Volume 1, Number4

December 1992

Abductions -Budd Hopkins

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Walcha vehicle interference case

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Holograms and UFOs

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ISSN 1038-1015
December 1992

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A possible vehicle interference case near

Walcha, September 1988- McGhee & Dickeson

UFO Expo 1992- Reports (Part I)

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How to recognise signs of UFO abductions Hopkins

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How ETs seem to think- Jenkins

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A history of the abduction phenomenon -

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Holograms and UFOs- Decker

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Sex, aliens and videotape

Bryan Dickeson

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since mid-1992, UFOR(NSW) has

been lookmg at setting up a UFO
abductee support group to deal
with an increasing number ofrequests for such a service. The
need for such a facility has become more urgent (and more
likely) since Budd Hopkins
made a short speakmg tour to
Australia in October 1992. This
issue of UFO Reporter concentrates on addresses made by
speakers at the Sydney UFO
Seminar of 17-18 October 1992
at the Hyatt Kingsgate Hotel,
and especially the abductee talks
given by Budd Hopkms.
The abductee phenomenon
has become a major issue for
UFO investigators in recent
years.
Properly handled, it offers us
an opportunity to research fascinating new areas previously
thought inaccessible. However,
because such research deals with
people's experiences and emotions at a very personal level, it
poses difficult problems for investigators and requires trust, an
ethical approach and confk\entiality.
At present, public interest in
the subject is both intense and
fashionable - UFO abductions
are sensationally promoted by
the press as a potent mix of sex
and the truly bizarre. Most abductees rightly fear the intense
interest public disclosure can
bring. At the same time, many
UFO investigators cannot han-

December 1992

dle the mix, and avoid the subject outright, as dangerous and
possibly tainted. Yet, if UFO abductees cannot get support from
UFO investigators, where can
they go?
Unfortunately, there have
been a number of overseas exampleswhereconfidentialityrequirements have been ignored,
and where abductees have been
viciously ostracised.
Here in Sydney there are disturbing signs that there may be
'other' sorts of unhealthy interest in the subject. At a general
meeting of UFOR(NSW) in
SuiTy Hills on Sunday 6 December 1992, the subject of an abduction support group was again
high on the evenings agenda.
There had been the usual number of small technical problems,
and it was decided at the last
minute to transfer the main discussion on abductees to the second half of the evening's
program. Because of the sensitivity of the topic, all videoing
was expressly forbidden at the
request of abductees and members present.

One member arriving late,

brushed past a man standing just
inside the door. He noticed this
man had something unusual
concealed in a woollen jersey he
was carrying. It appeared to be a
video camera with the lens poking out and pointed towards the
front, and the viewfinder pointing upwards. The member mentioned this to an usher inside
who dutifully decided to challenge the cameraman. As the
usher walked to the door the
man retreated outside and
crossed the road; he was seen to
get into the back of a bright blue
car and pull the hatchback down
after him. The windows of the
car had un'Wual heavy brown
curtains and smoked glass windows.
There was a young woman,
probably in her early twenties,
sitting in the driver's seat and
the usher requested that she let
him speak to the cameraman to
tell him that filming was not allowed. She became agitated and
uncooperative, telling him to go
away, and wound up the window. The usher returned to the

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hall, borrowed a video camera

and returned to the car, moving
around it and filming it. After
one or two minutes the young
woman seemed to get fed up,
started the car and moved off. By
this time, the interval had begun.
Several members leaving the
hall for a break noticed the final
stages of the car-filming episode
and saw it retreat down Norton
Street into the distance. No one
has seen either the man or the
woman at meetings before or
since.
The incident upset some attendees and left others extremely annoyed. The tactic is
similar to procedures used elsewhere by Australian security organisations and is not
considered appropriate. Perhaps security agencies are looking for new business, or reviving
some old business now that the
Cold War is officially over. In
future we may have to organise
such meetings more tightly; to
have 'members only' meetings
and close the doors and secure
them.
And yet the need to really
look at the abductee phenomenon remains. A recent survey in
the United States conservatively
estimated that about 2% of the
population there have had some
kind of abduction experience a staggering 5 million people.

Before the survey, American

UFO investigators had thought
the abductee population would
be only several thousand.
This figure of 2% suggests
there may be up to 120,000 abductees in New South Wales
alone. One doctor/hypnotherapist here, who has accumulated
a number of abductee clients
over the last few years, has said
he considered 95% of the cases
he dealt with were not true
'alien' abductions. The American experience suggests that his
estimate, made so early on here,
is very conservative (this still
. suggests that at the very least,
6000 persons in NSW may be affected).
Other anecdotal information
now coming to hand here suggests that local abduction phenomena have a similar 'quality'
and 'richness of detail' as those
reported from the USA. There is
also some suggestion that abductees may be more concentrated in some social and
professional groupings.
However, what comes out
clearest of all is that the level of
disturbance caused by the experiences is profoundly disturbing
for some abductees. Their symptoms are comparable to those for
rape victims. An abductee frequently feels utterly alone, unable to communicate their

experience to others, even those

closest and dearest. In Australia
with its mixture of ethnicities
and family values, some abductees feel particularly marginalised.
When setting up an abduction group, the basic approach
you adopt appears to be all-important. One Australian UFO
group has been trying to get
medical health professionals involved in research for over six
years, by advertising in newspapers and special press releaseswith minimal results.
Two other organisations operating abductee support
groups have used a very low key
approach with much more success. The needs of abductees
been made the primary consideration. By networking and carefully referral, appropriate
abductee cases can be handled
sympathetically and discreetly.
At present, the priority is to
provide discrete, confidential
support for those abductees under great emotional and personal stress.
Abductees need recognition
and concern for their particular
problems, and the possibility of
some kind of rehabilitation
through contact with other abductees.
Any research can come later.

Corrections
In the last issue of UFO Reporter, there were slight errors in two addresses provided for UFO
organisations:
INUFOR (Independent Network of UFO Researchers
PO Box783
KOGARAH NSW 2217, Australia

UPERS (Unexplained Phenomena Research

Society)
c/o 9 Leo Street
Bishopdale
CHRISTCHURCH 5, New Zealand

We apologise for these errors.

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Vehicle interference

A possible vehicle interference case

near Walcha?
Moira McGhee and Bryan Dickeson
This inddent was first notified to Lad Godic (UFORA, Adelaide) by letter dated 11 Dece:mber 1988, and investigated

by us from December 1988March 1989. A report was first published in the UFO Research Australia Newsletter,
May 1989 (Vol 7, No. 1). Our thanks to Lad Godic and Keith Basterfield ofUFORA for their suggestions and for
conecting some of the original astronomical data.
A much shorter version of this report has also recently been reproduced in Keith Smith's book Supernatural No. 2.
After completing work on Thursday 22
September 1988, Mr F drove from Port
Macquarie to Armidale via Walcha to
bring his son and a friend from The
University of New England back home
to Port Macquarie.
At about 1930 hrs, Mr F was travelling at around 100-105 krn per hour in a
west-northwest direction along a
straight section of the Oxley Highway
some 8-10 km before Walcha, when his
car suddenly lost power.
Within a few seconds his speed
dropped to about 60 krn per hour (down
to second gear), and Mr F thought the
car would start misfiring and stop altogether (position: 30 590.5' south, 151o
392' east).
The power loss persisted for about
ten minutes, until the lights of Walcha
township came clearly into view some
. 1-2 km away. Full engine power then
returned just as quickly as it had faded,
and he continued through Wa!cha,
turned North onto the Uralla Road and
carried on to Armidale without further
problems.
The Oxley Highway and Uralla
Road are little used during weekday
evenings and Mr F says he saw only one
or two other vehicles on the road during
his entire journey. He saw no other traffic in the area at the time.
This occurred early evening and Mr
Fwas concerned because at around 1930
hrs, it would have been difficult for him
to get mechanical help locally.

Mr F did not have the car radio on at

all, because reception in this area is usu.
ally poor.
Some moments before his car began
to lose power, Mr F had noticed a definite, bright reddish-orange light (a
fairly steady point source, like a large
star) through the windscreen, about 20
degrees up from the horizon in the early
night sky, and directly ahead of him.
The colour was described as 'more red
than orange', but different to any traffic
light colours.
Mr F mentioned that there is a TV
tower with a red light on it perched on
a hill2-3 krn north of Walcha. The light
is not always visible from the road, depending on your relative position, but
the tower is a prominent feature in the
locality and well-known to Mr F The
road to Arrnidale skirts well clear of the
hill and tower, to the south then the west
as you go thmugh Walcha.
Mr F could not identify the red light
in the sky as being the normal tower
light (it was far too high up and too far
south) and he thought this was unusual
at the time. Mr F also believed the red
light was considerably closer than the
tower, somewhere between his car and
Walcha and possibly only a hundred
metres or so up in the air; certainly
lower than 300 m. Once his car began
misbehaVing, he was unable to continue
viewing the odd light and could not
remember exactly when he no longer
noticed it

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Povver Grids and
Abductions
Canada is not that much different from the USA in thatitshares
similar cultural values and beliefs which are shaped by consumerism and technology. We
have almost identical abductee
accounts which involve similar
[alien] species, actions and descriptions. In contrast, the Commonwealth of Independent
States (formerly the USSR), has
produced a very different manifestation of the phenomenon.
Over the last four years of
intense abduction research, I
have come across a most interesting piece of information: in
almost every abduction case we
have investigated involving
families with either small children or pregnant mothers, our
investigators have found highvoltage power lines (lego-like
towers) close nearby.
When these statistics
emerged late 1990, endless
speculation ensued, such as electromagnetic 'windows' being
created which allowed interdimensional craft, UFOs recharging, and so on. This information
was not new, except that before
it had only been associated with
UFO sightings. Now we have established a link with alien abductions.
,
An Associated Press article
dated 14 November 1992 cites a
Swedish study which found
"children exposed to relatively
weak magnetic fields from
power lines near their homes develop leukaemia at almost four
times the expected rate". The
study looked at 500,000 children
and adults who lived near transmission lines.

