the Radio One live shows done from the
Maida Vale studio, often recording bands for John Peel and various others. He ended up producing new bands. Anyway, he was
a fantastic drummer with a very impressive, sparkling drum kit. I remember looking at him and thinking, Thats fantastic.
Remember, when youre 12 you are impressed with stuff like that... and the funny story about that gig is that the support band,
was a young band just out of university called Queen. They were dreadful, really awful, and there was hardly anyone there. They
all turned up for Mott the Hoople, as no one had heard of Queen. They had only just started to play together, the singer had a
bit of an attitude, and the rest of them couldnt really play that well. It wasnt till much later they got their stuff together.
JB: So tell us about the gig...
NC: I went backstage at that gig and hung out with the band. The drummer was very chatty and friendly. I noticed he had all
the girls around him after the gig, which impressed me, as I was only 12. I thought, Ah, thats how you get the girls... play
drums. So that started the whole thing off with Morgan. I used to go and see him London and hang around in the studio which
was in St Johns Wood. I used to hang around with him and watch them recording and stuff and then I started playing on the
pots and pans, the old drummers clich. I used to get all the pots and pans out of the kitchen and whack them until my parents
finally gave in and bought me a cheap drum kit for about twenty quid, which was a lot of money back then. I started messing
around in my bedroom, like you do, and I would run home from school every day and bash away for an hour or two before
anyone came home. I used to have the neighbours come round and tell me to turn it down a bit, although when I had been
practising a year or so, they came round and said, Turn it down a bit by the way, youve improved. Its still a racket but its
less of a racket. So, like I was saying, if young kids find something they want to do, they will work at it. I was just obsessed with
it, I dont know why, it may be some rhythmic thing, I dont know. I just really took to it and really enjoyed it.
There is absolutely no truth in what people say, Oh, it must be so enjoyable to be able to let out all your frustrations on a drum
kit. Thats a complete fallacy; because when you play the drums you can get so much noise from it you can destroy the whole
band. Its the opposite its all about control and restraint really. So thats how I ended up playing the drums. I still play piano
now; I have always played a bit. I have come to more so recently, while I have been producing. I have played the keyboard on
quite a few things I have produced
JB: What was your first live engagement on drums?
NC: Oh my God, the first live thing I did was at school. I was about 15-16 we did Josephs Technicolour Dreamcoat. We did that in
the school hall, so it wasnt really a proper gig. There were about 20 people and we were miserable, but that was my first
experience of playing the drums in front of people. My first proper gig was in a village pub in Dunstable, which is near where I
am from in Bedfordshire. I cant tell you how I ended up there, with a guy who played the organ, with the foot pedals playing
the bass. I cant remember how I met him. Oh yes, it was in a music shop where there were drums. He used to play standards
like Tea For Two, Glen Miller, playing a few 60s-style lounge tunes. I remember I got told off by these old ladies because I was
playing with drumsticks and it was too loud. So I had to switch to playing with brushes, which was a great disappointment for
me, but there you go. I got paid half a lager and 1 thats what I got paid for the gig.
JB: Wow, big time!
NC: Yes. For me, it was massive. Its funny its all relative. I was more nervous about that than doing Live Aid with Bowie.
~o~
The Sondheim and Sweeney Todd connections dont stop there, either. On interviewing Hey, Manhattan! producer Andy
Richards, he recalls re-arranging Sondheims musical score for Tim Burtons film by the same name... and some insights into
how this chapter in Paddys life changed things forever...
~o~
FLASHBACK GALLERY
~o~
there, thinking, Wait a minute. Youre going to use your venture capital investment money to make content for me, that I
put on my site with my logo over it, and I get the credit for it and you also get me backstage to the next David Bowie gig?
It was like that for many years, but finally it got serious, and towards the end of the dotcom boom we chanced on a deal
with Nokia. Wed created a synthesiser a sound chip and when Nokia compared ours to others on the market, it was
found to be the most efficient at the time. Wed designed it to allow faster downloads from web pages. It was tiny; they
wanted to put it in their phones, so we sent engineers to Finland to work out how we could integrate it into their phones.
That was in 1999 and its been in every one of their phones since and in most of their competitors.
So basically, there are about three billion Beatnik synthesisers out there.
