XP Is DEAD Now!
XP Is DEAD Now!
XP Is DEAD Now!
by askey127
Except for the last post, most of this thread is devoted to Methods of Rescuing computers currently using Windows XP, so they can be
safely used online, after Windows XP is no longer a safe Operating System to use.
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Note: This thread edited 1 Feb 2014 to add info on Linux Mint 16.
Also clarified copying of files from/to profile folders.
What's the real issue about Windows XP ?
• Horror Stories Coming Up.
Please be aware that Microsoft will terminate support of Windows XP/SP3 on April 8, 2014
That means it will no longer have updates and patches to prevent PC infections.
Once support is withdrawn by Microsoft, it will be impossible to secure the XP machine. It won't matter how many firewalls, anti-virus
scanners, or other security programs are installed.
Any XP machine that is online after that date will get infected repeatedly, and any useful information on it will likely be stolen. It will
NOT be fixable.
Expected would be cases of Financial / ID theft and Blackmail using Trojans and Keyloggers to intercept private information.
Criminals are reportedly making extra preparations for the date.
Don't wait for the XP system to get infected before you take action.
• What do you use the Machine for?
If the machine is used for Internet purchases, or to contact financial institutions, (banking, etc.) the XP issue is Extremely important. All of the
credit card or account information could be at risk.
If Debit card information is stolen, criminals may be able to empty a bank account remotely and disappear.
If there are multiple PCs on your network at home, steps need to be taken to prevent the XP machine from contaminating others on the Network.
This even if there is no critical information on the XP machine itself.
• What Personal Information has passed through or been stored Onboard?
You need to know all debit/credit card and financial account numbers and passwords, PINs, etc. that have been used on the machine.
This is especially true if you use a browser to save any account passwords.
If information is stolen, you may need to replace the accounts or change passwords.
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How to Determine What is Best To Do
• First Determine Your Processor Capability
Using any of the newest Linux systems, or Windows 7 or 8 will require a processor that supports both PAE and NX parameters
PAE is for support of "Physical Address Extension"; refers to the ability to support > 32 bit physical addresses
NX is for support of "No Execute Page Protect"
SSE2 is an additional parameter required by Windows 8
The Linux Mint 13 and Puppy Linux versions below do not require PAE or NX support to install and run.
You can find out what your processor supports by downloading Coreinfo
It's available here as a download: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/cc835722.aspx
Copy it to your hard drive into the C:\Windows\System32 folder.
Then go to Start > Run, type cmd into the box and hit <Enter>
When the black DOS box comes up, type coreinfo and <Enter>
It will show by asterisks which parameters are supported by your processor.
Windows 8 operates more like a Smartphone when it's paired with a touchscreen laptop or tablet.
Windows 8 is the least suited for retrofitting into an older machine, since it is fairly demanding of graphics and processor, and would have no
touch screen capability.
A guide on what to expect: http://www.makeuseof.com/pages/getting-started-your-guide-to-windows-8
Most users think that Windows 8, if used with a mouse and no-touch screen, is inferior to Windows 7.
Business users tend to prefer Windows 7, while Tablet and Laptop users with touch screens will like Windows 8 better.
Machine Checks - Even if the processor support is OK, you will need to run the Win 7 Upgrade Advisor, or Win 8 Upgrade Advisor to determine what
other issues may be present.
New operating systems are always sensitive to graphic and audio cards, for example.
• The Upgrade Advisors need to be downloaded and installed on the XP system first. Then running the program will produce an output file to
save/print, etc.
Some of your older 32-bit programs will not run on Win7/8 because the installers are programmed for specific folder locations that may not be
correct except in XP.
The Upgrade Advisors will attempt to determine which programs like that would not be re-installable after the Upgrade.
Data files and installed programs cannot be preserved when you upgrade from XP to Window 7 or Windows 8. They all will be erased and
need to be re-installed later..
Tell your CD burning program to "Create Disc from an image". Do not just copy the file to disk- it won't work.