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It is my theory that the controllers of the abduction phenomenon are doing a survey of
genetic damage in the infants
who live near these grids, and
may even be correcting the harm
done.
We are collecting cases from
UFO researchers from all parts
of the world which may shed
light on this connection. Anyone
with similar correlative information may forward it to:

Lome Goldfader, UFORIC

Dept25
1665 Robson Street
Vancouver BC
CANADA V6G 3C2

Abduction investigations in
Australia are still not very well developed, and this sort ofpawer grid
data may not be readily available yet
-perhaps some of our readers can
help Mr Goldfader (Eds)

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Mr F continued to Armidale, collected his son and the friend and made
the return journey. After passing
through Walcha, on the slight upward
slope heading east-southeast away
from the town, and at exactly the same
position on the Oxley Highway as his
car had 'come right' on the way up, the
car experienced exactly the same power
loss as before. The time was a little after
2200 hrs, and his car speedometer
showed the same loss of velocity (from
100-105 to 60 krnper hour).
While this deceleration was taking
place, the air temperature inside the car
rapidly dropped from 'normal' to chilly

("Itwas likewalkinginto a cool-room, or like

getting out of the car when I made a trip to
the Blue Mountains one winter's day some
years ago - venj eerie"). All of the car's
windows were closed and the car heaters only slightly on, mostly for ventilation (lt was a mild evening). The other
two people in the car noticed and referred to the drop in temperature.
There was no apparent change in air
pressure, and no condensation formed
on windows or any internal car surfaces. The small airflow into the car
seemed to continue at the 'near-normal'
temperature, but did not reduce the cold
inside at all. It was cold enough to make
them all want to start shivering after
several minutes. There was no misting
of the breath by the cooler air.
Glancing at the engine temperature
gauge, Mr F saw it drop steadily from
one-third way round the dial (the car's
normal running temperature at around
80 degrees Celsius) to zero, at the same.
time as the loss of power.
As before, Mr F noticecj. a red point
source of light through his windscreen
(some 20 degrees up in the east-southeast night sky). He was unable to give
this light much attention during the ten
minutes or so that the cooling and loss
of power lasted.
When they carne to the same point
on the road where the car had first
started to lose power on the way up to
Armidale, the engine returned to normal. The temperature gauge rose from

December 1992

zero to normal, and the air inside the car

soon warmed up. No other traffic
passed them on the road during this
time.
The three then completed the remainder of their journey without further incident
Mr F has made the round trip to
Armidale about a dozen times in the
two years before September 1988, and
several times since. The journey takes
him just on three hours each way, and
this particular round trip was no exception (that is, there was very little or no
extra time involved in this trip, no time
not-accounted for).
Mr F, his son and his son's friend all
reported that they felt somewhat more
tired than usual for about a week after
the event, but that there were no enduring side effects.
Mr F' s car is a 4-door, Chrysler
Sigma GE (1979) with a 2litre Astron
OHC (overhead cam) engine, a 12V
electrical system, and electronic ignition. The engine temperature gauge
comprises a bimetallic strip and thermistor device. Mr F's particular model
has a second thermistor circuit linked to
a flashing light on the dashboard to indicate when fuel in the petrol tank is ,.
almost empty. This second system did
not register anything unusual during
the period of engine power loss, although it did operate normally and start
blinking towards journey's end near
Port Macquarie, when fuel was getting
low. Mr F does much of his own car
servicing and has not had any other vehicle troubles of the kind reported for
the evening of 22 September (loss of
power, temperature gauge malfunction), before or since.

Weather conditions
The local weather conditions for two
days either side of 22 September were
stable and rain-free (caused by a slowmoving anticyclone situated to the
northwest of NSW). This anticyclone
produced a slight westerly airflow over
the area around W alcha during the time
ofMr F's trip.

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Astronomical

considerations

The following astronomical data show the conditions for 22 September 1988
Sunset at 1751 hrs (dark by about 1810 hrs)
Southern vernal equinox
23 September 1988
Next full moon
26 September at 0507 hrs
(East Coast Daylight Saving began Sunday 30 October 1988)
Planetary positions

Mercury

Rises
0636

Sets
1954

Venus
Mars
Jupiter
Saturn

0343
1809
2259
1022

1426
0629
0911
0040

bright, but very low in western sky

(less than 5 above the horizon)
not eligible
not eligible
not eligible
not eligible

Prominent stars
Vega (a-Lyrae)

Mag 0.0, bright white, less than 20 above north-nortl1west horizon at

1930 hrs
Antares (a -Scorpii) Mag 1.2, red giant, approximately 45 above west-southwest horizon at
1930hrs
Hamal ( a-Arietis)
Mag 2.0, (colour not found), approximately 10 above east-northeast
horizon at 2155 hrs
Achernar (a-Eridani) Mag 0.6, blue-white, approximately 50 above south-southeast horizon at
2155 hrs
Neither Mercury nor any of these prominent stars are near the object's position, as noted at
either time by Mr F.

Normal outdoor air temperature for

the area at 1930 hours would have been
around 21-23 degrees and the humidity
less than 65 per cent; and at 2200 hours
between 15-20 degrees and the humidity less than 70 per cent.

Altitude and terrain

The particular stretch of road is at 1050llOOm altitude, slightly undulating,
with several road cuttings. There is an
overall gentle upward slope inland,
heading westwards.
A transverse section of the area is
attached. This indicates that on first approaching W alcha, the TV tower and
light would have been very low on the
horizon (sample lines-of-sight indicate
below 5 degrees altitude, until well inside the affected zone and only a few
kilometres from Walcha itself). Most of

all, the rolling terrain mostly obscures

the tower and light when approaching
from the east).
Two prominent granite bluffs (up to
1200m altitude) just to the north of the
road and in the middle of the affected
zone, are of some interest and would
seem to indicate that the object was located between these and the road.
The local terrain is mostly rolling,
open country with very occasional
patches of scrub. Geologically, the area
comprises ancient lower Permian migmatites of metamorphosed schists or
gneiss. There are occasional basaltic
outcrops (bluffs) of more recent origin
(that is, tertiary intrusive alkaline basalts, or dolerite)
Walcha is a small town with a population of around 3400. It was a centre for
Manganese mining earlier this century

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but the mines are now closed. The surrounding land still includes a number of
mining leases and concession areas.
Generally, the area is sparsely populated, with scattered farming properties.

Unusual

effects

The four unusual effectsreported were:

1 Loss of power by the engine
The Chrysler Sigma GE car manuals list
four possible causes:
0 Wear and tear of the distributor contacts
0 Failure of the vacuum advance unit
0 Malfunction of the vacuum advance
unit
0 Failure oftheelectronicignitionsystem
All these causes would normally require some attention by a qualified mechanic and, except for the third cause,
would recur without replacement of
parts. (the tird cause might require the
reconnection of a loose vacuum pipe,
for example)
2 Loss of heat within vehicle
There was no detectable atmospheric
pressure loss, so the temperature drop
cannot be attributed to a sudden loss of
pressure. The temperature drop reported could have been of the order of
10-15 degrees Celsius.
The three common mechanisms for
transfer of heat are conduction, convection, and radiation.

Radiative heat loss to the outside.

atmosphere of 10-15 degrees over a
few seconds is an unlikely cause of
the cooling because the outside air
temperature would have had to be a
couple of hundred degrees below
zero Celsius - this external temperature differential is extremely
unlikely (as confirmed by Mr F). A
10-15 degree reduction in temperature is conservatively suggested
here, as this would not necessarily
cause human breath to condense as
a vapour, given the 'normal' low

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humidity range existing outside at

the time.
0 The car interior provided an enclosed air volume, so convection can
be ruled out
0 Conduction effects are usually observed in solids (especially metal
objects), containing a temperature
differential, and occur relatively
slowly
Conventional heat transfer methods
therefore seem unlikely.
3 Temporary malfunction of
engine thermometer
There are no known physical effects
which can extract the heat energy from
a substantial metallic mass such as an
engine block (and its integral water
cooling system) and then return the
same amount of energy to the block
some minutes later. Therefore, it may be
more useful to consider the temperature
gauge malfunctioned in some way.
The temperature gauge uses a bimetallic strip and a semiconductor thermistortypesendingunit Whenoneend
of the bimetallic strip is heated, it generates a small electic current which is stabilised by the sensitive thermistor and
registered on the instrument panel. ,.,
Semiconductor operations can be affected by external electromagnetic
fields which increase their electrical
conductivity and greatly reduce their
sensitivity. ln the presence of an external electric field the heat gauge needle
would drop. However, it should be
noted that the car's metal body would
largely shield the thermistor from such
an effect.
The low fuel registration thermistor
operates on a slightly different principle
to the temperature gauge. The thermistor is a small cylinder attached to the
interior of the fuel tank and connected
to the car 12 volt system so that a small
current flows through it. Thermistors
are susceptible to changes in temperature (their electrical resistance decreases
as their temperature rises!), so once the
device is no longer bathed or cooled by
petrol in the tank, the electric current

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Interference zone

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Transverse section (A-B)

Altitude {metres above sea level)

Object's loCation?

( Nota: vertical scale exaggerated

by a factor of 12.5)

TV tower

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Bush (below nearest bluff)

1100

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1000

Apsley River

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western marg\n L.

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wiring, or car type.

More generally, electromagnetic effects associated with thermal changes,
or thennoelectric effects, are usually restricted to small-scale, or localized electrical circuitry. Heating effects are quite
common here, but cooling effects are
rare probably irrelevant for our purposes.
Magnetocaloric effects involving
heat removal by a magnetic field are
4 Tiredness in the witnesses
extremely rare and as far as we know,
are usually reserved for small-scale,
At this stage, it is almost impossible to
specialist laboratory applications. The
assess the cause and extent of this reonly known effect which might be inported effect. However, it deserves to be
volved is called adiabatic demagnetizarecorded for future reference.
tion. In the laboratory adiabatic
demagnetization is used to supercool
Electromagnetic
effecfs
liquid helium to within a fraction of a
Where some aerial object may be implidegree from absolute zero for expericated with vehicle interference effects,
mental purposes.
UFQ investigators frequently try to atThe process involves placing a
tribute some electromagnetic effects as
strongly paramagnetic substance (usuthe cause.
ally a complex transition-element salt)
Ideally, there is a preference for
into an electromagnetic field. Under the
finding one or two electromagnetic
'models' which combine and encominfluence of a magnetic field, the electrons which make the salt paramagnetic
pass all of the observed effects as neatly
as possible. On this occasion, it is very
line up in an orderly way, releasing heat
difficult to find suitable candidates for
in the process. This excess heat is reall four of the effects reported.
moved (by liquid helium coolant circulated through a reservoir of the salt).
For example, effects 1, 2, and 4, may
.~
be consistent with exposure to some
When the magnetic field is switched off,
high-intensity, high-frequency oscillatthe paramagnetic electrons un-align
ing magnetic field:
themselves, absorbing heat from their
Electronic ignition systems were inimmediate surroundings and cooling it
down.
stalled in all Sigma GEs after August
1978. These systems contain printed
The only reason why this process is
semiconductor circuitry which could be
worth considering here, is because atso affected by a strong external magmospheric oxygen molecules are signetic field as to cause temporary (but . nificantly paramagnetic. Under the
totally reversible) mis-timing.
influence of an extremely strong (and
However, it would be difficult to
possibly oscillating) magnetic field, the
recreate these three sorts dt effects unmagnetocaloric cooling effect might become significant.
der controlled conditions, using present
technical know-how.
However, the actual mechanisms
The rapid cooling of air reported
and conditions involved for adiabatic
inside the car is extremely unusual. Of
demagnetization inside the car are unsome 500 vehicle UFO-interference
clear - even if you make a few small
cases reported, one of us (McGhee) was
assumptions and use the appropriate
able to find only six cases which incalculations, you will get extremely
volved cooling (that is, just over 1 perhigh magnetic field values and frequencent). Unfortunately, none of these
cies. The metal of the car body would

causes the device to heat up slightly,

which further decreases the resistance.
The increasing current passing through
the thermistor causes the petrol low
level light to blink. This thermistor is
totally surrounded by petrol tank (that
is, doubly metal-shielded from an external magnetic field) and might therefore
not be affected by an external magnetic
field.

accounts include details of car ignition,

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have provided good magnetic shield-

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Vehicle interference

Other local incidents

During 1977-78 a number of unusual UFO incidents
were reported from the New England area, well
north of Walcha and to the east of Annidale. In one
instance, an object surrounded by an unusual mist was
reported.
The mist was considered unusual in this case because it seemed to be closely associated with the movement of the object observed. This may have been a case
where induced cooling of the surrounding atmosphere (by the object's electromagnetic field) caused
atmospheric water vapour to become visible. Unfortunately the report contains little detail of the shape of
the cloud around the object (this might indicate the
shape of an electromagnetic field), or how the cloud
changed in distribution and density as the object
moved, or any details of vapour streaming that might
be seen in such a cloud.
Meanwhile, the valuable detail available from reports such as this one should help us to refine the
possible range of 'electromagnetic effects' requb:ing
discussion and clarification.
ing, so the actual values involved could
have been much, much higher! Furthermore, while suggesting that the heat
loss might be due to some induced thermal radiation of heat energy due to the
paramagnetic properties of atmospheric oxygen within a metal cavity (the
car), I have been unable to find any scientific evidence a tall that this phenomenon can actually take place on this scale.
Perhaps the preference of UFO investigators for 'electromagnetic effects'
should be reviewed.
There are no accounts readily available in the literature of experbnentation
on paramagnetic substances (for example, molecular oxygen) at very high
field densities and frequencies.

