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"And if they feel they're never going to be able to get out of a situation, they think they might as well live for the moment."

The minister told BBC Politics Wales higher education was going through a "challenging" time but this was mostly beyond Welsh government's control.

They say you go bankrupt two ways, slowly, then all at once.

Nine points clear after 23 matches, with 15 games to go, Liverpool are leading the way as they push to become English champions for a 20th time.

Borthwick went for speed and mobility by starting Curry twins Ben and Tom and Ben Earl in the back row.