Other Linux versions are designed to burn to DVD the same way.
It comes with Firefox and Libre Office, which can handle most MS Office files. Thunderbird e-mail is included. It also has good audio/video
players.
Installing Linux Mint over Win XP will erase everything on there, so all important documents, photos, music, etc., need to be saved on
separate media first.
Installing as a dual boot will preserve XP files, but backing them up first is still a good idea.
If your processor supports PAE, you may wish to use a newer version of Mint. The newer versions, however, are not yet guaranteed long
term support. Linux Mint 16 with Cinnamon desktop is excellent, efficient and attractive if you can use it. The lack of long term support
for a Linux version does not have the same Security implication it does for Windows. It mostly just limits new features.
As with other Live Linux Boot Disks, booting the machine from the Puppy CD is quite a secure method of doing online banking, or
online purchases, since the operating system is on CD and can't be altered. Any incoming information, like receipts, etc. can still be
saved to a USB flash drive during the process.
Zorin 6 is another candidate, which can set its desktop to look and feel like a Windows PC. Like Ubuntu it requires a PAE processor.
You can't see all the fancy features from the Live DVD, but you can get a general idea of what it does.
Zorin 6 is the Long term support version. Zorin comes with Chrome installed, and seems to be easy to configure wireless.
http://zorin-os.com/index.html
If you decide on Windows 8, and the upgrade advisor looks OK, you can follow the complete preparation and install instructions here:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/upgrade-from-windows-vista-xp-tutorial
The Home Premium version is available at retail stores or online everywhere. You will probably use the 32-bit version, same as XP.
In Windows XP, the most common browser and e-mail programs are Internet Explorer 8 and Outlook Express.
Neither of these is available for the later versions of Windows, so saving the settings requires a bit of extra effort.
We will use Firefox and Thunderbird as intermediaries to backup your settings from Internet Explorer and Outlook Express.
Be sure to save any Program installation discs so you can re-install later.
Also make a record of any installation keys needed.
If you have forgotten any Installation keys, Keyfinder may be helpful. ( http://www.magicaljellybean.com/ )
• Installation Procedure
If your machine has less than 1Gb of RAM, check whether increasing the amount of RAM would be easy to do.
If feasible, RAM cards are usually inexpensive, and effective for increasing speed.
You can check what RAM card slots are in your system, and what is installed, by using Speccy
You can download Speccy from here: http://www.piriform.com/speccy/download/standard
Either Win7 or Win8 will work, but struggle a bit, with 1GB total RAM, and work better with 2GB RAM.
Installing either Windows 7 or Windows 8 is pretty straightforward. Put the installation disk into the DVD drive and restart the machine.
It will take care of everything itself, and may reboot a couple times. It may ask whether you want to use the whole drive.
Answer Yes. When it finishes, allow it to stay online, but don't surf yet. It will get a lot of Automatic Updates, and install them.
If you chose Windows 7, and installed it, you need to also download and install Microsoft Security Essentials as an AntiVirus.
It's here: http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/
You can surf the web after it's installed.
Go to Control Panel. Click on Appearance and Personalization. In list, click Folder options
Under Hidden Files and Folders, check Show Hidden Files and Folders
Remove the check from Hide extensions of known file types
Remove the check from Hide protected operating system files (Recommended). Click Apply and OK.
Install Mozbackup and use it to restore your Firefox settings from the flash drive.
Windows 8 has its Antivirus built in, so you don't need another one.
Don't ever allow two antivirus programs on the machine at the same time
If you have chosen Windows 8, installed it, and find you miss the Start button, you can download and install the Classic Shell.
Classic Shell: http://www.classicshell.net/downloads/
From the Start screen, select the Control Panel app. Scroll to the bottom and select More Settings.
Click on Appearance and Personalization. Click on Folder Options, View tab.
Under Hidden Files and Folders, check Show Hidden Files and Folders
Remove the check from Hide extensions of known file types
Remove the check from Hide protected operating system files (Recommended). Click Apply and OK.