Observation zone
Mr F informed us that other people had
mentioned unusual phenomena from
the same area around the same time someone out hunting observed a red
light and had trouble starting their car.
We have included an observation zone
diagram indicating those dwellings
around the epicentre for the red object

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where unusual effects might have been

noted. For geographical reasons, some
stations will have been out of observa-
tionrange.
For more corroborative material,
and details, we wrote to the local newspaper, the Walcha News, to see if they
could ask readers to contact us. Unfortunately, we have received no reply to
our enquiry.

Vehicle

cooling

Six instances of cooling of the vehicle's

interior cases were found among 500
vehicle interference cases.
D 21 July 1973: Gavignano, Corsica
(France) 2100 hrs (FSR vol. 23, no.6)
D 24 September 1974: Eggardon Hill
(Newport-Bridgport England) 0010
hrs (BUFORA)
D 4 August 1963:. Wayne City, Illinois
(USA) 2330 hrs (CUFOS)
D July 1975: Poatina Highway, Tasmania (Australia) 0320 hrs
(ACUFOS)
D 11 October 1967: Aldersyde, Alberta
(Canada) 2000 hrs (CUFOS)
D 22 June 1977- Gula, Canary Islands
(Spain) 2130 hrs (FSR vol23, no.3)

References
Sigma GE Series (1978-80) Service and
Repair Manual (2nd Edition Dec.1980)
Gregory's Scientific Publication No
116A

Chrysler Sigma G E Series Service Manual Book 2 (Revised Edition, April1981)

Olrysler Australia Ltd.

Electromagnetism- Principles and Application (Lorrain and Corson) 1979.

Walcha Central Mapping Authority
NSW Topological Map 1:25000 Series
No. 9236-III-S
Waterloo Central Mapping Authority NSW Topological Map 1:25000 Series No. 9235-M-N
DoJTigo-Coffs Harbour 1:250,000 Geological Series Sheet SH 56-10 & 11 (first
Ed.1971)
Hastings 1:250,000 Geological Series
Sheet SH 56-14 (Provisional first Ed.
1969) 0

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How to recognise signs of UFO abductions.

Budd Hopkins spoke first about some of his work on the UFO abduction phenomenon. Budd is the author of two
books, Missing Time and IntrucE:s - the latter was made into the television mini-series which was shown in
Australia during July 1992.
UFO abductions are a complex and
slightly upsetting subject. Before describing the phenomenon and the signs
or symptoms that could lead you to believe you have had this kind of experience, I would say that quite a few people
in this audience have had these experiences, whether they remember them or
not. However, just because you may
have a symptom of an abduction, this
does not automatically mean you have
been abducted, any more than a headache or fever is a symptom of a particular disease. A symptom can have other
explanations.
However, a typical pair of UFO abduction symptoms might be the fact
that when you were a small child you
were totally fascinated with astronomy
and spent much of your time looking at
the night sky. Sometimes it can be the
opposite - a terror of the night sky,
combined with an intense interest in.
UFOs. Now while most of you are here
today because of the latter symptom,
this does not necessarily mean anything
on its own.
Let's look at the kinds of thing that
might indicate you have had experiences that need to be carefully looked
into, whether you remember them in
vivid detail or not. There are five kinds
of symptoms known:

Missing-time

experiences

Many of you will be familiar with this

experience which can happen anywhere, even on a road and in a vehicle.
For example, a young couple was
driving back to New York from a weekend away at 5 pm one sunny Sunday.
With no sense of no time elapsing, the
very next instant all around was pitch
black - night time. They were still in

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their car but the car was not on the

highway. Itwas in the middle of a field,
and the engine and lights were off. This
transition from light to dark without
any sense of time passing, caused them
great concern (they had lost about six
hours). It took them a minute of bouncing over the field before they found a
track which finally led back to the highway. While this is a clear-cut example,
other occurrences are not so clear cut:
A man was working night shift in
the bakery of a large supermarket in
Cape Cod, Massachussetts. He and a
friend had to bake french bread at a
certain hour and took a break. They had
a cup of coffee and returned to work

UFO Expo 1992

A UFO expo was held at the Hyatt Kingsgate Hotel, Kings
Cross in Sydney on SatUJday 17 and Sunday 18 October,
1992. The expo featured talks by visiting fiFO investigators and displays by local UFO groups and exhibitors
About 250 people attended each talk given by three
ket;note speakers - Rosemary Decker (USA), Palden
Jenkins (UK), and Budd Hopkins (USA).
This report of their addresses is not intended as a
definitive account of what was discussed, or of the questions and answer sessions afterwards. It is provided as an
account Jar the record' and takenfrom personal notes made
at the Hyatt Kingsgate. While I have tried to be as accurate
as possible, some names, dates and data may be inconect.
I was particularly interested in the material provided
by Budd Hopkins, so his material has been reported here in
most detail. This is not intended as a slight to the other
speakets. However, Budd Hopkin's material includes a
wealth of new investigative detail which provides great
insight into the difficult area ofinvestigating UFO abductions.
Part 2 will appear in the next issue.
- Bn;an Dickeson

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pulling bread dough out of the refrigerator. (The dough has to prove, to
warm up to room temperature and
swell slightly.) The very next instantthey had not left the room - it was
about 4.15 am and 150 loaves of bread
had swollen too much and spoiled.
They looked at each
Just because you may have a other in amazement
symptom of an abduction, this - what had hapdoes not automatically mean pened? In this case,
you have been abducted. the spoilt bread and
a nearby clock told
them some time was
missing.
Many people
can have this kind of experience without actually noticing lost time. It can
happen in the bedroom. You getup you
go to the bathroom, come back to bed
and feel a strange' something'. The next
instant you are sitting on the edge of the
bed, or sitting up in the bed itself, and
you may notice from a nearby clock that
some time is missing. In many cases,
such experiences are clear indicators of
an abduction experience. Sometimes
missing time incidents appear to be benign when they happen in the middle of
the night, and you may not have any
conscious recollection of them.
Some years ago I received a phone
call from a doctor in Cambridge England who was doing research on UFOs.
He had a theory that missing time was
a psychological phenomenon that went
on in people's heads and not in the real
world.
Recently he called me to report a
dramatic incident which disproved his
theory and confirmed mine:
He had placed a newspaper advertisement to get people to come forward
with lost time experiences he could look
into. A retired English ex-police officer
had contacted him and told that something very upsetting had happened to
him ten years before. He had been driving his police car and was very careful
about time because he had to keep a log.
It was around 3 am. and he knew exactly where he was - travelling along
a small two-way country road with big

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ditches on either side. Itwas a relatively

cloudy night but it was not raining.
The very next instant (again no
sense of time passing) he was feeling
stunned and upset. He was in his car
feeling a lot of pain, and the car was now
upside down, resting on its roof which
was somewhat compressed. It was
pouring with rain outside and he felt
extremely thirsty. He opened the car
window to slither out to get help. He
had no broken bones but he was so
thirsty he ran his hand on the wet pavement to get some moisture to put
against his tongue.
Herealisedwhenheeasedoutofthe
car that the car was in exactly the same
place, near to a particular farmhouse, as
ithadbeeninhislastconscicusmemory
- he had not gone anywhere. He
limped over to the farmhouse to get
some help. The people in the farmhouse
were already awake and had just telephoned the police to report a loud crash
they'd heard minutes before down the
street.
What we believe happened was that
the policemen was abducted, car and
all. When they put the car back, they
made a mistake and dropped it upside
down. (Mistakes are a very interesting
part of abductions which I'll go into
later.)

Waking up and sensing a

presence in the room
The symptom of sensing a figure in the
room is characteristic. You may find
yourself completely paralysed, or you
may be in a very odd state physically.
For example, you have been asleep as
far as you knew, but when you wake up
you are sitting on the edge of the bed, or
sitting up without remembering you
were coming up to a more vertical position. There may be a little figure or several little figures visible nearby, or
maybe you just sense there are figures
in the room. If you are paralysed during
the experience, this can be quite terrifying.
Alternatively, you may see lights, or
unusual balls of light or something

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similar, in the room with you. Now I did

a radio program here recently and a
woman called in with a very precise
description of an experience her husband had. He had been to the bathroom
and was getting back into bed, when he
saw a thin fluorescent-tube column of
very bright red neon light in the corner
of the room. He stared at it wondering
whatitwas-itwasasifhewaslooking
at an illuminated object rather than just
a pool of light. It began to move very
slowly towards him and moved into a
horizontal position directly above their
bed. The object then emitted quick
flashes of light down towards herself
and her husband. Then the light moved
slowly back towards the comer of the
room and winked out.
The woman slept through this experience. Oddly enough, her htisband did
not wake her up - this behaviour is
also typical. People can do very irrational things sometimes because their
behaviour is actually being controlled.
The woman said her husband
thought the incident might have taken
5-7 minutes. Now most people exaggerate time or how long something
lasts. I tend to cut all estimates in half,
so if it was 5 minutes, lets say it was 2.5
minutes. This is still a long time and a
long time for him not to wake up his
wife. Now we don't know whether
there is more to this account or not, but
one of the basic things you have to look
for in these situations is the fact that
whenever you get something which is
so unusual and focussed on an individual - if something is moving over to
shine a light down on you and so on,
you have to be very suspicious that
maybe there's something more to the
experience than you can consciously remember.

Unusual scars on the body

Another symptom is the presence of unusual scars on the body that were not
there when you went to sleep that night,
or which turn up during the day and
you have no idea where they came
from. It can be very startling if you go to

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bed and everything is fine, and you

wake up and you have three cuts down
the middle of your back and there's no
blood anywhere. These unusual scars
are extremely significant and I will discuss them further when we look at some
examples on slides, later this session.

