Muboshgu

WikiCup 2023 September newsletter

The fourth round of the competition has finished, with anyone scoring less than 673 points being eliminated. It was a high scoring round with all but one of the contestants who progressed to the final having achieved an FA during the round. The highest scorers were

• Epicgenius, with 2173 points topping the scores, gained mainly from a featured article, 38 good articles and 9 DYKs. He was followed by
• Sammi Brie, with 1575 points, gained mainly from a featured article, 28 good articles and 50 good article reviews. Close behind was
• Thebiguglyalien, with 1535 points mainly gained from a featured article, 15 good articles, 26 good article reviews and lots of bonus points.

Between them during round 4, contestants achieved 12 featured articles, 3 featured lists, 3 featured pictures, 126 good articles, 46 DYK entries, 14 ITN entries, 67 featured article candidate reviews and 147 good article reviews. Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them and within 24 hours of the end of the final. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.

I will be standing down as a judge after the end of the contest. I think the Cup encourages productive editors to improve their contributions to Wikipedia and I hope that someone else will step up to take over the running of the Cup. Sturmvogel 66 (talk), and Cwmhiraeth (talk)

Holiday Greetings

Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, people's rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension. Happy Holidays to you and yours. Always a pleasure to see your work. ―Buster7 ☎

World Series

We got the matchup you predicted last offseason.. Not sure we have the pitching to hang with you guys but it's gonna be fun. Spanneraol (talk) 18:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Spanneraol, if only I had put money down on it. The last time the Yankees and Dodgers played in the World Series, I was a fetus. I'm excited for this series. YANKEES IN SIX! – Muboshgu (talk) 21:02, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Shoulda bet on it..lol.. tonight's game was certainly something.. I get way too caught up in these games.. not good for my health. At least now people can stop talking about 1988. Spanneraol (talk) 05:26, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

As a Mets fan I lost interest when I found out they couldn't both lose. -Ad Orientem (talk) 05:30, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Sounds like a Mets fan to me. – Muboshgu (talk) 13:45, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Sorry about the Bombers. I guess they'll have to go back to their vacation condominiums in Utah and plush mansions in Jersey and settle for counting their many many millions. I do feel badly for them. BusterD (talk)

Hoax on French wiki

Hello, I have found a former hoax article on the French Wikipedia where information about it is very scarce. It can be considered lost media. It was about a Chinese scholar named Li M'hâ Ong (or Li Ma-hong) (which was apparently a parody of the phrase "lime á ongles" which means toenail clipper or file) and reportedly existed for over a decade on the French wiki before it was removed in 2015 or 2016. There is almost absolutely zero information still on the internet on what this article was about. It feels like it was quite long, given that multiple French dictionary sites have referenced it as a source for example sentences about "gnarled trees" until recently. The article also had a bunch of supposed quotes from the scholar, apparently, such as: "On nomme d'ordinaire mythologie les récits sacrés des religions auxquelles plus personne ne croit", which in English means "We usually call mythology the sacred stories of religions that no one believes in anymore". One quote, "le clou qui dépasse connaîtra le marteau " (Li M'Hâ Ong)" (The nail that sticks out will know the hammer) has been referenced on the website of TECFA, which is located at Geneva University, as a real quote, and appears to be not the only occurrence where Li M'Hâ Ong is seriously quoted. This article was apparently a very elaborate hoax. Do you know anything about the article or its contents? (Source: https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Mythologie, https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Projets_p%C3%A9dagogiques/Universit%C3%A9_du_Qu%C3%A9bec_en_Outaouais, both French) 87.122.16.35 (talk) 16:04, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

If there is a page on the French Wikipedia that deals with hoaxes, you should bring it there. At least, you should let an administrator on the French Wikipedia know about it. This is the English Wikipedia. We know nothing about what goes on on the other language Wikipedias. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot

Note: All columns in this table are sortable, allowing you to rearrange the table so the articles most interesting to you are shown at the top. All images have mouse-over popups with more information. For more information about the columns and categories, please consult the documentation and please get in touch on SuggestBot's talk page with any questions you might have.

