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Gary,
Thank you for your Qme this morning. ARached are two pdf files. One file has the frontage road to the west.
The other has both concepts to the east in the same file. MDOT can do some geotechnical invesQgaQon of
the hill to the west. Do you know if the property owner would allow MDOT on their property?
Amy Mood, PE
Assistant Chief Engineer PreconstrucQon
Mississippi Department of TransportaQon
phone: (601)359-7007
mailto:amood@mdot.state.ms.us
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Subject: FW: Amended and Restated Agreement for Highway 25 Improvements
Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 at 3:00:16 PM Central Daylight Time
From: Coleman, Tom
To: Mood, Amy
CC: McGrath, Melinda, McConnell, Mark
A8achments: Highway25 bond amended and restated MOU - Redlined 6.17.14.doc
Please look at the changes. I fear that Flowood wants to do a favor for someone.
Tom: ATached is a draU with my mark-ups to the Agreement. You will note that the City wants to handle
engineering funcWons in regard to uWlity relocaWon and project construcWon.
Lem
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Mr. Adams, you likely know that MDOT wants to amend the exisWng agreement with Flowood to allow use of
the $4.9 Million in GO bonds for construcWon, in addiWon to property acquisiWon. I am supposing that your
client will be amenable to that, since it will not cost the City anything but will help bring the project to
fruiWon.
The legislaWon is poorly worded, since it seems to envision that the work will be carried out by Flowood as a
Local Public Agencies project, when of course no one expects a city to carry out a project that expensive.
However, we sWll have to comply with the spirit of the law and, at least to some extent, the leTer of the law.
However, we sWll have to comply with the spirit of the law and, at least to some extent, the leTer of the law.
To that end I have craUed an amended and restated agreement, and aTach a draU of it.
Of course our main concern is that we not do anything that would violate the terms of the issue, and
therefore make the bonds taxable. I have sent a copy of the agreement to DFA’s counsel for her thoughts, but
as yet have not goTen a response.
I will be grateful if you will give me the benefit of your ideas and comments.
Thomas S. Coleman
Special Assistant ATorney General
601.359.7760
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AMENDED AND RESTATED
MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT
BETWEEN
THE MISSISSIPPI TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION
AND
THE CITY OF FLOWOOD, MISSISSIPPI
PROJECT NO. SP-0056-01(087)/104101-201000
WITNESSSETH:
WHEREAS, the portion of Highway 25 located within the City has experienced
substantial growth during recent years, with the construction of retail establishments, restaurants,
banks, and other businesses, to the extent that traffic congestion has made travel on Highway 25
challenging; and
WHEREAS, the Commission and the City have a joint responsibility to maximize the
safety and convenience of the traveling public and, pursuant to this responsibility, wish to
consider widening the section of Highway 25 between State Route 475 and State Route 471 from
four lanes to six lanes; and
WHEREAS, in an effort to assist the parties hereto in their efforts to improve the
transportation infrastructure in Rankin County, the Mississippi Legislature, in Senate Bill 2913
of the 2013 Regular Session, created a special fund within the State Treasury designated the
“2013 City of Flowood Mississippi Highway 25 Improvement Fund,” hereinafter referred to on
occasion as “the Fund; and
WHEREAS, the described Senate Bill 2913 authorized issuance of bonds in an amount
not to exceed Four Million, Nine Hundred Thousand Dollars ($4,900,000) to be deposited into
the Fund and used, inter alia, for the construction and reconstruction of Highway 25; and
WHEREAS, the parties deem it to be in the best interests of the State of Mississippi and
its citizens to utilize the proceeds deposited into the Fund to commence the purchase of right-of-
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way and related property interests, and to pay for the adjustment and relocation of utilities, in the
area between State Route 475 and a point five hundred feet (500’) east of Grants Ferry Road, as
well as for other costs related to the construction and reconstruction of Mississippi Highway 25;
and
WHEREAS, the Commission, through MDOT’s Local Public Agencies Division, and
the City desire to work in coordination and cooperation with each other in a
government-to-government relationship for the benefit of both parties; and
WHEREAS, on October 10, 2013 the Commission and the City entered into an
agreement under which the Commission was to acquire certain right-of-way and other property
interests along Highway 25 within the corporate limits of the City; and
WHEREAS, the parties now wish to amend and restate that earlier agreement to allow
expenditure of funds from the 2013 City of Flowood Mississippi Highway 25 Improvement Fund Deleted: 4
(“the Fund”) for the adjustment and relocation of utilities; and
NOW, THEREFORE, in consideration of the mutual covenants and promises set forth
herein, and other good and valuable consideration, the Commission and the City do hereby agree
as follows:
I. PURPOSE
The purpose of this Agreement is to establish and define the respective responsibilities
and obligations of the Commission and the City with respect to their joint and cooperative efforts
to acquire right-of-way and related property interests, and to adjust and relocate utilities, for the
construction and reconstruction of Highway 25 within the City. The earlier agreement is hereby Deleted: of Flowood
amended in its entirety as follows.
