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That's great

You deserve a great big huggy love-fest for that. You made my day. I'm pretty sure that if you go to the AfD and say that you Withdraw nom, someone will close it out for you. I think you might be able to do it yourself, but I have no idea how. I hope you have a really awesome day!! SMSpivey (talk) 22:38, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, yea, it would be. But hey, I love my archaeology! SMSpivey (talk) 22:48, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, friend! So, the AfD is still drawing alot of comments for delete, so if you want to withdraw the nom, you should look into doing it soon. SMSpivey (talk) 01:23, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, it's not this particular AfD that bothers me. If someone wants to remake this list when they have more info, they will. I have a big problem with the PROD-ding of the British Punk bands list. It four years old, consists of wikilinked bands, and is part of a global group of these lists that is clearly organized and tended (see the bottom of that page). I do still think this page's deletion will amount to a case of systemic bias, because there is no way that the British punk band list would be deleted at AfD. Anyway, sorry that this has...grown so much. Hopefully some others will drop in and comment. Maybe I'm wrong, but this...just....seems wrong. Anywho, sincerely, have a good rest of the night! SMSpivey (talk) 05:31, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maritime

Well, here's an article "completed" today, Indonesia Port Corporations, its a super stub, the 4 corporations, I, II, III and IV operate and govern hundreds of ports, compare Port Authority of Thailand at 7, Saudi Ports Authority at 9, Vietnam Inland Waterways Administration at 4. This bureaucracy is so wide and most all of the many individual port authority sites (that I have looked at) are in Bahasa Indonesia, including the Ministry of Transportation, Indonesia page itself; it's Bahasa Indonesian that one needs to continue with this article, I don't really have it. It is daunting. --Mr Accountable (talk) 05:00, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Storr

Glenn or Glen Storr? cygnis insignis 12:24, 30 January 2009 (UTC) Ta, I would your dear lady's word over the other contradictory sources. And sorry about that - I've been very distracted ... I'm back on much later, then tomorrow. cygnis insignis 12:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pakubuwana/Pakubuwono

Sorry, don't really get what you said. What I did in this article can be seen here [1]. I don't do transliteration to the article. I simply add the date of birth and death, place of birth and death, year of reign, and adding categories. I found a good source to add to the article, but it is in Indonesian, and I can't translate it using google (meaning there will be no source in English if I continue adding it). [2] w.tanoto-soegiri (talk) 23:06, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to sound a bit confused, but do you mean this part "(also transliterated Pakubuwana VI)" ? If that is what you mean, I did not add it, and it is visible from the article's history. Also I've checked his immediate predecessor and successor, both of them have the same thing. I think your idea of redirecting might be better, so we can remove those transliteration.w.tanoto-soegiri (talk) 23:15, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think your apology is excessive (by degrading yourself as an ignorant Australian. Please do not do that kind of apology again, because I feel bad too. BTW, my cousin is australian too. Also in regards of the spelling of the name, before you do the redirect, please consider the name that you are going to use in the main article. As far as I am understand, in "Ejaan Jawa Baku", Javanese sound "O" is spelled as "A", and vice versa (this is per article I read in Javanese Wikipedia [3]). I saw more "Pakubuwono" compared to "Pakubuwana" though. I don't really know which one to use. In case you can't read Javanese, then [4] - this is my failed attempt to discuss the rename of the article of Hamengkubuwana IX to Hamengkubuwono IX in Wikipedia Indonesia. (another similar case is "susilo" vs "susila", "suroboyo" vs "surabaya") Maybe a discussion in WP Indonesia? Otherwise, I'll leave you to decide. w.tanoto-soegiri (talk) 08:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I understand I have had to suffer the Imogiri/Imagiri issue a number of times - Soegiri - siapa, atau apa itu? Satu Suro 09:38, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

lol.... Javanese/Indonesian spelling is too complicated. The president's name is spelled susilo, regardless of pronounciation (should be properly spelled susila in proper javanese spelling). I better stop now before it hurt your brain as it hurts mine. Soegiri (Sugiri) is half of me (my mother's family name), "giri" means mountain (funny, you mentioned Imogiri, which means a mountain as well). I began to use it about 2-3 years ago, but just realised my Wikipedia signature did not have it, so I added it. Tanoto is my father's family name (alternatively Soetanto or Sutanto). W is one of my give name, which hopefully remains a secret. w.tanoto-soegiri (talk) 12:44, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting, because I have a strong connection with Yogya myself. My sister and brother were born in Yogya (me+dad+mom were born in Magelang). My dad is a "Golf friend" of Hamengkubuwono X (they have some photos taken together in golf course). BTW, since you lived near "Merapi", about "Jurang Jero", is it closed permanently? (probably we can add it to the article, because it is/was an attraction. w.tanoto-soegiri (talk) 13:02, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Joke

You might interested in this. --Merbabu (talk) 09:57, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Date Link

I read this one. C H J L ^Discuss 02:58, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yeah, thanks for your info. I almost forget to say this. Sorry. C H J L ^Discuss 09:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

LOL! Your Indonesian is good enough, SatuSuro! One of an administrator said that i make some disruptive edits and he/she gave me a warning that i should stop my edits or will be blocked by him/her for an expiry time, i guess i didn't do those admin said! I just removed really unuseful link and fix the wrong words like jst, mnday, or sth., anyway, i will take away from them, just see and make a minor edits for this time. C H J L ^Discuss 10:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, i will try on there, can you give the url, please? Google language tool is good, but it can't help me more. LOL! C H J L ^Discuss 07:49, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I read in i forget the policy title, but it offers wikipedian who know the red links are not useful can be removed, and i see on Dayak people, the red links on religion section are not important and impossible to make a new article. So, i do that, i guess i'm not do something wrong with this. C H J L ^Discuss 08:02, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok SatuSuro, i'll take your advice. C H J L ^Discuss 08:25, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

random

This is interesting: Oldest rock#Oldest terrestrial material. Hesperian 11:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The North Pole is on my list too. It's all exceedingly interesting, even if I do know nothing much about it. Hesperian 11:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Very good. :-) No, I haven't really looked into that one yet. But this is a pretty good place to start. Hesperian 11:54, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Curious that the position of the site is withheld for conservation reasons, but the location of the mine, battery and well are freely available from the gazetteer. One wonders how hard it would be to find the stroms once one has found the infrastructure, and whether withholding the location would discourage anyone who took the trouble to drive out there.