Views/Day	Quality	Title	Tagged with…
2,342		2024 National League Championship Series (talk)	Add sources
3,984		Subway Series (talk)	Add sources
362		Legal affairs of Donald Trump as president (talk)	Add sources
1,761		Quebec City (talk)	Add sources
719		Hatamoto (talk)	Add sources
182		2024 National League Wild Card Series (talk)	Add sources
26		Inswinger (talk)	Cleanup
6		The Miracle Mile Shot (talk)	Cleanup
454		Reagan era (talk)	Cleanup
13		Melibe viridis (talk)	Expand
808		Șor Party (talk)	Expand
4,435		Quebec (talk)	Expand
78		Major League Baseball relocations of 1950s–1960s (talk)	Unencyclopaedic
341		The English Patient (talk)	Unencyclopaedic
2,126		Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election (talk)	Unencyclopaedic
4		Taungmagyi (talk)	Merge
7		Shwe Hpyin Nyidaw (talk)	Merge
1,066		Bert and Ernie (talk)	Merge
100		Bay Bridge Series (talk)	Wikify
202		Mike Collins (politician) (talk)	Wikify
263		Dennis Erickson (talk)	Wikify
2		Biers Run (talk)	Orphan
6		Bialosky Bear (talk)	Orphan
2		Baldassare Calamai (talk)	Orphan
20		Digital Fairness Act (talk)	Stub
7		Larry Sutton (talk)	Stub
148		Scott P. Myren (talk)	Stub
26		1936 Major League Baseball season (talk)	Stub
11		Kim Sun-bin (talk)	Stub
10		C. Shannon Bacon (talk)	Stub

SuggestBot picks articles in a number of ways based on other articles you've edited, including straight text similarity, following wikilinks, and matching your editing patterns against those of other Wikipedians. It tries to recommend only articles that other Wikipedians have marked as needing work. We appreciate that you have signed up to receive suggestions regularly; your contributions make Wikipedia better — thanks for helping!

If you have feedback on how to make SuggestBot better, please let us know on SuggestBot's talk page. -- SuggestBot (talk) 13:32, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2024 World Series

On 31 October 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2024 World Series, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. —Bagumba (talk) 11:56, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Must have been hard to nominate.—Bagumba (talk) 11:56, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

I think I deserve a World Series ring for my efforts. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

		The Baseball Barnstar
		For placing project before team in getting 2024 World Series to ITN. Not a ring, but perhaps better than a crummy t-shirt.—Bagumba (talk) 16:13, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Certainly better than that crummy "My Dawg" shirt – Muboshgu (talk) 16:18, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Venable

It's official. It's been announced. Don't need a press conference for it to be so. Get off your high horse Muboshgu and stop bullying other people just because your an admin. 2603:8080:BC00:24C9:FD63:D958:CBDF:9AD8 (talk) 15:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

It had not been announced when I reverted it. Stick to the facts. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:54, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 November newsletter

The 2024 WikiCup has come to an end, with the final round being a very tight race. Our new champion is AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), who scored 2,283 points mainly through 3 high-multiplier FAs and 3 GAs on military history topics. By a 1% margin, Airship beat out last year's champion, BeanieFan11 (submissions), who scored second with 2,264 points, mainly from an impressive 58 GAs about athletes. In third place, Generalissima (submissions) scored 1,528 points, primarily from two FAs on U.S. Librarians of Congress and 20 GAs about various historical topics. Our other finalists are: Sammi Brie (submissions) with 879 points, Hey man im josh (submissions) with 533 points, BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 432 points, Arconning (submissions) with 244 points, and AryKun (submissions) with 15 points. Congratulations to our finalists and all who participated!

The final round was very productive, and contestants had 7 FAs, 9 FLs, 94 GAs, 73 FAC reviews, and 79 GAN reviews and peer reviews. Altogether, Wikipedia has benefited greatly from the activities of WikiCup competitors all through the contest. Well done everyone!

All those who reached the final will receive awards and the following special awards will be made, based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, these prizes are awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round, or in the event of a tie, to the overall leader in this field.

• Generalissima (submissions) wins the featured article prize for 3 FAs in round 4, and 7 FAs overall.
• Hey man im josh (submissions) wins the featured list prize for 23 FLs overall.
• MaranoFan (submissions) wins the featured topic prize for 9 articles in featured topics in round 1.
• Hey man im josh (submissions) wins the featured content reviewer prize for 110 FA/FL reviews overall.
• BeanieFan11 (submissions) wins the good article prize for 58 GAs in round 5, and 70 GAs overall.
• Fritzmann (submissions) wins the good topic prize for 6 articles in good topics in round 2.
• Sammi Brie (submissions) wins the good article reviewer prize for 45 GA reviews in round 2, and 78 GA reviews overall.
• BeanieFan11 (submissions) wins the DYK prize, for 131 Did you know articles overall.
• Muboshgu (submissions) wins the ITN prize, for 15 In the news articles in round 1, and 36 overall.