It is understood by both parties that the Commission executes all its orders and directives
through the Executive Director MDOT. It is understood by both parties that the City executes all
of its orders and directives through its Mayor.
Unless otherwise notified in writing to the contrary, the appropriate contact person for the
Commission for matters pertaining to this Memorandum of Agreement shall be:
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Unless otherwise notified in writing to the contrary, the appropriate contact person for the
City for matters pertaining to this Agreement shall be:
Gary Rhoads
Mayor
Post Office Box 320069
Flowood, Mississippi 39232-0069
Telephone: 601-939-4243
It is understood and agreed that this Agreement is nothing more than a Memorandum of
Agreement, and that its provisions may be superseded by state and federal laws, regulations,
rules, and policies.
1. On behalf of the City, utilizing funds deposited into Fund to acquire, or provide Deleted: the 2013 City of Flowood Mississippi Highway 25
Improvement
for the acquisition of, right-of-way and related property interests, and to provide
for the adjustment and relocation of utilities along Highway 25 within the
municipal boundaries of the City of Flowood as part of the construction of Project
No. SP-0056-01(087)/104101-201000 (“the Project”) beginning at State Route
475 and ending at a point five hundred feet (500’) east of Grants Ferry Road.
2. To utilize the monies deposited into the Fund and made available to the
Commission exclusively for the purchase of property interests and relocation of
utilities pursuant to the plans and specifications for the Project, as well as for
construction and other costs related to the construction and reconstruction of
Highway 25 within the City of Flowood, in the discretion of and in accordance
with MDOT’s Local Public Agencies Division.
3. Utilizing its usual procedures, to enter into any and all necessary and appropriate
utility engineering agreements and utility agreements, in the Commission’s name,
which are required to complete the adjustment and relocation of utilities on the
Project.
4. From and after the effective date of this Agreement, to provide, through MDOT’s
Local Public Agencies Division, monthly reports to the City on the progress of the
right-of-way acquisition and utility adjustment and relocation, and the expenditure
of assets from the Fund for these activities and other activities related to the
construction and reconstruction of Highway 25.
5. To provide the City with copies of the right-of-way plans, including any and all
modifications thereto within ten (10) days from the effective date hereof.
6. To provide the City with copies of maps/plats and descriptions within ten (10)
days hereof or upon completion.
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7. To reimburse the City from the Fund for costs incurred in performance of its
responsibilities set forth in Paragraph III.B.6 below.
1. To act as the Local Public Agency for utility relocation and engineering
supervision and inspection for the purposes of this Agreement and the Project.
2. To take all steps required by any entity, including the Mississippi Department of
Finance and Administration and the State Bond Commission, to effect the
issuance of bonds in the amount of Four Million, Nine Hundred Thousand Dollars
($4,900,000) to fund the 2013 City of Flowood Mississippi Highway 25
Improvement Fund as authorized by Senate Bill 2913 of the 2013 Regular Session
of the Mississippi Legislature.