Also the Heritage Council of Western Australia have screwed up. They have two listings, one for "North Pole", which represents the original nomination for listing on the Register of the National Estate; and a separate listing for "North Pole Geological Site", which represents the name under which the Register ended up listing it. The location is obfuscated in the latter—"40 k WNW of Marble Bar"—but two orders of magnitude more accurate in the former—"35.8km NW from Marble Bar".

Hesperian 12:14, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I apologise for being so chatty lately. The last few days I have stumbled across so many interesting places in Western Australia. It is criminal that we are so ignorant of them. People drive past incredible wetlands, geological monuments, indigenous heritage sites, etcetera; without a clue of what they are missing; and instead they spend their holidays visiting wineries and cheese factories. (Email to follow on that)

My latest discovery is the Becher Point Wetlands in Rockingham. Less than an hours drive away. A Ramsar site. In 2007 someone published a 697 page book about it! My first thought was "I have to have that book", but it can't be had for less than US$180.

Hesperian 12:05, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

is that the one on the souther side of Pt Peron and too the north of safety bay, got some photos somewhere of that area must go digging. Gnan garra 12:20, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's the point in Port Kennedy. (I'll cc you into this email, and—what the heck—cygnis too.) Hesperian 12:31, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Becher, by the way, is the old name of the suburb of Port Kennedy. I added what I have offline to the Port Kennedy article, in case it is of any use to anyone. Orderinchaos 18:01, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Banten

I just read and edited Banten. I noticed that the Javanese and the Javanese language had been totally left out! Cheers. Meursault2004 (talk) 22:02, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Solo River

Yeah and now we even have a category for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengawan_Solo_River - surrounded by orang gila unfortunately :( Satu Suro 02:19, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Probably we should move the article first to Solo River as with other articles. Meursault2004 (talk) 07:38, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just moved the category. Meursault2004 (talk) 21:59, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Satu Suro 02:14, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Warning

Which articles you refer to, if you mind telling me, so that I can make it better? Kembangraps (talk) 10:28, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Time feature on your userpage

Could you do something about the time feature on your userpage, it says am when its pm and vice-versa. It gives the wrong impression to users that don't know about Australian time. Its been like this for some time. Kathleen.wright5 22:14, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Its looks fine to me, its showing the correct local time and date... Gnan garra 22:41, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone foolish to visit my user page does so at their own risk :) Satu Suro 02:14, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nice joke on user page, should of kept it up there! :) Aaroncrick (Tassie Talk) 11:19, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey forgot that you guys have finally got daylight saving! Be careful, your curtains and blinds are going to fade (don't ask me how it's any different when there was no daylight saving in WA) and everyone is going to get skin cancer! :0 Aaroncrick (Tassie Talk) 11:25, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh.. seem to be having a good old time on your user page. BTW I somehow deleted some of your edits, fixed that though. Aaroncrick^(talk) 13:11, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bengawan

No, you explained it to me a few days ago, I understood well. Like Rio Grande or Edogawa....hmm, just looked at article Edo River, one of the biggest construction projects in pre-modern history is not really mentioned, nor is the fact that "Edo" was a greatly prevalent, positive value that is very extant to this day. Culturally. ja article is more substantial. ... anyway, sorry myself to sound too critical, I was wondering which of Bengawan Solo or Solo River would be better. All in all, it's a minor detail. --Mr Accountable (talk) 14:41, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Heatwave

I don't know what you call a heatwave in Perth, but we're in the middle of a heatwave in Adelaide with the highest temp being 45.7 C on the 28th of January with an expected end on Sunday 8th February. See - 2009 Southeastern Australia heat wave. Kathleen.wright5 21:48, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Energy in Tas

Thanks Satusuro.... I didn't create the template, but thought it was in a god awful mess when i saw it. Been gradually going thru it trying to fix everything up. If you know of any external links that will help me in my quest for good information, feel free to throw them my way. Kind regards Wiki ian 05:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

After going through many australian related energy articles i came across Wind power in Victoria and Wind power in Victoria, Australia both are articles (not re-directs) and both contain very much the same info.... who do you ask to merge the articles? Wiki ian 07:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Joop Beek

[5] --Merbabu (talk) 07:46, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bedugul

Thanks, the Cities banner was an overzealous edit on my part. I've removed the banner.

In En Wikipedia

Which article? I do not understand... Seulimeung (talk) 03:53, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I appear to be a clone of someone