Emotional
over-reaction
Now a major, but hard to explain symptom is an emotional over reaction to
something. For example, somebody
will write to me and say they read my
book IntrUders and found it interesting,
fascinating, and so on. Then I'll get a
letter from somebody who says that it
took them six months to read it; they
threw the book across the room at least
four times, or. they had to go to the
bathroom and cry so their wife would
not see them crying, and so on - you
may get this kind of reaction. Or somebody will see a strange light in the sky.
For example, a woman and her two
daughters had a missing time experience in their car where they did not
know what had happened. About a
week or two after that experience there
was a party for the two teenage daughters, and their friends came. It was night
time, and somebody looked out the
window and said, "look at that, what is h.
it? Is it a UFO? Look
at those funny
lights." (It turned
People can do venJ irrational
out to be an aerothings sometimes because their
plane at low altibehaviour is actually being
tude, seen behind a
controlled.
bank of clouds so
that the flashing
strobe lights and the
plane were very diffused.) The reaction was that everyone
at the party ran towards the window,
except for the two teenage daughters .
.They started screaming and hiding under furniture in the house, climbing under the tables in panic, and shaking.
They had no idea why they were reacting that way. This kind of inappropriate
reaction can often show there is some
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A memory of flying through

the air
Another peripheral symptom is remembering somewhere that you were
actually flying through the air and that
you have no idea how or why it happened. That's very unusual. Apart from
those dreams of flying which we have
all had, there are many people who insist they actually flew through the air,
down to the factthatthey can remember
the landscape they were looking down
on, that they had never seen their house
from the top and there were all sorts of
leaves and things in the guttering, and
that the chimney is peculiar looking,
and so on. They had the absolute sense
they were looking down. Now questions get raised about various kinds of
out-of-body experiences, but I have
generally found with the UFO phenomenon that what is first perceived as
an out-of-body experience turns out on
investigation to be an out of the house
experience.
The five main symptoms which I
have listed as typical were used recently
as the basis for a survey in the United
States. This poll was financed by two
generous individuals and conducted by
the Roper organisation, a big US polling
organisation.

The Roper survey

1won't go into the complexity of the poll
but these questions were included
amongst a lot of other questions having
to do with the economy, politics, and so
on. The questions were placed in a very
serious context We did not mention
UFO abductions; what we did was conceal questions about abduction-type
symptoms, to see how common these
phenomena really are in peoples' lives.
The survey took place over three
months and sampled 6000 people, so it
had a low margin of error.
Before doing the survey we asked a
number of mental health professionals
what kind of answers we would normally expect to get. We asked them
what percentage of the American people would say in answer to one ques-

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tion, "Yes I've had a period of an hour

or more in which I was lost and I had no
idea of how it happened or where 1was,
or what the explanation was." The mental health professionals would tell us
that this kind of schizophrenic experience had a very low (0.5-1 per cent)
expectation from the American people:
D The Roper survey showed that 13
per cent of Americans have gone
through at least one lost hour with
no recollection of how or why.
D The next question asked participants whether they had ever woken
up para!ysed, with a feeling or sense
of strange figure present in the
room. Eighteen per cent of the
American people said that had happened to them.
D The experience of literally flying
through the air, without understandingwhy, and not in a dream10 per cent said this had happened
to them
D Unusual scars on the body that were
upsetting and you did not know
why you got them, or unusual lights
or balls of light in a room with you
- eight per cent of the American
people said this had happened to
them
These are extraordinarily high percentages and everyone involved in running the survey was staggered.
To be as conservative as possible,
we then said that a possible abductee,
according to our criteria, must have said
'Yes' to atleastfour outofthefivesymptoms or clues to the questions we had
asked.
We came up with only 2% of the
American people as abductees - that
works out to roughly 5 million people.
It's probably 2% in Australia as wellthere's no reason to believe that here is
radically different Of the audience here
today, at least 2% of you would have
had these experiences - probably
more, given your interests and the reason you are here.
One of the most upsetting and hard
to believe aspects of this whole abduc-

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tion phenomenon, is that it is so widespread.

Now I'll go quickly into some other
symptoms that do come up. These are a
little more ephemeral and harder to describe:

Other symptoms
An unusual and a powerful dread of
certain places. People will say they
could not go into a particular room, or
as a child they could not look out a
window because they knew there was
going to be face looking back at them
even though it was on the second floor.
Or someone cannot drive along a certain stretch of highway - they don't
know why, they just feel that something
happened to them there, and so on. A
very powerful sense of dread where
someone does not know the causes is a
very common symptom.
Now I often ask people who I'm
working with to tell me whether they
have any kind of an unusual fear or
phobia -just a general example. We all
have unusual phobias and fears somewhere, and these may have absolutely
nothing to do with UFOs. Any phobia
may have a very logical explanationits the accumulative effect of lots of
them that could indicate you have had
these experiences.
You have to ask precise questions
about a phobia, and it very often makes,
a direct line straight to what the experience might be. For example, a woman
who believed she'd had an abduction
experience told me she had a terrible
fear of rats. Now rats are certai,nly unpleasant, so I asked her how she pic-
tured her rat in her fear. Was it
skittering around down ne~r her feet, or
did it have big teeth that could bite her.
She said. "No I don't see it that way". I
asked her where was the rat she was so
afraid of? She said that it was sitting on
her shoulder. I thought that was very
unusual- I could not think of anyone
who had a rat phobia that manifested
itself that way, so I said that it must be
very bad thing to imagine. (I was trying
to lead her away from any UFO phe-

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nomenon, to see if she was leadable.) I

said that if she imagined it on her shoulder then she must look over and see
those big teeth and imagine they could
come and bite her neck (which is a
heavy lead; I was pushing her). She said
"No, I don't see that at all, it's that !look
over and see those big black eyes staring
atmerr.

At that point she suddenly realised

that in her position she was horizontal
and looking over at a small standing
figure with big eyes.
There are many of these instances.
One man told me that he had a terror of
sharks. I said that sharks are certainly
an awful danger, and so forth. "I guess
you must think that huge mouth will
bite you with all those teeth". He said he
did not think about the mouth, it was
something about the
skin and its colour
We did not mention UFO
and those eyes. He
abductions; what we did was
went on to point out
conceal questions about
that he's not been
abduction-hjpe symptoms, to
swimming in .the
see how common these
ocean since he was
phenomena really are in
five years old and
peoples' lives.
did not swim much.
He then realised that
when he was five he
had 'disappeared' at the beach, and his
parents had been looking for him.
I had another case where a woman
was terrified of elevators, and again I
tried to lead her. I knew something
about her experience. She'd gone up a
beam of blue light when she was a little
girl, so I said that she must be afraid of
being stuck in the elevator (implying a
claustrophobic reaction). "No", she said
"that's not it''. I had replied, "Well perhaps the cable will break and the elevator will fall?". She had denied this,
saying that it was just that the elevator
was going to keep going up and up, and
she would never be brought back.
When you look into these fears over
and over again, they lead directly back
to buried UFO abduction experiences.
Many other people remember pieces of
their experiences consciously, sometimes even the whole experience.

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People also have wonderful systems of denial to pretend this did not
happen. The abduction experience is extremely upsetting- it shreds the very
fabric of belief that we have lived with
all our lives. How can someone go right
through a wall? And incidentally, one
woman's phobia which occurs when
she is in the upper floor of a building, is
that she could fall right furough fue
floor.
She said she knew this phobia
started when she was a little girl- she
remembers thinking, when she was in
an upper floor, that if she could go
through a wall, then she could fall
through a floor. Now only somebody
who has literally gone through a wall
would ever have a fear like that
The systems of denial that we have
are incredible. Anofuer wonderful example came from a woman who was
telling me about her six-year old boy, an
abductee. She told me how her little boy
described people in fue room with big
black eyes, and being taken away, and
he had physical marks on him and so
forfu (all very upsetting for a parent,
and one of the most difficult fuings for
an investigator to handle).
I then asked her whefuer she had
ever had anything happen yourself. She
could not think of anyfuing, but fuere
was an odd incident a couple of summers before, which had happened in a
split second. She had gone to bed and
woke up about five feet off fue floor,
horizontal and falling. She was over in
the comer of the room and crashed
down on a chair, hurting herself.
Therewereno bones broken and she
had dragged herself back to bed. I asked
her what she had fuought happened.
She said that although she.had
never been a sleepwalker, she had decided that this is what must have happened. "I must have been walking in my
sleep. I must have gotten up on the bed
and made a tremendous jump. I must
have somehow caught my feet in the
blankets which fuen made my feet go
up. I flew across fue room and fell, 5-6
feet away from fue bed."

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I told her that this seemed rafuer

far-fetched to me and she agreed. However, this was her system of denial. .
When people talk about imagination in
UFO cases, this imagination is most visible in fue mefuods or fue imagery people develop to explain away these
experiences to make them not be true.

Medical problems
Oilier symptoms fuat occur, include a
whole range of medical problems connected with UFO abductions, particularly gynaecological and obstetrical
problems or anomalies in women (similar l<inds of problems in this area can
also occur with men).
For example, virgin pregnancies.
I'm now working wifu a woman who
had left her husband and had lived a
totally chaste and lonely existence for
six months. She found herself pregnant
and could not believe it. She went to the
doctor for a blood-urine analysis testshe was definitely two months pregnant. She arranged an appointment for
a dilation and curettage to incense an
abortion.
Two nights before the appointment
she woke up but could not move. There
were little figures standing aromd the
bed, and she said she remembered the
way fueir hands felt on her forehead
and body. Something was inserted into
her vagina, she was frightened, fuere
was pain and all the things associated
with such an experience. Then she went
to sleep, which is typical- they just put
you asleep.In the morning she woke up
wifu some cramps, and went to the doctor. There was no sign of a miscarriage
or any bleeding or anything. They performed the dilation and curettage and
found half a placenta and nofuing else.
These sorts of experience are very,
very conunon and in conjunction with
other symptoms are a very good indication someone has had an abduction.
There are some very subtle variations,
like hearing your name called. A
woman was washing the dishes at home
and somebody called her name as clear
as a bell. She turned around but there

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whose they are". So Murphy's law is in

was nobody there, and she realised it
was sort of inside her head. These occurfull sway here.
This wide range of symptoms prorences are often precursors to abduction
vide a pattern thatmightindicatesomeexperiences. (Of course if you have
one has had these sorts of experiences.
somebody consistently telling you to go
out and murder the Prime Minister,
0
0
then maybe you have another kind of
0
problem.) But this occurrence, espeBudd then shawed some slide examples.
cially just hearing the name called, can
often be a particular clue or symptom of
The first slide was a New Zealand
an abduction.
photo taken in 1976 (see "Motunau
One last comment which is both
UFO" on page 25), to start off with
amusing and a little sad, is that we think
something local. This photo had been
that Murphy's Law - "1 anything can
thoroughly analysed by the Centre for
go wrong, it will" - may be the only
UFO Studies (USA) and was an examtruly universal law. Because sometimes
ple of what abductees very often do not
even the aliens make mistakes.
see, or do not remember- they don't
Many people especially women,
remember the UFO. In the Roper survey
have described going to bed wearing
only 7% of those sampled remembered
pyjamas or a nightgown or teeshirt and
seeing a UFO, alpanties or something. When they wake
up in the morning they don't have anythough 13% (almost We think that Murphy's Law
thing on -their clothes are either over
twice as manv) re-"If anything can go wrong,
in the comer, on the floor, folded up on
ported missing time
it will"- may be the only
top of the bed neatly, or something of
experiences.
truly universal law. Because
that sort. Often this is connected with
The next series of
sometimes even the aliens
finding oneself on top of the covers, feet
slides were exammake mistakes.
on the pillow, body moved around. We
ples of'scoop marks'
have cases where the clothes absolutely
-one of the two badisappear. Many abductees report this
sic types of wound
odd thing about clothes.
linked to UFO abIn one of the more amusing cases, a
ductions: A scoop mark looks like a
woman I had been working with went
small round indentation in the skin as if
to bed wearing two-part pyjamas. She
a small tool has been used to lift a layer
woke up in the morning, sleepily got
of cells. The reason for the marks is not
out of bed, took one step and fell over.
known; they might be a kind of biopsy.
She was naked from the waist up, and
One example from the thigh of a
from the waist down she was wearing
five-year old boy was taken after it had
the top to her pyjamas.
only been there about ten days. A derSomeone had managed to get her matologist who looked at it was
rather slender legs into the armholes
astonished because he had looked at a
somehow and she took Ol)e step and
rash on the boy's leg earlier. When the
tumbled over. Probably the most biboy came back just five days later to see
zarre of these cases- and I have"two
if the medication had worked, he took
instances from two different women
one look and could not figure out how
would be as follows. In each case they
it could have healed. It then looked like
were wearing panties and a teeshirt
a cigarette bum and he had thought the
when they went to bed and when they
parents had molested the boy (the fawoke up the panties and teeshirt were
ther is also an abductee).
not on, but there was someone else's
Some scoop marks can be quite dispanties on the floor or on the table-the
figuring. Most are usually found on the
wrong clothing. One woman said,
legs, but they have been found else"They don't even fit, I don't know
where, like on the back, and Budd had