3. To allow the Commission to act on its behalf, and to directly utilize the assets in
the Fund to acquire right-of-way and related property interests, provide for the
adjustment and relocation of utilities, and perform other activities related to the
construction and reconstruction along Highway 25 within the City’s boundaries in
the discretion of and in accordance with MDOT’s Local Public Agencies
Division.
7. To submit reimbursement requests periodically, but no more often than once per
month, in the proper form and with the requisite documentation to enable the
Commission to transfer the funds allocated for the purposes herein. Deleted:
IV. AMENDMENTS
This Agreement may be amended in writing as mutually agreed upon by the parties.
V. SEVERABILITY
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VI. GENERAL PROVISIONS
A. This Agreement is intended to amend and restate the agreement between the parties
which was entered into effective October 10, 2013, and approved by the Commission as reflected
at Minute Book 18, Page 891. All provisions of that earlier agreement remain in effect unless
specifically modified hereby. No ongoing contract, proffered contract, negotiation, or other
relationship whatsoever, with any party, shall be affected by any provision of this Agreement.
B. The Commission has no funds available at this time to dedicate to the Project other than
the assets in the Fund. Completion of the Project will be contingent on funding being provided
by the Mississippi Legislature, the Federal Highway Administration, or some other source.
C. MDOT will utilize its usual property acquisition procedures to acquire the right-of-way
and other property interests, and all such interests will be acquired and held in the name of the
Commission.
D. In the event that the proceeds deposited into the 2013 City of Flowood Mississippi
Highway 25 Improvement Fund are not exhausted after acquisition of all necessary property
interests and relocation of utilities as addressed herein, the remaining funds may be utilized by
the Commission for construction or other purposes related to the construction and reconstruction
of Highway 25 within the City’s boundaries in accordance with MDOT’s Local Public Agency Deleted: L.
Division policy. Deleted:
E. This Agreement shall be subject to termination at any time upon thirty (30) days written
notice by either party for any reason or no reason. Termination will not affect any then-existing
contract with any outside party, including a unilateral contract for the purchase of property or a
contract for adjustment or relocation of any utility.
G. All contracts and subcontracts shall include a provision for compliance with “The
Mississippi Employment Protection Act,” as published in the General Laws of 2008 and codified
in Section 71-11-3 of the Mississippi Code of 1972, as amended. Under this Act the
Commission, the City, and every contractor or subcontractor shall register with and participate in
a federal work authorization program operated by the United States Department of Homeland
Security to electronically verify information of newly hired employees pursuant to the
Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, Pub.L. 99-603, 110 Stat. 3359, as amended.
A. The Commission and the City are separate public agencies, and each, in accordance with
its status as an independent agency, covenants and agrees that it will conduct itself consistent
with such status, that it will neither hold itself out as, or claim to be, an agent, officer, or
employee of the other by reason hereof. The employees, agents, and contractors of MDOT and
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the City will not by reason hereof make any claim, demand, or application for any right or
privilege applicable to an officer or employee of the other, including but not limited to workers’
compensation coverage, unemployment insurance benefits, social security coverage, retirement
membership or credit, or any form of tax withholding whatsoever.
B. No provision of this Agreement is intended, nor shall it be construed, to grant any right,
title, or interest to any person or entity not a signatory hereto.
A. The Commission, MDOT, and all of their agents, officials, and employees have no
obligations or responsibilities toward the activities conducted under this Agreement except those
specifically stated herein, and have no authority to select, employ, supervise, or control any
contractor employed by the City, or any employee, agent, or official of the City, or any of the
City’s contractors or subcontractors.
B. The Commission will not be a party to any contract or subcontract entered into by the
City, other than this Agreement.
C. The City will indemnify the Commission and hold it harmless to the extent allowed by
Section 65-1-75 of Miss. Code Ann. (1972), as amended.