Well, according to this user page. I found it while checking links to one of the pages I link to in my real user page and ... bam! Reminds me of when an editor was once blocked as an impostor of himself. :-) Graham87 13:36, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In case your curious, I checked what links to Wikipedia:Historical archive/Wikipedia chat. Graham87 13:41, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, I must admit, I didn't take much of a peek at the contribs ... I just heard "list of 50 items", went "gee, that's a lot", and gave up. I'll check out the article. Graham87 13:47, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds like he's trying really, really hard to establish notability for himself, but never quite getting there. I think a PROD might be the best action, to avoid the agony of an AFD debate. Graham87 13:51, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't read your previous msgs till now. Hmmm, a walled garden of hoaxery, perhaps? Graham87 13:53, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And ::::The article Australian Business Forum was created by none other than User:Australianbusinessforum. Graham87 13:58, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds fishy to me. I've never directly come across something like this, but I'm sure it's happened before. Graham87 14:02, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So what an Earth do we do with all this garbage? AFD is a more final solution than PROD, even though it's more difficult for everyone involved. It's a bit hard to do a multiple nomination methinks. Ergh! I check what links to some long-forgotten historical page and I find ... this mess! Graham87 14:10, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately checkuser only goes back a month or two at the most. I'll see what I can do to investigate. Graham87 14:13, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well for a start, the Australian Business Forum article mentions that it was cited in The Age, but the only article that mentions it in that newspaper is "Treasurer Swan to meet UK counterpart, which spends exactly one sentence talking about the fact that they'll meet at the ABF. Considering it's allegedly a Melbourne-based organisation, the fact that it's only had a minor mention in Melbourne's major newspaper is a huge, huge concern. Graham87 14:27, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is getting worse by the minute - the ABF article had unrelated spam ad on the talk page - doh! this is getting too much :) ill be off soon! - cheers for the mo Satu Suro 14:40, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More self-promo riffraff

Holy moly! In case you didn't think it could get any worse, see Andrew James Picken on Wikiquote. Graham87 14:47, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, catch you then. I think Harvie Picken might be borderline notable, and he's the most notable person I've encountered yet on this crusade. I'll be off for the night soon too. Graham87 15:02, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

IMO you've only found tip of the iceberg. ;) I'll send some of the heat from the heat wave we are currently having and see if that will melt it for you. ;) Seriously though if I get some free time I'll try and help out. Bidgee (talk) 15:16, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Barn start

thanks for the barn star mate....only my second in 3 years. If you get time check out Aaroncrick's user page and compare it to my own..... tell me your thoughts (particularly the intro and footer).... regards Wiki ian 04:46, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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note to self

I already discussed it with them. I did warn meself once, but these ones come off the script for xfd. I reversed a move, so it thinks I created it. I tried prodding it, but that is not allowed! So now it appears on a debate forum, where several or many will waste their time evaluating its merits and investigating its history before deciding that it should have been deleted on sight. The notification on my talk page is sure to confuse some procedural wonk - so I left it. Phew! any questions? :) cygnis insignis 07:36, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Guruh SP

I'm on it - watch this redlink turn blue in about half an hour :-) Davidelit (talk) 13:35, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No time to do any more - one of those unmissable Indonesian moments is happening - President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono is a guest on the chat show Empat Mata hosted by Tukul Arwana. You have to be here :-) Davidelit (talk)

Unsources

Ok, i will try! C H J L ^Discuss 07:10, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Categories question

I think a list of affected areas would be more suitable. It's probably something people would rather forget once it's all over. -- Longhair\^talk 01:07, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Let's hope the worst has passed. Thank god we didn't get a spark here. -- Longhair\^talk 01:12, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Blame gets people nowhere. God only knows how many years I've copped the blame for everything around home, and nothing was ever resolved :) -- Longhair\^talk 01:23, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Puteri Indonesia

I have proposed a move... Davidelit (talk) 09:24, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Former settlements

Not sure that I follow your arguments. Israel is in Asia. It's a geographical fact, please have a look at Asia and Copenhagen criteria where the boundaries are defined - Turkey is (mainly) in Asia, so Israel clearly is. Where Israel is included in European organisations (eg, Eurovision), this probably arises from its isolation from its neighbours and the historic links of many Israelis to Europe. The use of "modern Indonesia" refers to its boundaries not when an event occurred. All of these categories refer to geographical areas, not historical period. Thus, Krakatoa "blew" in the 1880s, during Dutch colonial rule, but the location is within the current, modern boundaries of Indonesia. I think that the definition is clear. Scope of these categories is as defined and agreed in an earlier discussion. Folks at 137 (talk) 18:32, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The current categories will develop. It's still a matter of identifying articles, but already some cats have been sub-divided and better definition will evolve. I was wary of lots of under-populated categories. Folks at 137 (talk) 07:59, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

I'm going around thanking people for !voting in my RFA, and I know you dislike thankspam and spam in general, but I have to thank you anyway for your nice words, and of course, for correctly referring to me as a female. If it makes any difference to your anti-spam mentalities, at least I'm not using a template? I can add a wiki-cookie one below if you like though. :) Somno (talk) 04:42, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, of course the whole reason I went to that meetup was so people would believe I was a real person. Little did they realise that I am an automaton... We haven't worked together on anything lately, BTW, what's up with that? Although that said, I haven't really worked on much lately anyway. Somno (talk) 04:53, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gibb River Road

Hey! Just quick heads up that I wasn't trying to undo you here but rather trying to clean up after our spam buddy. S/he didn't seem to like legit refs and I couldn't quite figure out how to get them back otherwise. Have a good day! StarM 17:04, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

re: welcome back

Thanks for the re-welcome.. not sure I'm really "back" for real, just more inclined to fix stuff that looks wrong as I come across it. Lots more emphasis on citing sources than in 2006, so that's good to see. CDC (talk) 19:04, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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id translations

Hi SatuSoro, I just changed that because it was needed after I standardized the {{Expand Indonesian}} template. (I didn't tag the article in the beginning.) Are you questioning the existence of the {{Expand Indonesian}} template, or just its application to these particular articles? Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, I just revised the template to add a big warning about not applying it to unreferenced articles. Do you suppose this will help solve the problem? Do you believe that the regency articles should all have the tag removed? I could do this if you want, but I know no Indonesian and wasn't the one who applied the tag in the first place... Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:58, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey buddy. Hope everything is great down under! I heard its pretty phew! down there at the moment, is it hot where you are? Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 22:57, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Killing cats

Hey :) I completely forgot that I'd stripped the categories out of my working article in my user space. Well-spotted. - Mark 01:26, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gibb River Road

Hi! Just curious if you'd like to have an eye at these contributions. I think it's Gibb River Road under yet another name, adding some of the same links. Unfortunately my on wiki time is limited during the week and I can't work with the new user. Can you help him/her? I'm also going to let Djanga know. StarM 03:24, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Gene Corp

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Gene Corp, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

A search for references has failed to find significant coverage in reliable sources in order to comply with notability requirements. This has included web searches for news coverage, books, and journals, which can be seen from the following links:

Gene Corp – news, books, scholar Consequently, this article is about a subject that appears to lack sufficient notability.