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found a couple on people's faces. Interestingly, very often there is a psychological weight connected with the scars.
A woman psychologist told Budd she'd
had a scoop mark on her leg since a little
girl. She felt so uncomfortable if anyone
looked atit, or if she even thought someone was looking at it, that she would
start to feel nauseous. She had no idea
how she got it, but it was unusual to
elicit that kind of emotion.
The other kind of very common
wound is the straight line cut. This appears like a very sharp-cut line, is
straight and often looks quite thin and
small, like a kind of surgical cut.
A bad one on a 40 year-old man's
back had appeared when he was 10. He
had gone out on his bicycle and remembered being in some kind of white
space, but was uncertain. He remembered getting back very late and his
grandmother scolded him. She then noticed a couple of drops of blood on his
teeshirt, and immediately pulled it up
to see this ghastly wound. She asked
what happened, and he said to Budd,
"As I was telling her
that I remembered
falling
off my bike, I
The other kind of very common
was
thinking'!
don't
wound is the straight line cut.
remember
falling
off
T11is appears like a very
sharp-cut line, is straight and my bike"' - as if
often looks quite thin and that was what he
small, like a kind of surgical had been told to say.
cut. The interesting
thing about the bicycle explanation is
that there was no
tear in the teeshirt,
and there was no
dirt or blood or
marks on the rest of his body. Oose up,
the scar shows much cheloid scar tissue.
Another bad one was taken a day
after the incident. The man had experienced a lot of abductions and had been
found unconscious on the floor in the
bathroom with the wound and with his
right toe almost severed by a very neat
cut.
He had conscious recollections of
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A scar from a woman with numerous abduction experiences appeared

while the woman had an overnight
house guest staying, and a guard dog
trained to come to her rescue. She went
into the kitchen in the middle of the
night to get a drink of water and had a
conscious memory of hands forcing her
down onto some surface. She woke up
on the floor near the refrigerator in
panic and started screaming for help.
The house guest sleeping 15 feet from
the kitchen never woke up. It was as if
the guest had been 'switched off' (this
happens commonly - a person is
taken, or people are taken while any
other inconvenient witnesses are rendered in a kind of zombie-like state).
The dog never carne in and was so listless for days afterwards it had to be
taken to a vet.
The woman had got back into bed
and went back to sleep, unaware of the
scar. In the morning the house guest
saw the 3.5 inch scar down the middle
of her back. There was no pain in the
large bruise surrounding it. Most importantly, there was not a drop of blood
on the skin, or on the floor, or on the bed,
the pillow, sheets or anything. Wherever she bled from the ct.:t, it was not in
her home. A doctor she went to asked
what kind of surgery she'd had. There
were little extensions at intervals along
the cut, which suggested some kind of
clamping device had been used.
Another scar example at the top of
an ear, as a little hole: This is another
kind of wound that has been found. It is
common in a number of people and
investigators believe it may be a path by
which an implant is inserted, but this is
not really known.
Typically, there are also bruises
which do not leave permanent marks of
any sort One man woke up in the morning remembering there had been figures
in his room, and that his leg had been
held by a clamp and bent to one side.
When he looked at himself more carefully there was a bruise (slide example)
which healed shortly afterwards. Temporary bruises are very common, and it

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can be very upsetting when you go to

bed and there's not a bruise on your
body and you wake up bruised.
Another example of the bruises on
the arms of a woman who had been
hypnotically regressed. These were the
hand prints of normal humans who
were working with the aliens. They had
forcibly moved her about and left
strong marks on her arms.
A woman woke up with a large oval
doughnut-shaped mark on both shoulders. It lasted for 5-6 months and then
faded quickly away. Doctors who
checked it thought it was like sunburn,
as if something had masked her skin.
She had not been outside, so there was
no way this could have happened. Some
kind of clamping device was possibly
used, and the case has yet to be fully
explored.
One of the things people can remember is a kind of flashback. The reaction that people had to Streiber's book
Communion was much more based on
the cover of the book, than on the contents. People lool<ed at the book in book
stores and recognised the face or knew
the eyes. The sense of familiarity with
this kind of image may also be a possible
indication of an abduction (this is perhaps less likely now than a while ago,
before The Intruders mini-series and
other programs).
Also people remember the sense of
small figures walking about their house
(slide of a drawing by Kathy Davis from
Budd's book Intruders). Kathy saw the
figure walk right by her doorway with.
this enormous head and tiny thin body.
Budd then read from a letter by the
mother of a little girl who had all the
indicators and clues of having been abducted. One evening the little. girl had
been scared to go to bed because the
'little people' would get her. They
would take her up in the sky 'to see the
doctor'. The next day the little girl had
been watching television, when she saw
the cover of a book (probably Communion). She had jumped to her feet, pointed
at the TV shouting, "That's them
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week of her own accord she had drawn

many faces with only very large dark
eyes, and had some pin-like marks, and
a bad nose bleed. Sometimes, the little
girl does sign language with her hands.
When asked where she saw this used,
she says "up in the sky".
Budd began to show examples of
some of the children's drawings.
(Drawing from a little boy.) He remembered drawing what was the most
vivid thing to himthe big eyes and the
One of the things people can
mouth, leaving out
remember is a kind oj
the nose.
flashback. The reaction that
Another
boy
people had to Streiber's book
drew what he reCommunion was much more
membered when he
based on the cover of the book,
was on a table. The
than on the contents.
man had great big
eyes and had put a
needle into the boy's
eye socket -the boy had problems with
the eye for the next week, according to
his mother.
A drawing from a little boy who
told his mother he had been lifted up by
a beam of light into a craft, and into a
'thing'. There were green and yellow
lights shining down from it and he was
terrified. He asked his mother in the
morning in the middle of his tears, "
"why don't you love me any more?".
His mother had said, "I do love you,
how can you say that?". The boy replied, " No you don't, because when
they were holding me I was crying for
you and you weren't even moving, and
you weren't even looking at me". Presumably she had been switched off.
lncidentally, this is one of the areas
where abduction experiences can get
into the very texture of family relationships and do a tremendous amount of
damage -no-one knows why the damage is happening, or why they react that
way. Another drawing of the same incident by the same boy showing himself
inside. He said there was one man sitting at a table who never looked around
at him, but just sat at some kind of console- very, typical kind of description
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in a wonderful child-like way, they try

to be clear and specific. Two figures had
little dots to suggest their skin was grey,
and huge black eyes with no whites the boy's own eyes are terrified. There
are little curving lines around the boy's
face- when his mother asked why the
lines were there he said, "That's me
shivering and shaking because I'm so
scared".

The boy gave himself hair, but the

aliens don't have hair. He gave himself
a little nose; the aliens
don't have
The bay was ven1 clear that the
noses.
He gave himaliens had different hands.
self
a
mouth and
The!J had only four fingers
teeth
he said his
whichwere long and thin.
teeth were chattering- the aliens had
just a slit.
One of the most
interesting details was that he drew
hands on the figures. Those of you who
have children will probably have seen
that at a certain stage of their development, a child draws a hand like a little
flower. The fingers are little curving
lines as in this example of his own
hands.
However, the boy was very clear
that the alienshaddifferenthands. They
had only four fingers which were long
and thin. The boy had drawn the alien
hands very carefully, with long sharp,
thin fingers. His representation of the
figure seated the consul shows that he
first drew anormalhumanhand underneath, and then went back over it to
make the hand right, as the absolute
alien hand.
In anofl:ter drawing by this boy's
older brother, made when the younger
brother was just back from hospital after being born. The older brother had
walked. into his mother's room and said,
"Mummy, there are three little doctors
staring at Johnny in his crib and they're
shining a light on". The descriptive
drawing showed the little doctors shining lights down on the new brother he's been visited many times.
Another drawing had a wonderful
story to do with it. The boy, aged eight

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was going to a Catholic Parochial

school. One day, he came home from
school looking very sheepish and ran
into his room. His mother sensed something was odd and then the phone rang.
It was Sister Theresa, one of the teachers, who told her that Johnny had been
very bad that day. He had misbehaved,
called her a liar and a jackass, and
should be punished. The mother called
the little boy into the room to ask why
-it takes considerable strength of character to be that rebellious.
He told her that he and the older
children had been asked to make drawings forSt Patrick's Day. These included
little people with a pot of gold in the
middle and a rainbow, and so on. But
Johnny's drawing showed a series of
lines going up to a triangular object.
When Sister Theresa asked what it was,
he told her that it was the spaceship the
little people live in. She had said that
there was no such thing as little people
and spaceships. He had disagreed with
the nun, and when she said she did not
want him to say such things, they were
only a story, he had called her a liar and
a jackass, "because she had been there
with him".
He told his mother that he had gone
out at recess to play with the other children and his shoelace was untied. Sister
Theresa had bent down to tie his shoes.
All of a sudden it got very bright around
them and he 'started going up'. Sister
Theresa went up too -she was stuck to
his shoe.
The mother asked if this really had
happened, and he said, "Yes, it really
happened" - that had been why he
called her a liar. When they 'went inside', there were the little people. Sister
Theresa had started yelling and they
had taken him into another room. When
they were separated, the nun had been
yelling and they were taking her clothes
off. When he came back they had
dressed her, but she was not movingshe was juststandingthere looking very
strange. One of the little men picked up
her rosary beads, which were used as a
belt. He handed them to the boy and