By: ______________________________________
Gary Rhoads, Mayor
MISSISSIPPI TRANSPORTATION
COMMISSION, by and through the duly
authorized Executive Director of the Mississippi
Department of Transportation
By: ______________________________________
Melinda L. McGrath, P.E., Executive Director
Mississippi Department of Transportation
Recorded at Book ____, Page _______, of the Minutes of the Mississippi Transportation
Commission.
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Subject: FW: Emailing: JMH Property
Date: Friday, September 26, 2014 at 11:18:45 AM Central Daylight Time
From: Mood, Amy
To: McGrath, Melinda, Arnemann, Michael B
A6achments: JMH Property.jpg, Lakeland Land.pdf, eastFrontage.pdf
Melinda,
Just to be clear, did you want a cost esQmate on both frontage road concepts shown in the aRached pdf
eastFrontage.pdf or just one of them. I thought during the meeQng yesterday morning that we were discussing only
the concept parallel to Lakeland, but once I saw what Josh Harkins sent, I wasn't sure.
Thank you,
Amy
-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Harkins [mailto:joshharkins@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:05 AM
To: Mood, Amy
Cc: McGrath, Melinda
Subject: Emailing: JMH Property
Amy
This a general descripQon of property. If you have any quesQons please call me at . I do have a church
interested in property but no contract has been signed yet.
Josh
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Subject: FW: Dogwood Access Road
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 2:41:19 PM Central Daylight Time
From: Garry Miller
To: Gary Rhoads
Here is the email that I received concerning the frontage road from Amy. I have a call in to her to see if
anything has changed.
Gary,
I am well. It is my understanding there will be no frontage road. That is how we leN it when we met with the
mayor and I have not heard otherwise.
Amy Mood, PE
Assistant Chief Engineer PreconstrucSon
Mississippi Department of TransportaSon
phone: (601)359-7007
mailto:amood@mdot.state.ms.us
Amy,
Good aNernoon hope you’re doing well.
Can you give me the status of the Dogwood connector road and the route y’all chose to construct along with
the Smeline for construcSon? The City will have uSlity relocaSon for either route.
Thanks
Garry
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Subject: FW: Dogwood Access Road...
Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 1:33:44 PM Central Daylight Time
From: Garry Miller
To: McDaniel, Kirk
CC: Gary Rhoads, Lem Adams
A8achments: Preliminary Roadway Layout.pdf
Here is the proposed access to Lakeland through Dogwood. Route A is the preferred at this point. Please
review and give me your comments. I would not circulate this unQl we’ve had a chance to get with MDOT. If
they concur this is a viable opQon then we can arrange meeQngs with both HOA’s
I have not had a chance to ride out there to look around but a[ached is a couple of opQons based on the
informaQon that I had available. I like Connector Road “A” because I believe that we would be far enough
away from the Dogwood entrance and we would not be crossing the ditch shown which is shown on the
Quad as a blue line stream. Not much required as far as permiang a crossing but sQll would be best not to
cross it from a cost standpoint. A couple of other things to menQon:
• I assume that a new gate would be required and showed it in a locaQon that would work if Harkins
ever develops the remainder of his property. We would need to work out in the agreement that no
connecQons to adjacent property is allowed on the Dogwood side of the gate. Could leave a 1’ strip
there that is owned by Dogwood or the City to accomplish this as well.
• I show making the bend in Dogwood a “T” intersecQon (3 way stop) as I think this would be the
safest way due to the sharpness of that curve and Oakridge traffic having to cut across to use the new
exit.
• Has MDOT said that they would be willing to allow a light at this median cut? I’d be surprised if this
met warrants.
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Subject: RE: Dogwood Access Road...
Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 2:15:30 PM Central Daylight Time
From: Lem Adams
To: Garry Miller, McDaniel, Kirk
CC: Gary Rhoads
Garry: My immediate concern is based upon my assumpLon that the roadway would be gated/private for the
sole use by the residents of Dogwood and Oakridge and NOT a public road. The expenditure of public funds
for private use may be problemaLc.
