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Classics/Philosophy 2701 First Assignment Passage: Phaedo 72e-77a

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Classics/Philosophy 2701 First Assignment

Passage: Phaedo 72e-77a

Prepared for Brad Levett


Prepared by Phoebe Su
ID 200466993
October 7, 2005

Note: Primary text used is “The Collected Dialogues


of Plato”, Princeton University Press, edited by Hamilton and Cairns.
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Phaedo 72e-77a: Passage Summary

Passage 72e–77a of Phaedo features Socrates propounding the immortality of the soul via

the theory of recollection, while engaged in Socratic dialogue with Simmias in audience

with a number of his friends during the final hours before his death. The argument hinges

upon the assertion that learning of knowledge as recollection of that which was learned or

acquired before one’s life implies the impossibility of the nonexistence of one’s soul

before the existence of the body. Moreover, Socrates states that the immortal soul,

exhibiting some sort of prepossessed foundational, ordered and/or transcendent

knowledge1, is directly implied by the theory of recollection (claim that true knowledge is

an acknowledgement, or recollection, of pre-acquired latent truths). Socrates proceeds to

demonstrate the truth of the theory of recollection through Simmias’ own confessions.

Simmias begins by affording that some natural faculty in people seems to recognize the

correct answer, without prior grasp of the subject. Socrates first elucidates to Simmias the

concept of recollection. On the obvious level, recollection is the sense being reminded of

something so long faded in memory that it has been forgotten, through being conscious of

something else and noticing their perfect or partial similarity. This is exemplified by

recollecting someone through personal belongings/objects, another person, or a visual

representation. By this analogy, Socrates notices that one receives the notion of equality

from real life examples, such as equal stones or sticks, but that one’s conceived notion of

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The possession and definition of soul, and some fundamental unity (the order, harmony, the quality of
transcendence) are complex difficult notions studied throughout Plato, particularly his later dialogues.

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absolute equality is never found through the senses beyond only a poor imitation.

Therefore he and Simmias conclude that abstracts, or “all absolute standards” (75c), such

as absolute equality are in fact knowledge previously acquired since all sensible equals

are noticed to strive after absolute reality but never perfectly. Since sensory perception

begins at birth, this knowledge of absolute equality must have been obtained before birth.

The same argument can be applied using all absolute standards such as “absolute beauty,

goodness, uprightness and holiness” (75d).

Hence, knowledge is either possessed by birth and kept, or invariably forgotten after

acquisition. In the former case, to know implies retention. In the latter case, forgetting

implies loss of knowledge, and having lost this at birth, recollection implies the recovery

of knowledge by applying the senses upon imperfect sensible object.

Subsequently, Socrates entreats Simmias to choose between the alternative of an inborn

knowledge of absolute standards which are retained throughout life, and that of learning

as an act of recollecting knowledge which had been acquired before birth but lost at the

moment of birth. When Simmias expresses indecision, Socrates walks him through

confession of the latter case by way concrete example: that only one who has knowledge

about something can thoroughly explain this thing; that since no one present could

explain the topics here discussed, therefore they have recollected that which was once

learned; and since this knowledge could not have been acquired after birth, therefore the

soul must have had existence before birth. Also, acquisition of knowledge cannot occur

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at birth and hence must occur before, since birth is the moment in which this knowledge

is lost.

In concluding, Socrates reiterates that the logical necessities of the immortal soul and that

of absolute standards, such as absolute goodness and beauty, are one and the same. That

is, prior existence of the soul is evident in one’s “grade of reality” (77a).

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