Install Mozbackup and use it to restore your Firefox settings from the flash drive.
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Changing to a Linux OS - Replacing XP
• Issues - Requirements
If you are able to boot the machine with a Linux Live CD/DVD, and connect to the Internet with it, you will likely be able to Install that version of
Linux without any difficulty.
Just be sure you follow the "Things to do in XP, before ... " below before performing the full installation.
It is recommended that you use a wired connection from your modem or router instead of wireless, during the installation.
After the installation is complete, your wireless can be used instead if desired..
In Windows XP, the most common browser and e-mail programs are Internet Explorer 8 and Outlook Express.
Neither of these is available in Linux systems, so saving the settings requires a bit of extra effort.
We will use Firefox and Thunderbird as intermediaries to backup your settings from Internet Explorer and Outlook Express.
Plug in a flash drive on which you will save your Thunderbird profile.
Detailed instructions are here: https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/profiles?s=Profiles&as=s
Use My Computer, and navigate to C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data
Right Click on the Thunderbird folder and copy. Then save it to the flash drive.
Plug in a flash drive on which to save your Firefox profile. Create a folder on it named FirefoxProfile or similar.
From the XP system, open this folder: C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles
You will see another folder with a name like 5jgv87h1.default (the alphanumeric label is generated by Firefox)
Double click that xxxxxx.default folder and copy all the files in it to the FirefoxProfile folder you created on the flash drive.
• Installing Replacement System from a Linux Live CD/DVD
Before You Begin, understand that Linux requires you to Type in your Username and your Password each time you boot.
It will not give you a choice of Usernames.
In addition, it may require your password to run certain programs on your machine (Update manager, Synaptics, etc.)
It is not simple to change your password as in Windows, so plan carefully.
It is recommended that you use a wired internet connection to your modem or router while you are installing Linux.
Some machines may require downloading the drivers for the wireless setup, and the installer needs to be on a wired connection to do it.
To Get Started - Boot your machine using the Live DVD from the Linux version of your choice.
This example is for Linux Mint. Ubuntu is nearly identical.
There will be a quick popup screen asking for username from the Live DVD. You can ignore it for now.
In a couple minutes the Mint desktop will appear.
On the Desktop, the Install Linux Mint option will be one of the Icons.
Click Install, and wait while the setup initializes itself.
First screen is for the Language > Continue
Check for Internet connection and Drive Space > Continue
After you boot into Linux, click the Menu > System and choose Update Manager
You will need to supply your password to start it. Let it download all the update packages and install them.
You may get a message that All packages could not be updated. Just close it.
The Update may take quite a while, depending on internet traffic. There will be hundreds of items.
Open Synaptic Package Manager and Install Thunderbird in the new OS. (It's pre-installed in Linux Mint)
Quit right after installation is complete. You may have to sign in with “Use my own e-mail account” to get Thunderbird to create a profile, but you
don't need anything except the account name and password. Don't look at your e-mails yet, or import any settings.
To see profiles in Linux, you may have to choose View in the file manager and click Show Hidden Files
Copy the Thunderbird profile files from your flash drive to the random named Profile folder in the new OS from the instructions.
Do not change the name of the new profile folder. Just overwrite all the files in it.
All your e-mail settings will be restored.
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Dual Booting Win XP and a Linux OS
• Pros and Cons of Dual Booting
By removing partitions for extra drives (E:, F:, etc.) used by Windows XP, and/or reducing the size of the C: drive to make some unassigned space,
there will probably be room to Install Linux as a Dual Boot.
Tools like Mydefrag and then Mini Tool Partition Wizard are used to accomplish this.
Then a Linux version can be installed as a dual boot, using a Linux Live DVD.
By doing this, the machine will be able to start and run Either Windows XP or Linux at boot up.