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Longhair\^talk 12:59, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've been described as many things here at Wikipedia, but never a lion. Anyway, the facts just didn't line up. It's either a hoax or, as you say, something smelly, like, err, bullshit :) -- Longhair\^talk 13:06, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In case you didn't already know, there's a {{prod2}} template which endorses the original prod notice. Not that it cannot be simply removed by any editor, but I guess it lets others know there's more than one prodder taking aim :) -- Longhair\^talk 13:13, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Joop Beek

Well I am not that familiar with this person, but I've heard stories like that. I mean about the foundation of CSIS. But the rest is indeed cenderung isapan jempol. It is common to scapegoat Christians. So as I am not familiar with this person I cannot comment the article. The alternative is that we should go to the library and borrow the books :-) Meursault2004 (talk) 03:24, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

York Park GA

Just letting you know that York Park is now a Good Article. Finally a Tasmanian article (other than the ones on animals) has reached GA standard =). Thanks for all your help and assistance. Tassie Project is not dead yet! (: Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 09:07, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Probably an abundance of the devils back then. Hopefully someone else can come on board the Tassie project soon as I don't know how much editing I'll be able to do after this year. More important things to focus on I'd imagine. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 09:17, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey I think the Launceston, Tasmania, Tasmania and Clarence, Tasmania articles could all get to GA standard by the end of the year. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 09:25, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

CHJL

Do you remember why Calvin Ho Jiang Lim was blocked in the first place? --Merbabu (talk) 09:59, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please consider

Thank you for your notes. Please take note the information given is meant to be indicative that the (old) manuscript is considered popular during that time and originated from wide spread of places (within Malaysia & Indonesia location), most if not all original copies is not longer located in the place it originated but worldwide (German, Holland, US). There is a resurgent discussion/debate at the moment about the said document, and anyone who edit it otherwise; I persume to know better about those matter than the speakers of the said language, and which I care less about. Yosri (talk) 14:10, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It meant I only add necessary relevent info. Where it is collected from, where it's ended. If anyone think they know better...., I don't care what happen to it afterward. No time/inclination. Anyway, thanks for you notes. :) Yosri (talk) 05:12, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Email

You have an email. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 06:19, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You just made the number of Tasmanian articles to fix up very depressing! :( To be honest, I'm a bit sick of the Tasmanian article stuff and the longer I stay on here at wikipedia, I'd imagine I'll be doing less and less on Tasmanian articles. I might start editing more cricket articles soon. There's not a lot of movement on articles down here so I'll stay a bit longer =P Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 08:52, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I should be staying around. I only started editing because it was embarrassing to look at all of Tassie's articles and to see them at such a low standard. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 09:40, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Any Tassie articles you think need a clean up? Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 09:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for the barnstar mate! Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 19:48, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll probably start at, Strahan, Zeehan, Queenstown. Strahan will probably be the easiest. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 02:43, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll see what I can do. I Better get back to school work. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 03:23, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article is being reassessed, for some reason. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 03:20, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Forgetful

consider me chastened :) Peripitus (Talk) 11:06, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Easy going User!!!!

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For always replying to my stupid questions and going that extra mile!!

Out of all the Wiki users i have encountered, you are by far the most approachable.....this is my way of saying thanks. Wiki ian 06:33, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And Another

		The Special Barnstar
		Agree very much with Ian. There is no Barnstar that describes your contributions well enough! You've done an amazing job over so many years. Your not even a Tassie resident but, on nearly all the Tas arts, I see your name in the contributions list. Job very well done. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 07:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Very easy

Just like this - it simply gets inserted here Satu Suro 10:11, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

woopss!

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Categories of cities of Indonesia

Hi, I am thinking on creating Category:Provincial capitals in Indonesia and Category:Regency capitals in Indonesia. The provincial capitals maybe I can do easily, I am not as sure of the regency capitals. If there is any useful comment on this small project, please write at the Accountable talk page. For reference see Category:Capitals of country subdivisions. --Mr Accountable (talk) 08:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How on earth could I possibly put a new comment above the sheep picture template? It doesn't seem possible to do so. --Mr Accountable (talk) 08:53, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a little tired.....No, these categories are very simple, classic main line categories, not much to go wrong. New categories don't have much in them, the popcat tag could be used. It's the details of Indonesia, the basic percentage rate of mislabels and factual attrition of article content, and the fact that the regencies seem to mean more geopolitically. Categories for Banjarmasin, Pontianak, Kepatong, Palambang were created too, new categories of cities should go in not-yet-created province categories. --Mr Accountable (talk) 15:22, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The cats are going ok. I know I know a lot more about Indonesia than I thought I did. It is more than interesting. I think maybe Jambi (city) could use a move to Jambi City, but I don't want to go ahead and do so without figuring that people will be pleased or not. --Mr Accountable (talk) 11:24, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well. That was easy. There are more Indo cities to disambiguate/simplify, I don't think all of them have the common usage of the newly disambiguated value, viz Jambi City. It will take some consideration. --Mr Accountable (talk) 11:37, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, what does WP Australia do? All I've managed to do w/Aussie is to categorize some west coast ports to Category:Ports and harbours of the Indian Ocean, incl city of Dampiers. I would continue with it, maybe the topics have a lot of attention already. Mining in Australia has a lot to do with mining in SA, the world's biggest mining countries include US, Canada, Australia, Russia, South Africa, China, India....and Chile. Mining companies and mining interests on the Wikipedia take care of themselves, but its important to development of other topic areas viz building of mining towns and cities, with football practice fields, fast food, noodle stands, beer stores, department stores, ISPs, et al. There's a lot of shipping involved as well, especially through Malacca and Red Sea..... I think Dampiers is a new city or newly established boomtown. Right? --Mr Accountable (talk) 11:49, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, here's something I managed to do, to create most all the Ministries in Category:Government of Tanzania and Category:Government of Cambodia; lots of VN companies, Category:Companies listed on the Hanoi Securities Trading Center and Category:Companies listed on the Ho Chi Minh Securities Trading Center. And a chart at SET50. It's the most puzzling thing, creating Hai Ha Confectionery, Sara Vietnam and Phnom Penh Commercial Bank, the articles were CSD'd, one of them straight through to rewriting it (PPCB), literally two minutes after article creation. The PPCB article went to DYK after rewriting, with User Paxse. Government ministries of Indo is something I like, but there are a lot more English-free government sites in Indo, (viz Indonesian port authority companies I-IV), it results in many important government ministry start articles. --Mr Accountable (talk) 12:12, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Re the Javanese template - I don't imagine it will be used any time soon. I just worry that other people will have difficulties creating these templates later, so I made many of them. Maybe in a few years there will be a handful of articles worth translating. I don't think there should be any problem with willy-nilly tagging.