Lem
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Here is the proposed access to Lakeland through Dogwood. Route A is the preferred at this point. Please
review and give me your comments. I would not circulate this unLl we’ve had a chance to get with MDOT. If
they concur this is a viable opLon then we can arrange meeLngs with both HOA’s
I have not had a chance to ride out there to look around but adached is a couple of opLons based on the
informaLon that I had available. I like Connector Road “A” because I believe that we would be far enough
away from the Dogwood entrance and we would not be crossing the ditch shown which is shown on the
Quad as a blue line stream. Not much required as far as permiing a crossing but sLll would be best not to
cross it from a cost standpoint. A couple of other things to menLon:
• I assume that a new gate would be required and showed it in a locaLon that would work if Harkins
ever develops the remainder of his property. We would need to work out in the agreement that no
connecLons to adjacent property is allowed on the Dogwood side of the gate. Could leave a 1’ strip
there that is owned by Dogwood or the City to accomplish this as well.
• I show making the bend in Dogwood a “T” intersecLon (3 way stop) as I think this would be the
safest way due to the sharpness of that curve and Oakridge traffic having to cut across to use the new
exit.
• Has MDOT said that they would be willing to allow a light at this median cut? I’d be surprised if this
met warrants.
I can revise as needed. This drawing is to get the conversaLon going and comments from you. Let me know
the changes you would like to make or we can meet and discuss.
Garry, that is basically what we discussed at our DPHA board meeNng last night because we had found out
through Gary Herring that MDOT was offering to buy Josh’s property to give us and Oak Ridge access to the
crossover that is permissible to be signalized. No discussion was held regarding how Oak Ridge would get
there but the connectors make sense and we figured something along those lines. Josh Harkins and I talked
about this a couple of years ago when he was offering to sell Dogwood the land for access anNcipaNng this
dilemma. The boYom line of our discussion ended with a hopeful desire of convincing MDOT to waive their
“every other cut through” regulaNon for signalizaNon and signalize the one coming out of the neighborhoods.
Here are some of the concerns I see with going east. Lem might weigh in here. I am not sure we can legally do
that without buying the house that would end up outside Dogwood. The Fratkins house sits by itself on the
north side of the road and to do what is shown I believe would change the legal descripNon of the Dogwood
property and as an owner, I think they could raise all kinds of issues being summarily excluded from the
neighborhood by geography. The second big issue is how we can keep the neighborhood private through
there when we use city and state money to buy the land and build the road. The third issue is that access
would be through the middle of a parking lot of a church. I know Josh retained an easement but do we really
want 2 neighborhoods going through a parking lot to access a light. Especially on Sundays and Wednesdays
when services are in progress. That really sounds more like a temporary fix than a permanent soluNon.
I expressed to the board last night the help and concern the city has shown for the safety of folks in the
neighborhoods in trying to work out a soluNon and they all expressed appreciaNon. It really is a safety issue
for folks, especially those in their 70’s and 80’s, and the last thing any of us wants is to aYend a funeral for a
neighbor kills while trying to cross the road.
That being said, all soluNons are sNll in play and I hope we can meet with Melinda as a group with a couple of
folks from each neighborhood to work on what is best to keep everyone safe.
Here is the proposed access to Lakeland through Dogwood. Route A is the preferred at this point. Please
review and give me your comments. I would not circulate this unNl we’ve had a chance to get with MDOT. If
they concur this is a viable opNon then we can arrange meeNngs with both HOA’s
• I assume that a new gate would be required and showed it in a locaNon that would work if Harkins
ever develops the remainder of his property. We would need to work out in the agreement that no
connecNons to adjacent property is allowed on the Dogwood side of the gate. Could leave a 1’ strip
there that is owned by Dogwood or the City to accomplish this as well.