The Windows XP system would operate normally until April, then still function normally except for functions requiring Internet access. Windows XP
would be taken off the internet in April 2014 for safety, but Linux would be able to access the Internet readily, and would have access to the XP
files. The Linux system will still be able to access any Windows Documents, Music, Photos, etc., and can serve the User on the Internet with its
own e-mail, Office, photo, or browser programs, but will not be able to run any specific programs located on the XP side of the system. The
Windows XP side of the system will not be able to see any files at all on the Linux side of the system. Any files developed on the Linux system
and required by XP, would have to be transferred to the XP system with flash drives, etc.
This dual boot option is more complicated to install than simply replacing Windows XP, but may be worth it, especially for those who need extra
time to offload or backup XP files.
Download Mini Tool Partition Wizard Home Edition from here: http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
You will get sent to Download.com
Sometimes Download.com, or CNET, will include adware in the download.
In this case, the installer appears to be clean. Download and install it.
Once all Extra partitions have been removed, If the Unallocated Space is still not enough, it will be necessary to shrink the size of the C: partition.
On machines where the C: drive occupies the entire drive, and is the only drive on there, you will be starting out here.
Check the Unused column for the C: partition. You can shrink by an amount that is approx. 10Gb less than that. That is, if there is 40Gb unused in
the C: partition, you can safely shrink it by about 30GB.
It is recommended that you use a wired internet connection to your modem or router while you are installing Linux.
Some machines may require downloading the drivers for the wireless setup, and the installer needs to be on a wired connection to do it.
To Get Started - Boot your machine using the Live DVD from the Linux version of your choice.
This example is for Linux Mint. Ubuntu is nearly identical.
There will be a quick popup screen asking for username from the Live DVD. You can ignore it for now.
In a couple minutes the Mint desktop will appear.
On the Desktop, the Install Linux Mint option will be one of the Icons.
Click Install, and wait while the setup initializes itself.
First screen is for the Language > Continue
Check for Internet connection and Drive Space > Continue
Next Screen has three options that will show:
• Install Linux Mint Alongside MS Windows XP <==
• Replace Windows XP with Linux Mint
• Something Else
Click the first option button (Install.. Alongside..), and click Install Now
Next Screen is "Where are you". Click zone and Continue
Next Screen is Keyboard layout. Check the one you want and Continue
The next screen needs to be filled out with care (User/password, etc.)
Your Name:
Computer Name:
UserName:
Password:
Password confirm:
> Continue
Select any accounts to Import on next screen. (Recommend "Nothing") > Continue
Up comes a slide show while Linux installs.
The first time you boot into Linux, click the Menu > System and choose Update Manager
You will need to supply your password to start it.
Let it download all the update packages and install them.
You may get a message that All packages could not be updated. Just close it.
The Update may take quite a while, depending on internet traffic. There will be hundreds of items.
• Turning off Networking in the XP system, in early April 2014
In XP, go to Start > Control Panel > Network Connections
In the Internet Connection List, right click each entry, and choose Disable.
Don't be tempted to turn any Networking back ON.
If you wish to transfer your settings for Firefox and Thunderbird from the XP system to the Linux system, you can use the Instructions from the post
above : Changing to a Linux OS – Replacing XP to do it
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Getting a New Win7/Win8 Machine
Just a few notes about getting a new Machine:
This is the quickest solution to the problem. Newer machines are much faster than the old ones and can get you working immediately.
It is also the most expensive option, since you are getting a whole new set of hardware.
Windows 8 laptops, or tablets, or convertibles will be best for those accustomed to the operation of touch screens, as in Smartphones and e-readers
Buying a new Windows 8 computer without a touch screen has not proven to be as good a choice, based on anecdotal posts.
For Windows 8, a touch screen is a prudent choice.
Desktop PCs are the area where Windows 8 is the most controversial, since they use monitors instead of touch screens
Windows 7 is well suited for desktops, where keyboard and mouse operation is the norm.
Most Windows 7 PCs still available are designed for business use, and are to be found online, instead of at brick and mortar stores.
Some business computers are offered with both Win7 and Win8 available; one system installed, and a provision to install the other instead.
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