And re the text dumps - I do that because that's what I feel is most productive for me to do, and what I enjoy. I am a volunteer. Many people can wikify things. See [6] here for the contributions log of one such user - almost all of these were articles I copy-pasted. Hopefully you're glad we have now articles like Media of Jordan. Please stop being so negative on my talk page; I have been extremely respectful to you. Calliopejen1 (talk) 02:00, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Still there

Yes, still alive and kicking thanks. Nowhere near the time I used to have to dig in, but them's the breaks. Thewinchester ^(talk) 07:11, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Call it bad faith.

The way Sallykoep speaks, I feel they are just there to give her a bad name. A journalist does not act in the way they do. Call it bad faith. I freely admit i'm abrasive to tools. I follow in the footsteps of Adam Carr :) Timeshift (talk) 12:14, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You'll find Adam Carr regularly commenting under 'Adam in Canberra' at Poll Bludger. Timeshift (talk) 12:59, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Picken undeleted

The subject line says it all - the prod was contested. But see my second message here for yet another complication to the story. Graham87 00:56, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What on Earth should I do with the 19th century author with the same name who is in the page history? We have two articles about completely different people in the same page. And also see my other links on MBisanz' talk page ... the 19th century author doesn't seem to be especially notable either. Just check out the deletion log for Andrew Picken to see what happend. It's just very, very bizarre. I never checked the deletion log or the deleted edits before this. Graham87 01:35, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I believe this was some kind of very, very clever ruse to get the article on the writer deleted. Check out the contribs of Ukliterary, Oxonbiokaren and Oxfordlibrarybio1,, note that they all wanted the article moved to "Andrew Douglas Picken (writer)", and that their only contributions on this topic are about the novelist. But the name Andrew Douglas Picken returns no relevant non-Wikipedia results from a Google search, while the name Andrew Picken returns plenty of good results, many of them about the novelist. Graham87 02:22, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And here's the smoking gun: check out the contribs of 58.171.208.71; the only deleted edits by that IP were to Australian Business Forum, a Picken-related article, and were seven minutes or so before the edit about a merge to "Andrew Douglas Picken". Bingo! Graham87 02:35, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think so. I'll write a message explaining what happened on the talk page, and ask members of the Australia and literature WikiProjects to keep an eye on it. I am tempted to delete all edits after February 2008, as none of them improved the article, but that wouldn't be a good idea for transparency reasons. Graham87 02:47, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: GPO

Hey. Sorry, I have a nasty habit of receiving messages, thinking "I'll reply to that later", then promptly forgetting.

I don't see a problem with there being overlap between the Forrest Place and GPO articles. There's a fair few references in the GPO article which are more relevant to Forrest Place, and could be cannibalised from there.

I've been meaning to write an article about Forrest Chase. All these articles are connected, and there's also the Padbury Buildings too. - Mark 04:03, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lists

Cheer up - read this WP:Categories, lists, and navigation templates; and try actually looking at the oft-cited WP:NOT#DIR - people try to delete lists, the guidelines are very overwhelmingly pro-list, and people cite these WPs flagrantly, superficially and blindly. If these guidelines were adhered to it would be well nigh impossible to delete a good list. Main line: "Lists and categories work synergistically." I have stood in at WP:DELT and successfully defended lists using WP:NOT#DIR, whenever a nom is based on WP:NOT#DIR the list is as good as safe. 'cept you actually have to read it. --Mr Accountable (talk) 06:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Dury. --Mr Accountable (talk) 07:02, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well I know of it. Thinking to "Rhythm stick", it strikes me that Ian was a bit of an expat. --Mr Accountable (talk) 07:05, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, maybe, maybe not, that article is ok but too difficult to edit at the moment, due to workload, I took a look at it yesterday and added an official site link, it is a good school, its a great school, I have a lot to do right now. Maybe some other time I will take a good look at it, perhaps try to bring it up to good article status, perhaps there is an interesting DYK to be written about this university. Dunno.

Which do you prefer, Cateory:Padang City; Category:Padang, West Sumatra; or Category:Padang, Indonesia? --Mr Accountable (talk) 07:12, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Progressive rock

Zappa always seemed to me to be a wellspring for prog rock - Yes, Rush, maybe Jethro Tull, King Crimson, Eno/Ferry; and new material like Trans Am (band). Though Zappa was a complete musician, the music sounds sloppy in its nature and gives a positive relaxed result to the listener, especially compared to other more mainline music product that had been designed to be so nice. The Carpenters, Jim Croce. Billy Corgan worries about this I think. Staying here in New England in my 40s I find it easy to see hip hop and dub reggae through a prism of the past. So close to here, Warren, Rhode Island is a place with a culture that captures the spirit of those times, I think. Chelmsford, Needham, Hopkinton, Bellingham, life is simple here. I don't mind the place, I just see it different from untraveled folk.