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told him to give them back to her, before

they stepped out into a beam of light
and went down to the school again. Recess was over and the children were
back in class. When his mother asked if
he was making this up, he said it had
really happened -he still had her rosary beads. He went away and brought
them out for his mother.
There was a little boy's drawing of
the alien that comes at night. When he
was finishing it, the very last thing he
put on was the hair - as if it was
streaming out into the space - a very
scary figure. He also put teeth, but he
started with the head and the eyes.
Budd had then asked this boy to
draw his little sister, because he was
curious to see what his regular drawing
style was like. Together, the two drawings show very different drawing
styles. The alien is violent, scary,
reaches out into space and is aggressive.
The drawing of his sister is small and
sweet and has a little smile and a little
nose.
Budd has an image recognition kit
he uses with children, if he suspects a
child from two-and-a-half up has had
these experiences. He plays with the
child to relax them, and then asks the
child to tell him if they know what the
images are. He shows a series of 10
drawings, some from the real world (the
set includes Batman, Father Christmas,
a 'ninja turtle', satan/ devil, a little girl,
a skull, a policeman, an alien)
He checks the child's body language
and reactions to each. Many times the
children will say for the alien picture
that it is the man that comes into their
room. The results can be very dramatic,
very confronting. Budd will often ask a
child to make up a little story about one
or more of the characters.
People often fixate on the oddest
things, and you realise when you ask
them about it why they are reacting. An
abductee was visiting Budd and saw a
little sketch of an opossum that a friend
of his had drawn. He had put up a book
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notwantto look at it. When you look at

the possum up close you particularly
notice the big eyes.
Similarly, Budd showed a picture of
a wig stand that a little 5-7 year-old girl
had retrieved from the garbage and
drawn big black eyes on. She sits it on
her table and stares at it. Her little sister,
only about a year old, screams and cries
when she sees the wig stand, and the
family have to hide it.
Budd has two adults with terrible
fears of mannequins in department
stores which have no wig or clothes on.
One man told Budd he was terrified
of the lamps in his mother's house, he
did not know why. Whenever he
walked into the living room and looked
at the lamp he was absolutely terrified.
The picture he took of the lamp shows
a triangular patch of light from the lamp
which is in the shape of fhe alien head.
The final slide showed a columnar
support in an airport. The woman who
picked Budd up at the airport was an
abductee and could not look at the columns when walking through the airport.
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Questions
Question: Why do children mnember ex-

periences consdously when adults often do

not?
"We don't really know why, except
that there is a suggestion that the abduction process is an on-going conditioning
process. Part of the conditioning is that
abductees are told 'we are your friends,
we love you, we are here to help you,
we are your parents- do what we say
and everything will be fine', and so on.
It's possible that this conditioning includes a brainwashing process, so that
people systematically forget. We don't
really know the mechanisms. I think
there are many children who don't remember what happens. But little children very frequently show distinct
responses. In one touching case, one
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ences had a tiny child about a year old.
Every time she put on her big dark
glasses the child would scream and cry.
If the mother justheld the glasses for the
child to see first, then nothing happened, but as soon as she put them on
her face, absolute terror. Children have
these powerful reactions and these are
not kids who have read some books
somewhere or saw something on TV,
these are kids who have had these experiences.''
Question: Does sleepwalking come up

often?
"Interestingly, parents will often
say that a child was just sleepwalking
and there are real sleepwalking cases
that have nothing to do with UFOs.
However, there are many cases where
sleepwalking is impossible, because the
doors and locks are too high, the child
is too small, and the child is found outside. I have one case where a woman
(part of this was used in the film Intruders) went to sleep and then found herself
about a mile away in the woods in her
nightgown in 8 Celsius weather. She
had bare feet, was absolutely terrified
and did not know where she was for a
while. When she got back to the house
she could not get in -all the doors were
locked from the inside. Finally she had
to find a key, because her sleeping son
inside the house was 'switched off'.
Someone would say she had walked in
her sleep, but there was no way she
could have gone outside, and walked a
mile in very cold weather in bare feet
without waking up."
Question: Do you think there is any

relationship between abduction reports involving virgin births and the Virgin Mary?
"A lot of people want to connect the
abduction phenomenon with other
kinds of religious phenomena, paranoid fears, and so on. I leave that alone
myself. I have no idea- right now I'm
dealing with so many on-going cases I
don't have time to deal with possible
religious interpretations. Many people
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birth to begin with, so we have a whole

mix of feelings. Anything is possible_
and I think that if this issue interests
you, you can pursue it through speculation, reading and so on. I don't think
anythingverysolidcan be said with any
kind of authority about it at all."
Question: Have the scoop marks and
straight-line scars you find been compared
with hysterical phenomena?
"Are there hysterical symptoms involved? This is why we deal with mental health professionals as much as
possible to help with just these issues.
There is the stigmata phenomenon of
course - one of the interesting things
here is that stigmata never seem to appear on the body of a non-believer.
Someone has to be very involved with
the theology of Roman Catholicism to
have stigmata occur. They often occur
on the palm of the hand even though we
know that in fact when people were
crucified in Roman times the nails went
through the wrists. This would suggest
that in some cases stigmata are self-inflicted because the fingernails could
reach down there subconsciously.
However, we don'thave the same kinds
of physical marks with abduction scars
and wounds. If we look at the possibility of these wounds being self-inflicted,
then when they turn up on a child
there's no connection with any kind of
hysterical situation. However, each case
has to be examined on its own merits
before we can find out the truth."
Question: Drawings of the alien )ace'
are now widely displayed on teeshirts and
magazine covers. Given that this image is so
disturbing to many abductees, should it be
used so freely?
"This is a very good question, and
there are plenty of examples here today
at this Expo. Some abductees still do
find the image extremely offensive, although it is very much in the public
domain and hard to deal with. Perhaps
we should seriously look at the way in
which the image is being exploited, in
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Motunau UFO
(This material is taken from an article in Xenolog
No.122, March 1980, by F & P Dickeson.)
An unusual 'brilliant sparkling diamond
UFO' was photographed out to sea from the
mouth of the Motunau River by chance, on 27
October 1979.
This event occurred only ten and a half
months after television news footage of UFOs
around the Kaikoura peninsula was broadcast
world-wide. The area of eastern coastline
.around Motunau is some 85 km south-west of
Kaikoura, exactly where David Crockett's film
crew first saw unusual lights from their Argosy
aircraft around new year 1978-79.
The Motunau UFO picture only came to
light in late January 1980, when the amateur
photographers finally got around to checking
tl1eir slides.
Mr and Mrs N of Motunau had recently
purchased a crayfishing boat for their business
and were anxious to get a good photograph of
their new acquisition. Two poor colour films
had already been taken (one underexposed, the
other badly torn in the camera). They had
bought more colour slide film, and borrowed a
35rnrn Olympus f40rnrn camera from a friend.
Another friend had agreed to take photos of the
boat traversing the river mouth at sunrise.
(Fishing boats can navigate the r!ver entrance
three hours either side of full tide.)
Unfortunately, the 'photographer' could
only use the camera as it had been set up- to
aim and fire in full sunlight.
At 6.15 am, the Sun had just risen above the
eastern sea, but the river mouth was still in
deep shadow from nearby hills to the north and
east.
When the new boat carne past the jetty on
its way downstream on the incoming"tide, three
photographs were taken in quick succession.
Later fuat day the photographer took more pictures in full sunlight as the boat returned from
the open sea.
All of the slides were processed in December 1979 and only checked briefly at that time.
Holding each up to the light, the first shot had
not come out, the second was too dark and the
boat could not be seen, the third was taken
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that day in full daylight were much better. All

the slides were then put away.
In January 1980, a friend brought over a
hand-held slide viewer and another look was
taken at the pictures. The friend noticed a cluster of lights in the sky on the second slide which
no one had noticed before (everyone had been
looking for the boat). They quickly borrowed a
slide projector and were amazed to see an unusual formation of dazzling blue-white lights
(see picture this page).
On 15 January 1980, Mr and Mrs N took
their slide to The Press newspaper in Christchurch and a black and white slide copy was
made. While in Christchurch, they also tried to
interest Television New Zealand in the slideTV personnel were fuen too busy with an organisational restructure, and had no slideviewing equipment handy, so passed it off as a
flaw in the slide.
A poor-quality enlarged reproduction of
the lights was printed in The Press on 16 January
1980. This showed an indistinct white blur on a
grey sky background (it was also printed back
to front).
After Xenolog received clippings from
Christchurch readers, the newspaper was contacted for further details and a negative of the
photograph.
The actual size of the lights on the copied
slide was about 1-1.5 nun. By ehrarging it, and
printing the sky and clouds out darker, exciting
possibilities were revealed. The editors of
Xenolog contacted the slide owners and made
several trips 260 km riorth from Tirnaru to Motunau (Motunau is 98 km north of Christchurch).
Oose scrutiny of the slide and photographs
revealed what seemed to be eight lights on top
and six underneath, with perhaps five more in
between. All the lights, except for two in the
lower left, were blue-white in colour. The two
lower left lights appeared to have a cream tinge
about them. Between the two rows of lights on
the extreme right there appeared to be a large
purplish hazy spot. Interestingly, the darker
the Dickesons printed their black and white
enlargements, the more each light seemed to
split into two sources of light, not just one as
was first thought.
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At the time it was taken, the rising sun

would have been lighting up the extreme right
hand side of the' object'. The extreme left would
have been in shadow, but the lights in this area
appeared brighter and more intense - this
suggested an overall cylindrical shape for the
object.
The UFO image appears only on the second
slide It was probably not noticed because the
photographer was focussing on the fishing
boat through the view-finder, and because of
the bright dawn sun. The estimated time between taking the second and third photos was
510 seconds. The third slide clearly showed
vegetation on the hill, but no sign of a UFO.
From on-site checks of sky-line vegetation, the
apparent size of the object in the slide would
have been about 1 degree across (twice the
diameter of a full moon), and about 70 degrees
east of north from the photographer.
The investigators had been members of the
RNZAF Photographic Section, and then professional photographers for many years. After
careful scrutiny, they found the slide's authenticity to be unquestionable, showing a UFO

underneath existing clouds when the Sun had

risen a few degrees above the horizon.
The object was probably within a few kilometres of the photographer, around south 43
03' 45 (30)" and east 173 06' 45(5)". A good
copy of the original slide and appropriate technical and site details were sent to the US Centre
for UFO Studies for further research. 0

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How ETs seem to think

The second talk was provided by Palden Jenkins, an author from Glastonbunj, England, who has been involved
in a number of UFO research projects. He takes a different point of view to that of by Budd Hopkins, saying that a
lot is known about the aliens.

palden has accumulated much information on extraterrestrials (ETs) and terrestrials (Ts) each has own
characteristics. There are at least as
many different kinds of ETs as there are
species in our own terrestrial ecosystem. And while it is difficult to generalise, different ET groupings appear to
have arisen in the universe.
Palden has been collecting information over a twenty-year period from the
'Council of Nine' -an alien organisation which first announced its existence
during the 1950s, and which is mentioned in Shuttlewood's book, The
Warminster Mystery. For these aliens,
Earth is 'the only planet of Choice' in
this vicinity in space - it is also the
densest part of the universe.
UFO investigators are aware of
those ETs who make themselves most
visible, but these are not the only aliens
around. Most of the visible aliens such
as the 'greys' (or 'Reticulans'), are local
to the Galaxy - their interests may be
dubious or harmful to terrestrials and they are here for different reasons
to the non-visible Council of Nine.
The Council of Nine is interested in
topics like nuclear radiation, radio radiation and human thinking patterns - .
they find planet Earth 'interesting', and
are more cosmic in nature.
Twenty-four ET planets and civilisations who have no wish to harm Humankind, are now involved in a
dialogue with terrestrials. Sessions with
the Council of Nine are provided
through a human spokesperson, 'Tom',
and the Warminster group is part of a
collective consciousness, a world telepathic link The central channel is used
to provide information about philosophical, cosmological and scientific

topics, such as the Big Bang, superconductivity, and metaphysics. The Council of Nine spans several dimensions
(where each dimension is an envelope
of space travelling at the speed of light).
For example, the planets Hoover and
Altair are both physical civilisations.
Altair is travelling at 56 times the speed
of light relative to the Earth, and is 50
million lightyears distant, but invisible.
Many of the more metaphysical civilisations have 'worker' civilisations as
intermediaries, and do not interfere
with Earth directly. Others produce
physical vehicles in a wide range of
sizes and shapes, which can pass
through the various dimensions.
Their concern for terrestrials is
linked to the fact that the Earth's destruction (for example, by nuclear war)
would affect the rest of the Universe.
However, humankind is ultimately responsible for fixing its own patch of the
cosmos. D

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The Zeonlons came with the answers to many secrets

ofthe universe. Vem, regrettably,_ came with
thick g!asoos aild h!s deer rlffe.