Beatnik finally became successful and I lost interest in it all together, really. I realised that Im not a great businessman
because I only really care about things when theyre sort of beginning and you dont really know what the heck you are
doing. You know, the moment you actually establish a regular business, and its all about sales and engineering and stuff
like that, I lose interest in it all together.
So I wanted to get back into music and I had some songs that I acquired over the years. Rather than just dive in, I thought
that I should reconnect with my audience and gave it my own shot as a musician, basically. So I decided to go out and play
live a bit and get back into the swing of things before I did any recording. So I put together a one-man show, where I was
messing around with some different tools so I could loop and layer songs live on stage. I played in quite small venues.
JB: Is it possible, do you think, for a Thomas Dolby/Paddy McAloon project any time soon?
TD: The last time I spoke with Paddy his health was such that, at the time, he couldnt really imagine going back into the
studio, so Im pleased to hear that hes doing something. The last time I spoke to him, he was having such a lot of trouble
with his hearing that it was really very painful for him to do much work. Everything sounded like it was in a gymnasium all
distorted so that was very distressing for me to hear.
Thomas Dolby is set to release his new album, Map of the Floating City, on
October 25th. In an interview from his web-group, he offered the following:
Firstly, I've decided to release the 'Oceanea' EP commercially the music from
the EP has been getting some radio play in the US and UK. Despite only being
available to a limited audience, there seems to be a growing interest in my new
music in the media and the public at large. Peoples responses to 'Oceanea' has
been so overwhelmingly positive. I've rarely seen so many superlative fan
reviews of a release. I evidently struck a nerve with this one! It's all good news
and I'd be foolish not to take full advantage of it.
But now here's something truly exciting and extraordinary. There's been a
change of strategy with regard to the proposed 3rd EP from the upcoming
album. I have said from the beginning that I wanted to let fans hear my work-inprogress on the new album 'A Map Of The Floating City' by releasing three EPs
prior to the album coming out. Well, for 'Urbanoia' I have decided to go one
better....
For the last six months, I've been developing an online multiuser event entitled
'The Floating City.' Call it a game, if you will, but it's nothing like a typical
computer game--it's more like a FES magical mystery tour. It will take place for
twelve weeks leading up to the full release of the album this summer. A
segment takes place in the continent of Urbanoia, and that's where the party
will be at when I'm ready to debut the songs from that segment. So you won't
need to buy a download of the 'Urbanoia' EP; but to hear it, you'll need to play
the game and find your way to the party. And that will be an intriguing journey
unlike anything you've experienced.
Imagine a curious, post-apocalyptic parallel world. In the wake of a terrible planetary catastrophe, a few stunned survivors
cling to what's left of the Earth's major landmasses. Technology has imploded, and all that's left are strewn relics of a
former age. Trying to escape the boiling temperatures, tribes of humans take to the oceans in the ghostly hulls of
abandoned ships. With no fuel available to power them, the vessels are only able to move across the sea by 'rafting up'.
Inevitably, gridlock forms, and the Floating City is born. A bizarre trading culture emerges. And the residents begin to piece
together the dark history of what led up to the disaster that hit their civilization.
As a player in the game, you'll be using familiar media like web pages, social networks, linking up with your friends
from Twitter and Facebook, to meet and collaborate with others to solve the enigma of The Floating City. This is not only
for gamers nor is it only for Dolby fans. It's an easy and fun way to explore and enjoy my music and lyrics from the early
1980s all the way up to the present day.
I'm extremely excited about this project, and it's very much an extension of the atmosphere and sentiments of the songs
on the new album. There are excellent graphics, done by Paul Sizer who art directed the two EPs (that's his charred map
fragment at the top of this message.) It also combines into a single framework the lyrics and music from my entire back
catalogue, all the way back to 'The Golden Age Of Wireless.' It's a natural extension of the eccentricity of The Flat Earth
Society, where over the years the frequent digression into Dolby-related fan fiction has been inspiring and bewildering!
There's been a lot of talk about the album's 'hidden theme', going back to the 'Amerikana' EP release last year. I can reveal
that both EPs to date, along with the 'Toad Lickers' iPhone app, have contained embedded clues that relate to the whole
Floating City enigma. Up to now, no-one seems to have been able to solve the riddles. (I wonder why?) This game will bring
all those clues together in a fascinating way. And yes, you will still be able to hear the 'Urbanoia' songs...if you and your
friends are able to discover them within the game. And if it's not to your taste, don't worry because all the music will
appear on the album when it comes out later in the year.
