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Talk:Zeno (emperor)

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Marvoir in topic Michael Psellus about Zeno's death

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An event in this article is a February 9 selected anniversary

kurd?

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It cant be true, kurds have never populated that area, still today the kurds have arrived there much later on. The isaurians are more likely to be Syriacs/Syrians (Arameans). The Isaurians are thought to be ancestors of the modern Kurds,

Suryoyo 02:05, 4 January 2006 (UTC) //MichaelReply

Isauria/Armenia!?!?

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The article says that Zeno is an Isuarian from the area now known as Armenia. This statement has two problems: 1) Isauria is Antalya now (formerly Attalia) and Armenia is a bit to the East. 2) Armenia was in existence during the time period being discussed.

Is there something I am missing, for example was Zeno an ethnic Isaurian from Armenia? -AlexiusComnenus

The person who added that comment probably mistook Isauria for Armenia Minor, which was located in Cilicia (futher east, but also along the Mediterranean coast), and did not form until around the time of the Crusades, about six centuries after Zeno's rule. I don't think that the comment is useful though, because "Armenia Minor" is no more enlightening to a modern reader than Isuaria. Shadowstrike 08:31, 9 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Death

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Was he murdered?Harioris 22:40, 26 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

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The Military career section at the present is an obvious copyright violation of Zeno (474-475,476-491). 71.108.22.196 (talk) 09:48, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Yikes, and carried over the geographical errors from that site. This still needs fixing, I'll put it on my to-do list. Anarchangel23 (talk) 20:32, 14 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Affairs with the Goths (474–487)

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How come the text in the Affairs with the Goths section repeatedly kept using the phrase "the two Theoderics" (e.g., "Zeno tried to divide the two Theoderics", etc)? I thought one of them was named Theoderic while the other one was TheodOric? Wouldn't it have been more accurate to say something along the lines of "the two Ostrogothic leaders", instead? I would have implemented the changes myself but am not sure what the linguistic conventions were in that region during that time period (i.e., whether [e]'s and [o]'s are considered alternatives of each other, and so perehaps Theoderic = Theodoric, and hence such curious phrasing is perhaps considered acceptable???) Kabesang Tales (talk) 00:23, 10 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Tabula diagram is wrong

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The tabula picture is wrong. The journal article cited in the article on tabula (Austin, Roland G. "Zeno's Game of τάβλη", The Journal of Hellenic Studies 54:2, 1934. pp 202-205) has a different picture; namely, no singleton on 16 (instead an extra piece is stacked on 6). Someone should fix the picture. It is also found in the tabula article. I don't really know how to do wikipedia uploads. As shown the situation described does not make sense. Piledhighandeep (talk) 07:50, 9 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Ok, I have fixed it. Piledhighandeep (talk) 19:23, 9 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Croke References in Notes

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There are multiple references to Croke in the Notes section but no book or article is cited. I'm assuming it is Brian Croke, but which particular work is being cited is not listed. I'd like to clean up some of the language to make it clearer and more readable but I'd like to reference exactly if I'm changing quoted text. Need to know what work of Croke this is?47.45.94.213 (talk) 16:52, 13 January 2021 (UTC) Paul RReply

Michael Psellus about Zeno's death

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The article said : "According to a popular legend recorded by two 11th century and 12th century writers, Zeno was buried alive after becoming insensible due to drinking or an illness." and there was this refernce : "Cedrenus, I; Joannes Zonaras, 14.2.31–35. Cited in Whitby, ibidem. Michael Psellus, 68. (...)" Well, the text of the article mentioned two authors, but the reference mentioned three. There is no doubt thar Kedrenos and Zonaras say that Zeno was buried alive, but what about Michael Psellus ? I rermoved his name. If he too said that Zeno was buried alive, please say it clearly and quote your source. Thanks in advance. Marvoir (talk) 14:40, 20 January 2022 (UTC)Reply