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A history of the abduction phenomenon

The third talk described how Budd Hopkins began investigating UFO abductions, and how the abduction

phenomenon unfolded.

Before talking about the UFO abduction

phenomena, especially in the light of the
previous speaker and other speakers, I
should probably give you a little bit of
my basic philosophy about the whole
area of UFO studies.
First of all, I am very dubious or
suspicious about two major sources of
information for the UFO phenomenon.
And I tell everybody this is my warning;
Don't believe a thing you hear from the
aliens, and don't believe a thing you
hear from any Federal Government.
Each one has a record of deception,
each one has an agenda, each one has a
purpose. The government wants to
keep this as secret as possible and to
cover it up. I believe the aliens want to
manipulate and control us, and do what
they have to do, with a minimum of
opposition.
I could cite all kinds of cases of deception on the alien part, and of course
we don't even have to begin to talk
about deception on the Government's
part.
Now I want to tell yourightnow my
opposition to the US Government's intense coverup.
There are perhaps millions of people who have had abduction experiences which have left many severely
frightened, traumatised, certainly confused. In some cases people have been
physically injured in one way or another. The Government is standing back
there in the United States (and I'm sure
your Government and others too) and
saying that none of this is real, it's not
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The amount of psychological damage this does to people who have had
these experiences can be easily demonstrated by an analogy. Because the government says it is not real, the mental
health community can go right along
with it and say, "See the Government
has looked into it they say its not real, so
it isn't. So these people must be crazy, or
deluded, or whatever". People have undoubtedly ended up in mental hospitals
as a result of honestly and truthfully
telling the stories of what happened to
them. Certainly there have been suicides, lets put it that way.

Government policies harmful

There is no sense that the Government
has been able to help anybody and there
is a great deal of evidence that they have
done enormous harm simply by pretending abductions do not exist. Imagine what would happen if the
Government of Australia or the United
States made an official announcement
and said, "for 20 years we have looked
into every single rape case and we now
know there has never been a rape case
- it is all fantasy or lying". Imagine
what that would do to women and some
men in this country and others. But that
is the effect of a government policy
which leads to ridicule and attacks on
the victims themselves- to 'shoot the
victim' (an extremely dangerous position). Unfortunately this is what is happening now.
One of the reasons I lecture, is that I
hope that somehow we can force a
change from the ground up. All the

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Government would have to do would

be to say there is evidence that this is
going on; we want to look at it seriously;
we want to take reports; we don't want
ridicule; we want to examine this honestly and truthfully.
The reduction in the pressure that
has been put on people, on victims,
would be enormous. So that is one of the
reasons I come to places like this and
give this kind of a talk. The mental
health community is changing in its attitude, there is absolutely no doubt
about that.
All of the evidence here constitutes
an extraordinary phenomenon. All of
the photographs, the accounts, the videotapes, the physical marks, the ground
traces, everything together constitutes
an extraordinary phenomenon. And
what any open-minded person should
say is that an extraordinary phenomenon demands an extraordinary investigation. It is intellectually irresponsible
to sit on the sidelines and pretend this is
not going on. Whatever position anybody has, it still allows them to look into
the material.
Now philosophically, I should talk
a little bit about my position here. There
are many people who feel that they have
received 'information' from alien
sources and maybe they have. As I say,
I don't trust any of that, just as I don't
trust anything that comes from the Government. Even though the Government
may occasionally tell the truth and the
aliens may occasionally tell the truth,
we don't really know.
What I want people to do is to start .
with their own experience -what happened to you. Examine it ~s closely as
you can - were you hurt, were you
scared, did this happen, did that happen? Start this way and try to stay away
from putting it into some kind of framework
Over the years two basic attitudes or
myths have developed - one that aliens are going to come as saviours and
cure cancer, and tell us where to put the
garbage and everything else. There's
not a stack of evidence for that The

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other myth is the opposite; that they're

here as body snatchers and killers and
they're secretly about to take over the
planet. W e~re filled with all kinds of
paranoid fears and paranoid theories,
and conspiracy theories which support
that. I don't see a shred of evidence for
that either. It's as if the aliens are here
for their own reasons and their It's as if the aliens are here for
own purposes,
their own reasons and their own
and it is very hard
purposes, and it is very hard for
for us to handle
us to handle that. We want to put
that.
it into one of the religious bags
We want to
that we have
put-it into one of
the religious bags
that we have.
They're latterday saviours, or they're latter-day devils, or something. I don't know how this
interacts with religion, or with other
spirit manifestations. I don't know
whether everyone here has a particular
spiritual or religious outlook, and how
that intersects with this view. But I think
its important to avoid trying to decide
first of all whether this is good, whether
its bad, whether they are going to conquer us or save us, or whatever. Start
with what happened to you, and move
slowlyoutfromthat- I think that's the "'
safest and healthiest way to go. But to
get back to how I got involved in investigating UFO abductions:

Budd's background
I am a painter and a sculptor, and initially I had no interest in the subject of
UFOs and no involvement in it in any
way.
In 1964, I and two other people were
driving in a car in the daytime to a party
in Provincetown, Cape Cod. We were
on high ground and ahead of us in the
sky we saw an object that was lensshaped at a shallow angle. It looked
dark, made of a non-reflective metal
and a pewter colour. We started speculating as to whether it was a baJloon, but
it did not seem to be moving. Nearby
clouds were moving very quickly, and
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ures had got out, who looked like 'kids

and hid it from us. At another point,
in snow suits'. This was an interesting
there were clouds passing behind it and
silhouetting it, so you could see it was
comment to me, because when people
clearly a three-dimensional object. At
make things up they tend to say things
like they saw 'this alien and he gave me
one point a cloud swallowed it up and
this wisdom and so on' -it all sounds
you could see the object inside the cloud
very pretentious. A man who says they
as a dark shadow -like the silhouette
'looked like kids in snow suits' is trying
of a ship in a fog. As we approached it,
to get you to see exactly what he saw.
we got on lower ground and were lookThis kind of report is wonderful
ing up more and
when
people use those little colloquial
more
steeply.
George saw the little men
From
underneath
ways
of
describing things. A woman I
digging in the ground and went
back the next morning to see if it was circular. was interviewing once in her living
there were holes in the ground. We were going room, had been describing waking up
He said he got e:oen more upset through every paralysed in the bedroom. In the doorwhen he found there were holes in possible explana- way of her bedroom which led into the
she saw this small figure with a
the ground -he thought, 'my tion we could kitchen
big head, and so on. When I asked how
come up with.
God I'm not crazy, this is real' We passed by tall the figure was she said, "Mr Hopkins, he came right up to the microand looked back
wave" - I had to go out to the kitchen
the whole
sighting took per- to find out where the microwave was.
This kind of description means you had
haps 2.5-3 minutes.
Then suddenly it shot off; I hit the
to have been there, it is not somebody
brakes and we all jumped out of the car
making something up.
In the New Jersey case mentioned
and watched this thing fly straight into
the descriptions were just like
before,
the wind- which killed all the balloon
theories we were trying to come up
that George saw the little men digging
with. We knew atthatpointthatwehad
in the ground and went back the next
rooming to see if there were holes in the
seen something really unusual, and
from then on I began informally asking
ground. He said he got even more upset
when he found there were holes in the
people about any sightings, anything
they had seen.
ground- he thought, 'my God fm not
I found there was an enormous
crazy, this is real'.
number of people who told me they had
seen things, and I started thinking, 'how
First investigation
can people see things like this and not
I looked into his case. We went back to
get curious, not get motivated to look
the site and found traces of the holes,
into it?'
and so on. Then I found a second witness who had seen thewholethingfrom
Ultimately after doing nothing from
1964-1975 b.ut reading about it and beanother viewpoint - this man had actually called the police. He told a police
ing curious, and continuing to do my
painting and sculpture, getting marlieutenant who lived in the building
ried, having a family and so on, a man 1 where he was the doorman. The police
lieutenant confirmed that the doorman
had known for years told me about his
sighting late one night in New Jersey.
had toldhimhehadseenafiyingsaucer
George said that he did not know what
Iandin the park Therewasalotofother
the world was coming to, "You can be
physical evidence with the case, and I
dr{ving home and something can come
wrote an article about it. This was the
and land near your car and these little first case I'd ever looked into in 1975.
people can get out". It tumed out that
The article elicited a lot of reports
he had been 60 feet from a landed UFO
from other people who said they had
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ago, and so on. I began to think that the

whole thing was a lot more widespread
than anybody thought There was some
television coverage and I began getting
more and more cases of people calling
me up. I had absolutely no reason to
doubt these people.
Very early on, a 1976 case described
how a group of people parked in their
cars had seen a group of perhaps 20-30
very small figures marching towards
them. This occurred after people in
three cars had been chasing a UFO in the
middle of the night and had seen these
strange lights coming down onto a
mountainside. I interviewed perhaps
six people who were involved in this
incident. They all described the figures
approaching them, but no one remembered the figures passing on, going by,
continuing. They never saw them moving away from them, at a distance. Once
the witnesses decided the figures had
just sort of vanished, they got in their
cars and drove off and found it was two
hours and a half later than what they
had once remembered. So here we had
a missing time case- the first one I had
looked into.

Betty and Barney Hill case

Now I'm going to backtrack a little bit to
tell you about how the abduction phenomenon was really uncovered.
Most of you know the Betty and
Barney Hill Case which occurred in
1961 and was made public in 1966. The
Hills were an interracial couple who
were abducted while driving through
the White Mountains in New Hampshire. Theirs was the first case where
hypnotic regression was vsed and its
very interesting. The man who did the
hypnosis was a total sceptic, but he was
completely befuddled by the fact that
their two accounts, separately recalled,
were virtually identical. There was all
kind of physical evidence, and so on.
Now that case put the subject on the
map.
After my 1964 sighting, and when
the Hill case came out in 1966, I could
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case. I thought that UFOs could fly

around maybe, but they were not picking people up. I just could not believe
that such a thing could go on.