Reading the Zappa autobiography, I remember the time he first tried to record with the London Symphony, the 1st trumpet got so sloshed at lunch, Frank spent 40 hours trying to piece together one long song before calling it quits and moving on. On the other hand, he had long experience with ennui and boredom having grown up near Lancaster CA, near San Bernardino in the Low Desert, a place I lived in for over a year, that I can only imagine is like Australia in every way. Comparing with Bumblebeez "Ride the pony" video, that is.

If you guys are dealing with adhocery, I'm really sorry, I don't mind removing redlinks from suspicious lists, but I had just alphabetized all those private universities and was putting extlinks on the red ones. I'd like to say I'd look after the article at WPINDO levels of care, but what's the point of making a promise that could only be 50% true on first guess? Universities are on a 4th or 5th tier of importance after basic geo, gov and corporate article creation. I'll follow your general trends and suggestions in this, it seems like a wisely-run portal area.

I like labels, like Rififi District, Bristol County, Arusha Region. I can't do without 'em. For African first level geo subdivisions, I just go and transform the few extant non-labeled subdivisions on the way to making a fully populated category viz Category:Districts of Kenya. The Indonesia provinces don't seem to be as manageable viz tranforming all to ________ Province format. The place makes me thoughtful is why I guess.

IN re AGF, I'm a saint of agf, always getting blindsided by CSDs for perfectly notable topics with very nice start articles created: I am maybe too not-liberal for Wikipedia, find it difficult to be anti-corporate in any way (when it comes to company research).

Have a nice day.

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Edits

I'm not very good with sources so I could do with an opinion; is http://www.austadiums.com/ a reliable source? (I'm thinking it should be, because it is used on nearly every major Australian Sports ground article.

and this one; http://www.tastadiums.8m.com/ (I'm thinking it's not) Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 07:52, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Don't mind when, no rush! Don't blame you on a 37 degree day. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 08:03, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Howard

Just google search. Think of buzz words like "culture wars" ;-) Search reveals this as but one example. Timeshift (talk) 07:53, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cockburn Sound

What's your take on the northern boundary of Cockburn Sound? Some places say the Swan River mouth, others say Woodman Point. I don't have anything hard to quote from. Early journals etc. often seemed to infer that it included all up to the river, but contemporary material says otherwise. Djanga 01:23, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ping. Djanga 12:05, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Gibb River Road/Mt.Hart

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Map of Australia/Tasmania

If you have a better map available, by all means, change it, I'm would not be offended at all. The very size of Australia however makes it very hard to create a map that will be recognisable and yet also detailed enough. I gave a map of Tasmania a quick try but most people propably think Tasmania only exists in Warner Brothers cartoons. This said, if a map of Tasmania seems to be the better choice in your eyes, go ahead by all means. EA210269 (talk) 09:13, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tassie exist, I've been there, I vouch for that. EA210269 (talk) 09:20, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sumatera / Sumatra

Thanks for correcting my errors. Will keep in mind the next time. - Bob K | Talk 10:44, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Queenstown

I noticed you fixed up the caption of that panoramic photo i uploaded. thanks for that, i also have another panoramic photo including the oval but missing large parts of the town, you reckon thats worth having on the queenstown article instead? Wiki ian 03:34, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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thanks for your tips, all the best Glebesam (talk) 05:46, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

per phonecon

Australia–Indonesia relations was what I was thinking of. Djanga 07:22, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Whicher Range

I don't have much on it either, same links to oil companies and stuff as you do I suspect but not much on the grographical features. I may have another look about online and see if I can find anything else of use. --Hughesdarren (talk) 07:29, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've kicked things off and created the article with the scant geographic/geologic info available online, but I'll have to continue tomorrow after I get some sleep, Cheers --Hughesdarren (talk) 13:04, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The author above also created Carbunup River, which mentions the range (that I had never of) and a State forest (which I had). That is as much as this geographically challenged ed can come up with. P.S., can you glance over W. J. Rainbow in case it ends up somewhere prominent, like the front page or AfD. Cheers, cygnis insignis 13:45, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't mind at all ;) However, that is not why I asked, I'm too shy to go around spamming people until some poor fellow editor copyedits my miscellanea. And I didn't want to mention, after yer warnin', that that was found by ogling the earth you mention ... ed. My guess, in my ignorance, was that the oil-ng-gas giants hired some unemployed boffin to find an obscure name, for a well known well site to cite for a well-noun, that would make the investors cheer a new development and the public apathetic on the SEP principle. If you follow me. Actually, don't do that, I' m having nightmares about widows, hourglasses and wheat beer from freo. I don't expect you to follow that! See ya when I'm lookin' at ya. cygnis insignis 14:32, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Moon of Pejeng

On March 12, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Moon of Pejeng, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Congratulations! PeterSymonds (talk) 10:07, 12 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Pardon delays, meat world stuff. This is great, why did I fail to suggest it? I take what I hear in Ubud with a grain of salt, but this topic was obviously special - like the elephant cave (can't think what the proper name of that was) Cheers! cygnis insignis 13:43, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh right, I'm on the internet - doh! It is Goa Gajah. cygnis insignis 13:47, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Only recently created too, spooky. There is a lot more to it since you were there, connecting it up to the Water Temple economy. I notice there is no mention of pachyderm features!? cygnis insignis 14:32, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Towns etc