• I show making the bend in Dogwood a “T” intersecNon (3 way stop) as I think this would be the
safest way due to the sharpness of that curve and Oakridge traffic having to cut across to use the new
exit.
• Has MDOT said that they would be willing to allow a light at this median cut? I’d be surprised if this
met warrants.
I can revise as needed. This drawing is to get the conversaNon going and comments from you. Let me know
the changes you would like to make or we can meet and discuss.
You were quicker on the draw but that seems to me to be a problem also. The whole front secQon of
Dogwood would have to be dedicated to the city which sQll leaves the outside. I would like to see a soluQon
here but it just doesn’t seem to be really workable with all the hurdles facing us.
Garry: My immediate concern is based upon my assumpQon that the roadway would be gated/private for the
sole use by the residents of Dogwood and Oakridge and NOT a public road. The expenditure of public funds
for private use may be problemaQc.
Lem
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Here is the proposed access to Lakeland through Dogwood. Route A is the preferred at this point. Please
review and give me your comments. I would not circulate this unQl we’ve had a chance to get with MDOT. If
they concur this is a viable opQon then we can arrange meeQngs with both HOA’s
I have not had a chance to ride out there to look around but ahached is a couple of opQons based on the
informaQon that I had available. I like Connector Road “A” because I believe that we would be far enough
away from the Dogwood entrance and we would not be crossing the ditch shown which is shown on the
Quad as a blue line stream. Not much required as far as permilng a crossing but sQll would be best not to
cross it from a cost standpoint. A couple of other things to menQon:
• I assume that a new gate would be required and showed it in a locaQon that would work if Harkins
ever develops the remainder of his property. We would need to work out in the agreement that no
connecQons to adjacent property is allowed on the Dogwood side of the gate. Could leave a 1’ strip
there that is owned by Dogwood or the City to accomplish this as well.
• I show making the bend in Dogwood a “T” intersecQon (3 way stop) as I think this would be the
safest way due to the sharpness of that curve and Oakridge traffic having to cut across to use the new
exit.
• Has MDOT said that they would be willing to allow a light at this median cut? I’d be surprised if this
met warrants.
I can revise as needed. This drawing is to get the conversaQon going and comments from you. Let me know
the changes you would like to make or we can meet and discuss.
When the concept of using the access across Harkins property was menOon the Mayor asked Greg to look at
a route from Dogwood and Oak Ridge to Lakeland Drive. This is no way a finish project it’s intent is to start
dialog with the homeowners and the MDOT. The intent is that the road would be a private road from the new
gate that is shown in the plan sheet and could be public from that point back to Lakeland. There are a couple
of lots that currently has access due to the ingress and egress across the church property that would benefit.
Now that you have seen this I would like for us to meet with the Mayor and Lem to discuss these concerns
and send the alignment to MDOT to start discussions with them.
Garry
Garry, that is basically what we discussed at our DPHA board meeOng last night because we had found out
through Gary Herring that MDOT was offering to buy Josh’s property to give us and Oak Ridge access to the
crossover that is permissible to be signalized. No discussion was held regarding how Oak Ridge would get
there but the connectors make sense and we figured something along those lines. Josh Harkins and I talked
about this a couple of years ago when he was offering to sell Dogwood the land for access anOcipaOng this
dilemma. The boaom line of our discussion ended with a hopeful desire of convincing MDOT to waive their
“every other cut through” regulaOon for signalizaOon and signalize the one coming out of the neighborhoods.
Here are some of the concerns I see with going east. Lem might weigh in here. I am not sure we can legally do
that without buying the house that would end up outside Dogwood. The Fratkins house sits by itself on the
north side of the road and to do what is shown I believe would change the legal descripOon of the Dogwood
property and as an owner, I think they could raise all kinds of issues being summarily excluded from the
neighborhood by geography. The second big issue is how we can keep the neighborhood private through
there when we use city and state money to buy the land and build the road. The third issue is that access
would be through the middle of a parking lot of a church. I know Josh retained an easement but do we really
want 2 neighborhoods going through a parking lot to access a light. Especially on Sundays and Wednesdays
when services are in progress. That really sounds more like a temporary fix than a permanent soluOon.
