User talk:Keranplein
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Best regards! --VIGNERON (talk) 15:10, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello, be advised that located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) must contain only the lowest administrative level available, the upper ones being inferred automatically. For example in Britzgyberg oppidum (Q14627810) only Illfurth (Q83413) must be present : Haut-Rhin (Q12722) is inferred because it’s stated in Illfurth (Q83413) and so on. Adding all the levels in the element itself is not only useless, but it’s more likely to generate anachronisms, as it ignores territorial evolutions and context, while the inference system doesn’t. Through inference we thus know that in 1890 Britzgyberg oppidum (Q14627810) is in Upper Alsace (Q1999970) (and thus in Germany) and not in Grand Est (Q18677983), because it’s stated with dates on Illfurth (Q83413).
By the way, note Alsace (Q1142) is not a valid attribute for located in the administrative territorial entity (P131), as this property must only contains administrative entities, like European Collectivity of Alsace (Q2982948) or Q22010895, while Alsace (Q1142) represent historical region. Runi Gerardsen (talk) 10:47, 5 July 2024 (UTC)