It's not that I don't get the opportunity to often to exercise my area of expertise. Dan arndt (talk) 13:23, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

id translations

Again, these were already tagged (this time with the WP:ECHO banner). See Category:Wikipedia featured articles in other languages (Indonesian). Most of these I am detagging (see e.g. [7], [8], etc), and a few I am converting to the new templates. (The templates now have a fa=yes parameter in case anyone cares about this, so as not to disrupt an already existing system.) If you want to detag the rest of the ones in the FAOL category, that is fine with me. Feel free also to detag the ones I have converted. If you want to go to Category:Wikipedia featured articles in other languages you can see other Indonesian languages. Feel free to detag those also. Again, I am just trying to convert things to one consistent system. I don't care if they're tagged or not. Calliopejen1 (talk) 02:20, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I also asked at WP:VPR if we could mass detag them (which was my proposal) but people opposed me. If you agree with me that the vast majority of the requests are totally worthless, go add your support there for a mass bot detagging. Calliopejen1 (talk) 02:21, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ashtamangalam: 'shell script' (sankhalipi)

ThanX ü
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Re: RecentChanges

Probably you have to be on an extreme sugar high or something ... I don't know. Some people describe navigating the RecentChanges list with Huggle as like playing a video game. But I dunno how they do it either ... some people have been monitoring that list for years. In the old days, one person could review an entire days' edits using the recent changes - those days are long gone. Graham87 12:04, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The beauty of flagged revisions will be that you'll be able to verify that someone has checked out an edit. Then you can ideally flip down the list and think "OK, users X, Y, and Z have checked out these edits, but these ones haven't been checked yet". Of course that will fall apart in practice ... people will forget/refuse to mark edits as patrolled, and it can sometimes take a good few hours to find out whether an edit is a good one. Graham87 12:15, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, fair enough ... I wish I had better mobility skills sometimes so I didn't have to rely on a parent as a taxi, so to speak. I just got that barnstar to enhance the reputation I have in real life ... during silent reading at primary school, I would hardly read through fiction and just read Brailled maths books, encyclopedias, atlases, etc. Graham87 12:25, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yikes, I just noticed the Grawp vandalism to my user page. It comes with the job of being an admin these days, I suppose. Graham87 03:40, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ducking Bankers

BNI - Bank Negara Indonesia, literally Indonesia State Bank (or State bank of..) is a state-owned commercial bank. BI is the central bank. Just to add to the confusion, BNI did actually act as the central bank for a while in the 1940's and issued currency.... Don't get too stressed about these things. The secret is to spend hours writing obscure articles that you think are interesting but that nobody ever reads (except fellow project members who follow around creating the talk pages and putting the project tags on them - for which, thanks). I've even got a blog about the elections I'm secretly proud of but that nobody reads...and do I care? Davidelit (talk) 15:48, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poets etc

It's not something I'd noticed. Maybe we're watching different poets - I tend to look at those up to WWII and not many of them are self-editing these days. Any names you can think of? If you want to take this off-WP follow the links to my webpage/weblog and email me from there. --Perry Middlemiss (talk) 22:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Let me know if you have any trouble or need some help. As I said though, my expertise (if it lies anywhere at all) doesn't extend to modern Australian poets. --Perry Middlemiss (talk) 04:28, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

... for the welcome, suggestion and offer of tips. OldYokel (talk) 21:55, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indonesia Wikiproject

Regarding the discussion I recently have had with User:Caniago, it was basically just about some minor layout changes to the Indonesia article, which you can read about on Caniago's talk page. I wanted to include List of Indonesia-related topics and Outline of Indonesia in the "see also" section. Right now both of those are linked in Template:Indonesia topics, which is what is currently in the see also section on Indonesia. I have not made any edits to those actual list and outline articles though. You might want to talk to someone from WP:WikiProject Outline of knowledge about the contents of those articles as they are the ones that are working on the outline project. LonelyMarble (talk) 04:32, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Those two articles could definitely use work. I don't think it hurts much to link them in the Indonesia topics template along with the other links there. That might help improve those articles quicker at least. LonelyMarble (talk) 13:16, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Islands

I admit Boo Islands probably don't have any RS except if you look on maps, they are there. This is the case with a lot of Indonesian island chains. However, one of the points is that vast swaths of islands in Indonesia are completely missing from Wikipedia. You may think that is ok, but I don't. Nothing has to be said about these islands initially, except simple characteristics. I think people will be daunted to add in information about them, unless the articles already exist, because locating the islands can be a real daunting task otherwise. Adding in island chains in the first step, then adding in islands under them, so we can create an organized and proper hierarchy on wikipedia. They may seem like specks on a map, but realize that these islands support human life. Doseiai2 (talk) 10:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Abdul Gani Asyik

First of all, I don't consider myself a deletionist neither an inclusionist. I think current WP policy is very clear on what is notable and what isn't. I got to this article from NPP which I spend most of my time on. Other than that, most of my edits are WP:RCP. Guy0307 (talk) 02:31, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Coastal Regions

I was just having a look, needs a fair ammount of work but I'm not sure if I can find much info (especially online) Sigh... not like rivers.... --Hughesdarren (talk) 13:22, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: slow down

Well, as for Hesperian's advice (regarding Huggle), I'm not really using it very actively at the moment. I'm focusing my attention on other projects as was suggested during my RfA.

As for the Suzuki club article, you're right, I probably could have speedied it, but there are times where I tend to be cautious about nominating stuff for CSD when it's questionable whether or not it would qualify for it...again, another issue that was brought up at my RfA. Originally, I tried to CSD it as non-notable, but decided that I couldn't specifically disprove that (or rather, didn't want to). Therefore, I decided to go the safe route and prod it instead. Matt (talk) 03:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Leuser References

Hi SatuSuro,

Thankyou for your help it is very much appreciated. This article is important to me and I want to get it right. I appreciate all feedback. I will work on my referencing now.