I expressed to the board last night the help and concern the city has shown for the safety of folks in the
neighborhoods in trying to work out a soluOon and they all expressed appreciaOon. It really is a safety issue
for folks, especially those in their 70’s and 80’s, and the last thing any of us wants is to aaend a funeral for a
neighbor kills while trying to cross the road.
That being said, all soluOons are sOll in play and I hope we can meet with Melinda as a group with a couple of
folks from each neighborhood to work on what is best to keep everyone safe.
Thanks for looking into this.
Kirk
Here is the proposed access to Lakeland through Dogwood. Route A is the preferred at this point. Please
review and give me your comments. I would not circulate this unOl we’ve had a chance to get with MDOT. If
they concur this is a viable opOon then we can arrange meeOngs with both HOA’s
I have not had a chance to ride out there to look around but aaached is a couple of opOons based on the
informaOon that I had available. I like Connector Road “A” because I believe that we would be far enough
away from the Dogwood entrance and we would not be crossing the ditch shown which is shown on the
Quad as a blue line stream. Not much required as far as permilng a crossing but sOll would be best not to
cross it from a cost standpoint. A couple of other things to menOon:
• I assume that a new gate would be required and showed it in a locaOon that would work if Harkins
ever develops the remainder of his property. We would need to work out in the agreement that no
connecOons to adjacent property is allowed on the Dogwood side of the gate. Could leave a 1’ strip
there that is owned by Dogwood or the City to accomplish this as well.
• I show making the bend in Dogwood a “T” intersecOon (3 way stop) as I think this would be the
safest way due to the sharpness of that curve and Oakridge traffic having to cut across to use the new
exit.
• Has MDOT said that they would be willing to allow a light at this median cut? I’d be surprised if this
met warrants.
I can revise as needed. This drawing is to get the conversaOon going and comments from you. Let me know
the changes you would like to make or we can meet and discuss.
I will get with the Mayor and Lem and get a day and Lme
Thanks
I agree that is the next step. I’m available for a meeLng just about any Lme. Earlier in the morning or later in
the evening is generally be\er because of work but I can make it any Lme I’m in town. Thank, Kirk
When the concept of using the access across Harkins property was menLon the Mayor asked Greg to look at
a route from Dogwood and Oak Ridge to Lakeland Drive. This is no way a finish project it’s intent is to start
dialog with the homeowners and the MDOT. The intent is that the road would be a private road from the new
gate that is shown in the plan sheet and could be public from that point back to Lakeland. There are a couple
of lots that currently has access due to the ingress and egress across the church property that would benefit.
Now that you have seen this I would like for us to meet with the Mayor and Lem to discuss these concerns
and send the alignment to MDOT to start discussions with them.
Garry
Garry, that is basically what we discussed at our DPHA board meeLng last night because we had found out
through Gary Herring that MDOT was offering to buy Josh’s property to give us and Oak Ridge access to the
crossover that is permissible to be signalized. No discussion was held regarding how Oak Ridge would get
there but the connectors make sense and we figured something along those lines. Josh Harkins and I talked
about this a couple of years ago when he was offering to sell Dogwood the land for access anLcipaLng this
dilemma. The bo\om line of our discussion ended with a hopeful desire of convincing MDOT to waive their
“every other cut through” regulaLon for signalizaLon and signalize the one coming out of the neighborhoods.
Here are some of the concerns I see with going east. Lem might weigh in here. I am not sure we can legally do
that without buying the house that would end up outside Dogwood. The Fratkins house sits by itself on the
north side of the road and to do what is shown I believe would change the legal descripLon of the Dogwood
property and as an owner, I think they could raise all kinds of issues being summarily excluded from the
neighborhood by geography. The second big issue is how we can keep the neighborhood private through
there when we use city and state money to buy the land and build the road. The third issue is that access
would be through the middle of a parking lot of a church. I know Josh retained an easement but do we really
want 2 neighborhoods going through a parking lot to access a light. Especially on Sundays and Wednesdays
when services are in progress. That really sounds more like a temporary fix than a permanent soluLon.