It is not a competitive game, per se, because it's not about individual prowess or high scores. No single player can 'win'
outright. However, nine tribes will collaborate and match their skills to try to solve the mystery of the Floating City, using
their knowledge and understanding of the music and lyrics. There will be rewards for all participants, including free music,
merch prizes, and a sneak peek at the songs you haven't heard yet. And for the most industrious tribe, there will be
a fabulous top prize: an invitation to attend an exclusive private concert at which my band and I will perform the album in
full.
~o~
one album and the next, and what cassettes there were are probably mostly rotting in landfill. Its been an absorbing hobby
for me certainly. For just over a year I have followed obscure clues and tracked sources down wherever they may be lurking
and as Ive done so the story of Prefab Sprout as a live band has emerged little by little.
Much of this is recorded on my website http://psgigs.wikispaces.com where Ive accumulated photos, details of recordings,
reviews and recollections and whatever I could find, though I cant host any recordings. If you have any live Sprout then
please do get in touch.
So where do we start? Well if we stick strictly to live performances, the earliest concert recording I know is of Paddy
McAloons early band Avalon playing to (as I am reliably informed by the bass player, who played me the tape), upwards of
10 people in a bar in the North East. At this point, Paddy played guitar and sang a little, and this tape allows you the
pleasure of hearing him cranking out covers of Brown Sugar, Sweet Jane and Wishing Well. Theres some Hall and Oates,
and other band compositions, but the most interesting material comprises early versions of Walk On, Silhouettes very
different from the later B side - and a 7 minute Paddy composed song called Marble Halls which seems to nod somewhat to
Peter Gabriel. For anyone who has ever dabbled in music, the interest of Avalon is mostly that they were the kind of band
many of us were ourselves in. Accessible, in a word. Blues scale noodling, crunchy guitar and sometimes out of tune vocals,
enjoyable on a night out probably, but they were a young pub band and not much more.
Paddy was quickly to outgrow Avalon, and in the next live tape we find the early Prefab Sprout and a band who were
clearly aiming higher. There are rumours of the existence of a complete soundboard tape of the 1980 Domefest
performance, but all Ive ever been able to find from that is a selection of songs including Tin Can Pot, Faron Young,
Spinning Belinda and Donna Summer. What comes across is a competent, tight, original group who had worked hard on
their playing and were now a force to be reckoned with on the local scene. Even at this point, Prefab Sprouts songs
seemed irreducible and together, and they were verging on power pop.
To many of their contemporary fans, this line up was the best ever, but by the time of the next recorded performance at
the Darlington Arts Centre in April 1983, considerable changes were underway. A single had been recorded, and Wendy
Smith had joined to general surprise, prompting one fan to comment that her restrained performance style and
contribution to the music made Bez from the Happy Mondays look like Mike Oldfield. This recording, and another from
June of the same year at El Hacienda are well worth a listen, and document a band in a state of transition from local
hopefuls to the next big thing. The El Hacienda tape provides the only live performance I am aware of the B Side Radio
Love, and the early staples Cherry Tree and Constant Blue are included on both recordings. There is also an early run
out for Horsechimes which was later to appear on Protest Songs.
They mark the end of Mick Salmons period on drums too, and the start of a Spinal Tap drummer procession.
1984 was to be the year Prefab Sprout emerged into the wide world, and they were booked into the ICA for the January
Rock Week in the company of Billy Bragg, Einsturzende Neubaten, and Bronski Beat amongst others. Expectations were
high and the rock press had gathered in force around the new darlings of post punk. The result is the stuff of legends and
nightmare: poor sound on the stage monitors and a leaden performance by Steve Dalder who had joined on drums created
a perfect storm in which the delicate tracery of Prefab Sprouts music was disastrously drowned in an out of tune
cacophony. So bad were they that Paddy was still apologizing during next London concert at the Savoy in February
The ICA gig was however recorded professionally, and three songs from it were broadcast on Capital Radio tapes of this
are preserved in the British Library. However despite extensive searching for a surviving copy off air, I have drawn a
complete blank. This is a true holy grail, so check your attics please! A full copy of the concert would be perhaps too much
to hope for.