(Leuser500 (talk) 05:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Abdul Gani Asyik

Thank you very much for your appreciation and your support. It's hard to prove Asyik's notability by Google only. In fact, Asyik is the prominent linguist in Acehnese language and he is the first linguist--if I may say like that--who do almost complete research about Acehnese language. And then Durie follow him. Sorry for my English. ^_^ Seulimeung (talk) 08:58, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indonesian villages

Hello. I don't know why you chose to contact me about that, since I neither speak Indonesian, nor am I actively involved in the Indonesia project. My advice as a member of Pages Needing Translation though would be posting your request for attention on the translation project talk page. When you find Indonesian language village stubs, please place the {{notenglish|Indonesian}} template on them and insert a notice on WP:PNT. The general guidelines on naming are, that a correct transscription into Latin letters should be used for titling articles on foreign language subjects, with simplified redirects that avoid diacritics and such. If the place already has an anglicised name (cf. Munich vs. München), the "English" version should be used as title. De728631 (talk) 09:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, I'd be happy to help you guys. I think that there's a consensus on geographical places being notable per se, so including tiny villages isn't necessarily a problem. Falling Rain provides coordinates for even the most remote places on earth and can therefore serve as a reference for the existence of otherwise unknown places. I like to use this page to feed the infobox settlement template, which gives such articles a somewhat more important look than just a one-liner and a stub tag. De728631 (talk) 09:15, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, if you're getting too much stubs at once, how about redirecting them to the respective group of islands, provinces, etc. and then naming the village in there? I do see the risk of lists being created by this procedure, another unfavourable aspect, but I don't really see a solution for this either. De728631 (talk) 09:25, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! By the way, please have a look at Prabumulih. If there's some more text on the ID Wiki, Google translations can work wonders. De728631 (talk) 10:19, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem, I was just trying to point out how one could possibly flesh out some of the one-liners. Reference in English is of course preferable. De728631 (talk) 16:15, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indonesian National Football Results

I understand your comments on my talk page, but please see that the page in question has links to other pages in Wiki, for example 2011 AFC Asian Cup qualification. So if a viewer was interested, then surely they would click on the link to see more valuable information?

Many more nations have their results shown and not linked to other sources on the web, if this was so, the page would be over complicated, whereas other pages on Wiki are used for this scenario.

If you want the page improving, how could it be improved? Their are no English sources available other than stating in an External links area to view www.fifa.com etc.

Would appreicate your thoughts, as i wouldn't like to enter more information if the page was suddenly deleted, but generally I'm just tryign to improve the Indonesian articles in footballing terms with factual information that simply cannot be sourced via the web. Druryfire (talk) 10:31, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, thank you for your understanding.

I will amend when time permits. Druryfire (talk) 18:34, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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North Beach Line

Must be an AFD candidate. But for what: it's mistitled, incomprehensible and non-notable. Any thoughts? Davidelit (talk) 04:34, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

and WP:SOURCE. In short, a waste of server space. Davidelit (talk) 04:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry, but could you point out some specific articles? I just looked at a few at random and didn't see anything particularly concerning. Thanks, Nick-D (talk) 10:10, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mount Lyell Mining and Railway Company

Even me, living in far away WA, has heared of them. If you are questoning why I removed Category:Copper mines in Australia, its a company and therefore listed under Category:Mining companies of Australia. I've been trying to sort through the mining articles and put them into their right categories, thats why I moved it. A Mount Lyell copper mine article might be needed but there is so many mines in Australia, so much to do! EA210269 (talk) 07:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm - I used to work for them (and have about 20 books about the operations and history) and to create separate articles I would be reuctant at this stage (which Is why I was trying to keep the material together and leave the copper mine stuff and why the text is in the category as well) - too many issues as well - I would still try to keep the material about the mine operation as part of the company - but hell 'Mount Lyell copper mine' is a complete furphy - I wont be able to do much until May on the article - god knows what you and K the canuk will get up to in that time :( Satu Suro 07:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, I will restore the category and you get done what you can when you can. like I said, writing about mining in Australia is not a quick taks, I'm only doing tiny bits at a time, just WA alone blows you away! To have an article on every active mine here could take years, and then they close on you! Take it easy, enjoy does last days of summer here, EA210269 (talk) 08:03, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think, a List of active mines in Western Australia whould be a nice start. EA210269 (talk) 08:10, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, same, my doggy wants a walk. Regarding the inactive mines, if you can come up with a comprehensive list, the government would propably like to buy that. There was a job going for a Geo here some years back, going out and finding all the old abandoned mine sites and mapping them. The WA government doesn't know where half of them are! EA210269 (talk) 08:18, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Made a bit of a start with List of active Gold Mines in Western Australia,just humble beginings. EA210269 (talk) 12:52, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, lost you there! Just change what you think needs changing, working on a map for it right now. EA210269 (talk) 13:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You mean, it being a list? I know, they're not my favorite either but they can be helpful to determine what you got an article of and what not. See it as a form of inventory. EA210269 (talk) 13:16, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, bit slow on the pick up. You wouldn't know the coordinates for Telfer by heart? Never mind, I will find them. Have a good one! EA210269 (talk) 13:21, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Saves me firing up the laptop to get to Google Earth, havn't got it on this computer. You are not a Geo, are you? And I spoke to you!!! Arghhhh!!! EA210269 (talk) 13:30, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. Its not that I got anything against Geo's, its just that I'm married to one. You have a good night, I'm not far from knocking off, too. EA210269 (talk) 13:34, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've been reading the external link you added to the list, quite interesting. Anyway, thats my excuse for still being here! EA210269 (talk) 14:21, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunatly, I can't get her to interessted in wikipedia, she barely shows any interesst in her ongoing PhD! EA210269 (talk) 02:59, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tanami is a strange one, it is listed under WA in a number of sources but definetly is in NT. The companies website is under construction, not much there but my assumption is, that their leases stretch into WA, quite possible, considering how close it is and how remote the place is. How else would want to go up there exploring? Anyway, a source is needed to clarify things some more, till then I propose we leave it in the WA section, its on the WA of your source, too. EA210269 (talk) 03:09, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hobart

I've changed the rating of Hobart to C-class, hopefully you agree with me. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 05:26, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]