I expressed to the board last night the help and concern the city has shown for the safety of folks in the
neighborhoods in trying to work out a soluLon and they all expressed appreciaLon. It really is a safety issue
for folks, especially those in their 70’s and 80’s, and the last thing any of us wants is to a\end a funeral for a
neighbor kills while trying to cross the road.
That being said, all soluLons are sLll in play and I hope we can meet with Melinda as a group with a couple of
folks from each neighborhood to work on what is best to keep everyone safe.
Here is the proposed access to Lakeland through Dogwood. Route A is the preferred at this point. Please
review and give me your comments. I would not circulate this unLl we’ve had a chance to get with MDOT. If
they concur this is a viable opLon then we can arrange meeLngs with both HOA’s
I have not had a chance to ride out there to look around but a\ached is a couple of opLons based on the
informaLon that I had available. I like Connector Road “A” because I believe that we would be far enough
away from the Dogwood entrance and we would not be crossing the ditch shown which is shown on the
Quad as a blue line stream. Not much required as far as permikng a crossing but sLll would be best not to
cross it from a cost standpoint. A couple of other things to menLon:
• I assume that a new gate would be required and showed it in a locaLon that would work if Harkins
ever develops the remainder of his property. We would need to work out in the agreement that no
connecLons to adjacent property is allowed on the Dogwood side of the gate. Could leave a 1’ strip
there that is owned by Dogwood or the City to accomplish this as well.
• I show making the bend in Dogwood a “T” intersecLon (3 way stop) as I think this would be the
safest way due to the sharpness of that curve and Oakridge traffic having to cut across to use the new
exit.
• Has MDOT said that they would be willing to allow a light at this median cut? I’d be surprised if this
met warrants.
I can revise as needed. This drawing is to get the conversaLon going and comments from you. Let me know
the changes you would like to make or we can meet and discuss.
Melinda,
Mayor Rhoads asked us to take a look at a potenNal access for Dogwood and Oakridge coming across Josh
Harkins track of land. Enclosed for your review and comments is a draR for this connecNon. This is only for
discussion purposes. Once you have had a chance to review please contact the Mayor and lets arrange a
meeNng to discuss this design and any concept the MDOT might have. We have not shared this with any of
the homeowners and will not for the Nme being. Should you or Amy need any addiNonal informaNon don’t
hesitate contacNng me.
Thanks
Garry Miller
601-624-8988
I have not had a chance to ride out there to look around but a_ached is a couple of opNons based on the
informaNon that I had available. I like Connector Road “A” because I believe that we would be far enough
away from the Dogwood entrance and we would not be crossing the ditch shown which is shown on the
Quad as a blue line stream. Not much required as far as permieng a crossing but sNll would be best not to
cross it from a cost standpoint. A couple of other things to menNon:
• I assume that a new gate would be required and showed it in a locaNon that would work if Harkins
ever develops the remainder of his property. We would need to work out in the agreement that no
connecNons to adjacent property is allowed on the Dogwood side of the gate. Could leave a 1’ strip
there that is owned by Dogwood or the City to accomplish this as well.
• I show making the bend in Dogwood a “T” intersecNon (3 way stop) as I think this would be the
safest way due to the sharpness of that curve and Oakridge traffic having to cut across to use the new
exit.
I can revise as needed. This drawing is to get the conversaNon going and comments from you. Let me know
the changes you would like to make or we can meet and discuss.
Greg Bonds, P.E.
Benchmark Engineering & Surveying, LLC
101 Highpointe Court, Suite B
Brandon, MS 39042
Office: 601-591-1077
Fax: 601-591-0711
Cell:
gbonds@benchmarkms.net
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