The band did improve however, although Wendys vocals were often a bit hit and
miss. Dave Ruffy joined the procession of drummers for the gigs leading up to the
release of Swoon in March, and the best recording from this period is a very
reasonable audience tape from the February gig in Edinburgh.
What marks this period in more general terms is Paddys proficiency as a live
performer. He was confident, a little cocky even, and the evidence of a short
section of video material recorded at the Manchester Hacienda on the promotional
tour post Swoon, by which time Virginia Astley had been recruited on barely
evident keyboards and Neil Conti on drums, is that he had considerable presence
and attitude on stage. Indeed he cut an almost swaggering figure with his Gretsch
guitar and military jacket, which look was captured in a promotional photograph
that found its way onto many Xeroxed covers of Camden Market bootlegs. The
video material was filmed for the Bristol show, RPM, and may be viewed at the
National Film Library on request.
One final tape is worthy of note from this period. The audience recording of
Lancaster University is a fine piece of clandestine tape work and a worthy
document.
Diana was a staple in the set at this point and both opens and closes the concert, bookending an extensive selection of
songs from Swoon as well as a rocking Spinning Belinda. In many ways this closes the book on the formative years of
Prefab Sprout as a performing band, for they were about to enter the studio with Thomas Dolby to record the album that
would cement their credentials in the first rank of 1980s post punk bands, Steve McQueen.
Part Two out in November 2011.
Readers may contact Tim directly at prefabsprout2010@googlemail.com
~o~
Paddy in print...
"There is nothing wrong in being inspired by a book or an film, but to
follow a style slavishly or to look to other peoples achievements for
your starting ground is something you do when you are younger.
Then as you get older you should try and do something that is true
and then hope that maybe because you are saying it in a more
effective way it is becoming more truthful and simple.
The Irish Times, May 1984
"We're not subverting anyone. I listen to all sorts of junk and it doesn't affect me; I don't believe that you are what
you eat. I'm aware of instigators like Beefheart and Neil Young but I don't need to be fed truths all the time. Pop
music isn't an annexe of literature."
The Face, March 1984
Im always frightened when people say its poetry or poetic language. Some of the lyrics Ive got are more direct and are a
bit less intense and Ive got songs that are just a laugh. I work on instinct, on feeling; a lot of people have failed to pick that
up. Articles that have been done on us seem to think its a kind of clever whether thats a good or bad thing... people
never seem to realise that everything I do is instinct, even if I work at the lyric to try and get it right in the end its not my
mind Im appealing to, its the heart and the feeling it gives.
Debris Fanzine, August 1985
Something is up with us songwriters. I dont usually feel connected to the guard of the post-Costello generation,
Roddy Frame and all, like I said before, we are more weird, strange and awkward, but one thing recently affiliates
the new songwriters. We all write songs about songwriting. Weve all grown so conscious. From Greens Wood
Beez (Scritti Politti) to us. So much is true, but why?
Spex, September 1985
"Im not trying to recreate that old thing of the nine-to-five guy just doing a job who doesn't want to be bothered about
semantics. But I'd like to write something where the truth of the statement lies below the trumpeting of the lyric, and I
don't really know how you do it. 'That's very difficult now because this is the Eighties and weve probably never been this
self-conscious before."
The Guardian, March 1988
Wit and delicacy arent required by the industry today. The A&R men dont think the audience is there. I hate
most contemporary records. I hate the sound of them, I hate style of them. And if they had a smell Id hate that
too.
Vogue, September 1999
I know just how hip I am, and I'm not, in terms of the cover of this week's music press, but I am in terms of longevity. Now,
you can say it should be throwaway stuff, but the best of it lasts the best of it is covered in some form. You can only
assume people do a George Gershwin song or a Beatles song today because it's lasted in some way. If you're doing your job
properly, then your stuff would last as well. It's like: I don't think there's been anything much better written than West Side
Story."
Guitarist, September 1990
"Actually, when we started, we were a raucous three-piece rock band. We didnt have keyboards or loads of studio
facilities and technology, and a lot of what we do now is a reaction of those early days. I might wake up one day
soon and decide to make a record that works purely on the level of eccentric noise for three minutes, that doesn't
sound like anything else, just samples you never know.
Sky Magazine, January 1990