Next year's competition will begin on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors, and we hope to see you all in the 2025 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement!

If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:48, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

The 2024 WikiCup

The ITN prize awarded to Muboshgu for the strongest contribution of In the news items in the 2024 WikiCup, with 15 In the news articles in round 1, and 36 overall.

Congratulations! Epicgenius (talk) 16:58, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Special Barnstar
		Hey there. Some time ago, you helped me out with a user on here who had been harrassing me for over a month. I just wanted to say thank you for helping. 😊 Also, even though I'm a Mets fan, I'm sorry the Yankees lost... Well, not too sorry but for you specifically 😂. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm glad that it worked out with that user. But I'm sorry that Mets fans are such haters. Some sort of little sibling syndrome? :P – Muboshgu (talk) 19:30, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Hey... Its been a while. 1986 is ancient history. 😭 Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

I woulda rooted for the Mets over the Guardians. Just sayin'. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:59, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

I was hoping the Yankees would win, for what its worth; keep it in NYC at least and beat the team who beat the Mets! 😭 Alas... Freddie Freeman happened. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:25, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Tiffany Justice

Your redirect of Tiffany Justice has been reverted. I reverted back with a hopefully informative edit summary, but I'm going back to bed now. Could you take a look? Bishonen | tålk 05:10, 2 November 2024 (UTC).

Administrators' newsletter – November 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2024).

Administrator changes

• Crisco 1492

• Babajobu
• Daniel
• Elf
• Jayron32
• Thue
• Wugapodes

CheckUser changes

Maxim

Oversighter changes

Maxim

Guideline and policy news

• Following a discussion, the discussion-only period proposal that went for a trial to refine the requests for adminship (RfA) process has been discontinued.
• Following a request for comment, Administrator recall is adopted as a policy.

Technical news

• Mass deletions done with the Nuke tool now have the 'Nuke' tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. T366068

Arbitration

• RoySmith, Barkeep49 and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2024 Arbitration Committee Elections. ThadeusOfNazereth and Dr vulpes are reserve commissioners.
• Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate from 3 November 2024 until 12 November 2024 to stand in the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections.
• The Arbitration Committee is seeking volunteers for roles such as clerks, access to the COI queue, checkuser, and oversight.

Miscellaneous

• An unreferenced articles backlog drive is happening in November 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with {{Unreferenced}}. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles. Sign up to participate!

---

• Discuss this newsletter
• Subscribe
• Archive

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:21, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Infobox, predecessors/successors

Howdy. You wouldn't happen to know when/where the RFC was, concerning whether or not to show successors (before they take office) in predecessors's infobox? GoodDay (talk) 17:34, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, not sure. I imagine we've discussed it, but I don't remember where. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:29, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2024 Japan Series

On 3 November 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2024 Japan Series, which you created. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 23:39, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Your AN protection

You may want to double-check your protection times. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 01:53, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Weird... I put it in for a week, and it said that at the bottom, but then the protection itself said infinite? – Muboshgu (talk) 02:09, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

You set the existing indef move protection for a week and the edit protection for indef. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 02:11, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Ohhhh. Oops. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:14, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing it. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 02:20, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing out my mistake. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:29, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 6 November 2024

• From the editors: Editing Wikipedia should not be a crime

• News and notes: Wikimedia Foundation shares ANI lawsuit updates; first admin elections appoint eleven sysops; first admin recalls opened; temporary accounts coming soon?

• In the media: An old scrimmage, politics and purported libel

• Special report: Wikipedia editors face litigation, censorship

• Gallery: Why you should take more photos and upload them

• In focus: Questions and answers about the court case

• Traffic report: Twisted tricks or tempting treats?

• Technology report: Wikimedia tech, the Asian News International case, and the ultra-rare BLACKLOCK

• Humour: Man quietly slinks away from talk page argument after realizing his argument dumb, wrong

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:05, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

2008 United States presidential election

Perhaps it should be cited in the body, but I don't think it is in this case. Yes, some of the information is repeated in the "Analysis" section, but it doesn't have any source listed there either. Additionally, that section actually mentions precisely what I wanted to add to the lead: "As of 2020, this election is the last time that Indiana or North Carolina voted Democratic, and is also the most recent election where one of the nominees has since died." So if the former (i.e. the info on Indiana and North Carolina never voting Democratic after 2008) can stay in the lead, why can't the latter?

Also, I can understand that one could consider my addition trivial, but to be consistent, one would have to remove the other similar passages ("Since the death of George McGovern in 2012, this is the earliest election where at least one of the major party nominees for president (Carter) or vice president is still alive (Ford died in 2006 and both Mondale and Dole died in 2021)." from 1976 United States presidential election, "Since Mondale's death in April 2021, this is the latest election where all of the major party nominees for president or vice president are deceased." from 1984 United States presidential election, and "Since the death of 2000 Democratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Lieberman in 2024, this is the earliest presidential election in which all major-party candidates for president and vice president are still alive." from 2004 United States presidential election) as well.

"Don't revert, discuss" - a very good idea on paper, but it has happened to me before that the user reverting my edit never replied to the talk page message I left them. TVShowFan122 (talk) 04:20, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Did you message them on their talk page or the article page? Because this should be on the article talk page to get more page watchers involved. There is a lot of uncited content in the "Analysis" section. I haven't looked through that article in some time. The answer isn't to add more uncited content, but to clean it up. A lot of it looks like trivia that should be deleted. And McCain's death is quite immaterial to the 2008 election. As was Mondale's death to the 1976 election, Mondale's death to the 1984 election, and Lieberman's death to the 2004 election. People add cruft that doesn't get reverted all the time. I will go remove those three entries now, though. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't talking about BusterD in particular here, I don't think I've ever interacted with them. What I meant was that I've experienced being reverted, messaging the person who reverted me, and never getting a response at least 2 times before - although it was on the Polish Wiki, where I'm more active than here nowadays. Thank you for being consistent and removing the other death-related trivia as well. TVShowFan122 (talk) 02:22, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Request

Can you merge Draft:Shavon Revel with Shavon Revel? Yankees10 23:59, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

and Steve Mott (American football) back to Steve Mott? I don't know what this was all about.-- Yankees10 00:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Steve Mott done. Change your mind on Revel? – Muboshgu (talk) 00:59, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Nevermind, doesn't look notable to me. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Misrepresentation of sources

Please do not misrepresent sources as you did here and in the related talk page discussion before your edit. I think some reasonable administrator should warn you. Politrukki (talk) 19:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Or perhaps you should learn to WP:AGF about honest mistakes. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

We all make mistakes. What I fail to understand how this was an example of "honest mistake". Twice. Would you like to enlighten me? Politrukki (talk) 19:59, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

I don't take your meaning about "twice". I made a mistake in forgetting to attribute it to the Democratic minority of the committee rather than the full committee, and corrected it when you pointed it out. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:03, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

"Twice" as in first on the talk page and then in the mainspace. The former is much more serious mistake. "Honest mistake" is an understatement. To use a similar incident with someone else as an example, an editor cited a source without reading it or fundamentally misread it, for a claim that no reliable source ever made, as far as I know. Characterising that edit as "honest mistake" would be an understatement. Still, I would not say the user was being "dishonest", because I do not believe it. Subpar behaviour, but there was no intention to disrupt Wikipedia.

Thank you for amending the article, even though someone reverted your contributions. Do you believe that your two contributions accurately summarised the source in the article? Politrukki (talk) 15:31, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Someone asked about Trump conflicts of interest with staying at his properties, I said "overcharging the Secret Service", found several sources, and added one with imprecise language. That is what we would call ONEEVENT on Wikipedia.

I do not think you are assuming good faith. This is a small error, not a "fundamental misread". Yeah, "someone" reverted it. You. Why did you remove it? Where's the SYNTH? – Muboshgu (talk) 15:53, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

"ONEEVENT"? If you mean WP:ONEEVENT, I have no idea who you are talking about. Back to my question ("Do you believe..."), since you did not answer, let me ask you this is in another way. What does "during these stays" refer to? Politrukki (talk) 17:35, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

My "ONEEVENT" is finding the source and adding it to the article. "During these stays"? It refers to Trump's stays at Trump properties where the Secret Service had to be there with him and they were overcharged for the rooms. Golf cart rentals, too. What else would it refer to? – Muboshgu (talk) 17:46, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Oh, the Bump column. That's another matter. I didn't see there was an intervening edit. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:56, 9 November 2024 (UTC)