Pascagoula
There was a seven year period before
the second abduction case came to light.
In 1973, two fishermen at Pascagoula
were abducted - Hickson and Parker.
Parker was so terrified by the encounter
he remembered it consciously, went
into town and called the police. One of
the most interesting things about the
incident is that Parker has never been
mentally right since. He has had a succession of nervous breakdowns. There
have been all kinds of problems; his life
has really been wrecked. Hickson's life
has been altered and changed in some
ways for the better, in some ways
Theirs was the first case where
not- its a mixed hypnotic regression was used and
bag. The Pas- its venJ interesting. The man who
cagoula case was
did the hypnosis was a total
the second case.
sceptic, but he was completely
US investigabefUddled blj the fact that their
tors then thought two accounts, separately recalled,
that they now
were virtually identicaf.
had two cases in
seven years, and
still did not really
believe it was very common.
Travis Walton case
In 1975 there was the Travis Walton
case, and a couple of other cases; the
Moody case and so on, which got public
attention. Investigators became aware
that there were a few more of these
cases. That is when I came into the picture, assuming there were only a few of
these.
Its very interesting the way our
minds work. We saw the UFOs flying
around originally, and agreed there was
some kind of alien craft, but we could
not accept the idea that there were occupants. David Jacobs said it very wittily:
"it took us 20 years before we accepted
the idea that the UFO had an inside".
We did not like to accept the idea of
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alien spacecraft flying around is not

weird enough. So we allowed ourself
finally to accept the idea of occupants
because we began hearing about it.
Then we thought at least those occupants were leaving us alone, maybe
they were taking samples of plant life
and soon.
Until the Betty and Barney Hill case.
Then we began to accept the idea that
aliens may be picking up a few people
just to look them over - it had only
happened once. After Hickson and
Parker seven years later -well it happened twice.

Vilas Boas case

Along the way there was the Vilas Boas
case from South America - in the
United States there's a terrible bias
against South America; we tend to think
all South Americans have very strange,
exotic beliefs.
One thing that was common to the
Betty and Barney Hill case and the Vilas
Boas case, was the idea that sperm samples were taken - a little more dramatically in the case of Vilas Boas. And what
seemed to be an ovum sample was
taken from Betty Hill. So from the very
beginning there was a reproductive
edge to this occurrence.
Time went on, and in 1975 when I
started looking
into UFO inciPreviously, we would dents, we began
automatically scrap any UFO to find case after
report from a person who had case. I became
reported one at another time. We aware of a new,
believed they were so rare that if more frightening
anybody said they had two idea that this may
experiences, they were making it be very common.
Around that
up.
time, I worked
with the conscious memories of one man who had
no missing time that he could remember, and none of these other abduction
symptoms we talked about before.
However, the man had a dread of a
certain stretch of highway. Whenever
he came home from his girlfriend's
house he would hit that stretch of high-

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way as fast as he could to get through it,

and he didn't know why. He knew
something happened and he thought it
may have to do with UFOs. When we
looked into it under hypnotic regression, out came a classic UFO abduction.
The immediate question we asked was
how many others could have been abducted with very little conscious clear
memory.

Scars and screen memories

The next thing I discovered was that
scars often turned up after abductions.
This was something that we were not
aware of - that aliens actually left
marks onus.
In one of my cases I discovered a
woman who remembered talking to this
beautiful deer in the woods. The deer
had big black eyes and it was grey. Now
the deer I know in the United States are
a wonderful rich brown colour -a grey
deer was a little odd. As we looked into
this case under hypnosis it dicln' t tum
out to be a deer, but an alien. So the idea
of screen memories now came about.
When we discovered this we began to
ask how many other things could peopl<i remember that were masked by
these odd surface memories.

Multiple adbductions
Then I discovered that people could be
abducted more than once. Previously,
we would automatically scrap any UFO
report from a person who had reported
one at another time. We believed they
were so rare that if anybody said they
had two experiences, they were making
it up.
Now we know that if anyone has
had only one experience, that's probably not true. If a person has had one
experience they've had more than one.
I put all that material together in my
book Missing Time and began getting all
kinds of letters. We became aware,
through duplicated incidents from
other investigators, that there were all
kinds of hidden abductions. However,
it was not until I got into my situation
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ductive focus of the phenomenon became obvious.

Now I had been dealing with cases
where people had described things being done to their genitals, and that sort
of thing made me uncomfortable. I was
working with various psychologists
and psychiatrists doing hypnosis they were also a little uncomfortable.
The abductees were uncomfortable
talking about it, and I tended to look the
other way - denial applies to me and
other investigators just as much as it
applies to the abductees themselves.
This is not something we wanted to confront; this is very unsettling material.
We were finally forced to confront
these issues by the material we had acquired from hypnotic regressions and
accounts about reproductive matters.
That then became something !focussed
on in my questioning.

Disappearing pregnancies
Suddenly I found over and over again
disappearing pregnancies, pregnancies
that should not have occurred and all
kind of anomalies. It seemed that the
aliens were basically involved in thereproductive process, attempting to create what seems to be "-hybrid mix of us
and them.
They seem to be magically interested in the way we treat children and
the simple instinctive things for humans, that seem to be absent from their
psychological makeup. Things such as
Jove of one's children. They seem to be
fascinatedaboutthewaywecareforour
children. When women have been artificially inseminated, they are re-abducted and the developing foetus
removed. Later, they are abducted
again -we have case after case of this
- and they are handed a small oddlooking baby, a small child, and asked
to hold that child, to hug it. The aliens
avidly watch this -asiftheybelievewe
have magic properties in our very
hands- maybe we do.
If you imagine an alien culture, and
1 am using alien in the non-pejorative
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their nature. There have been many arguments on this point. People will stand
here and say they're interdimensionals;
some will say they're meta-terrestrials,
others will say they're time travellers,
and so on. I stay away from that. I think
this is a futile exercise which can be
pointed out by a comment I read in an
article:
"I do not believe that UFO occupants are extraterrestrials. They're not
extraterrestrials because they're not doing what extraterrestrials would do".
I think that shows something of the
difficulty of trying to be clear about this.
Whatever they are, they're not from
Sydney or whatever, so its an alien
thing.
Let's speculate and assume that
their evolution has taken them to a point
where reproduction is accomplished by
in-vitro fertilisation. Let's say an ovum
and a sperm cell are united in controlled
circumstances, and foetuses are developed in tanks or
something of
some sort, and
They seem to be magically
they've lost any interested in the way we treat
kind of maternal children and the simple
connection. The instinctive things for humans,
mother is not carthat seem to be absen,t from their
rying the infant psychological makeup. Things
within her own such as love of one's children.
body and there's
no father present
- this is a mechanical procedure.
I suppose that there might be some
point they reach where there's a law of
diminishing returns, or some kind of
weakness sets in. Its almost as if (and
this is speculation) they're here largely
because they need some kind of more
primitive form of life or energy, or
something they've evolved past, but
wh_ich they need desperately from us.
We have cases now where the evidence
would suggest an attempt even to live
in our environment.

Alien uniformity
I think we always have to remember
they've come here. I think they are daz-

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zled by the richness of our environment

Everybody talks about fue UFO occupants as seeming so similar, as if fhey
had come from fhe same cookie mould
or something. We never have fhe sense
that one alien
I think they are dazzled by the over there is fhe
richness of our environment. funny one with
Evenjbody talks about the UFO fhe sense of huoccupants as seeming so similar, mour, and fhis is
as if they had come from the same the one who is
cookie mould or something. kind of homesick... we never
read any kind of
emotions like
I think they envy the beauty of that. They just
our planet seem to be efficient, they do
fheir thing.
Conversely,
look at the range
of faces and personalities and
spiritual richness in fuis audience. Each
one of you is different from every ofher
one of you. Each one of us here lives a
very intense internal life, wifh a certain
particular spirituality. I fhink fhey envy
fhat. I fhink fuey envy the beauty of our
planet I fhink in a strange way we are
fueir space brofhers, and I fhink fhey are
here to take from us and to learn from
us.
And I have ofher cases. For example, when one woman was abducted
there was an odd-looking, more or less
human person standing in fhe craft and
some little grey figures. The little grey
figures telepathically asked fhe woman
abductee (a secretary), and she delivered her answers to fue odd-looking
semi-human. The questions were like:
"When you go to work in fhe morning,
what do you say to your fellow employees? How do you punctuate sentences?
How do you use a computer? When you
leave at fhe end of fhe day what do you
say to people? And so on.
I have a case of a little girl five years
old who's been abducted, and so hasher
mofher and other members of fue family - one little girl in fhe family looks
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she has fun with them; thinks fuat

fhey're alotoffun toplaywifh. Anofher
one, the older girl, is very frightened
and keeps all fhe windows locked, and
covered wifh curtains and drapes and
so forfh. A whole range of attitudes
about the same experiences. This may
be a function of age too. Some of fue
littler people might feel better about it if
its fun. But at any rate, fuis one little girl
said the little alien that she sees, came
into her room and he had a little girl
with him.
She said to her mofher fhat fuis little
girl was funny looking and did not look
like us, and did not look like them. She
had very white hair; it was very thin and
she had a kind of big head. She was
wearing a white one-piece outfit. This is
fhe kind of description of the hybrid
child fuat we often get.
The alien said to fhe little human
girl, "We have to go now. We have to
meet some friends". And she said
"Mummy we went right through fue
wall, and you know you don't even get
splinters - you just go right through
the wall."
She went into fhe woods with her
little accompanying friends here, fhe
alien and the little girl. They found
fhemselves at a playground in fue park
(this is a real playground she knew
about in Cape Cod).
She said fhere were nine ofuer little
children waiting for fhem, each looking
like fhe one fuat had come into her
room. She said they were 'all twins',
meaning all virtually identical, but she
did not like fhem because she said they
did not smile at her. They just looked at
her, and did not talk.
The 'little man' told the human girl
fuathe wanted her to play on fhe swings
and slides and show fhe children what
it was like to play. Over and over again
she went down fue slides, she went on
fue swings, she was very upset because
she wanted fhechildren toplaywifhher
- fhis was no fun, why didn't fhey
play? He said, "No, fhey have to watch
you to learn what you do when you
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We can draw whatever deductions

we want to from that, but I think that
this is what things might be tending
towards. Some kind of gradual, slow
infiltration and that does not have to
mean some kind of evil invasion or anything like that. If they had wanted to,
they could have taken over already and
we would all be dead at this point. We
don't seem to get that kind of evil conquistador mentality.
They seem to be here because they
need to be here. Butfortheirreasons and
not for our reasons, even though they
may say something to the contrary.

Budd then showed some slide examples.

First a shot from Gulf Breeze, taken
with a polaroid camera by Ed Walters
and which has been analysed and
authenticated. The flashbulb illuminated the nearby branches of a tree. It
shows an 15-20 foot diameter object,
with a ring of light around the bottom,
hovering over the back area behind Ed's
house.
Budd has an abductee case on Long
Island which dates from 1975 involving
a virtually identical object In many of
these cases the person goes up through
the ring of light in the bottom of the
object.

Kathie Davis case

In the Kathie Davis case from Intruders,
Kathie remembered seeing an object in
flashback which was about 8 feet in diameter and had a four-piece landing
gear. Within a week or tw9 of the incident, the grass had died in a straightline swab about 49 feet long extending
from a rough, circular area. The soil had
been cooked into a kind of rock-like
hardness down to a depth of 6 inches by
something unknown. The soil became
sterile - it would not support life. In
winter six months after the incident,
melting snow drained through this area
more quicldy, as if draining through
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snow.
A full year afterwards, the shape
was still visible. The soil was as hard as
rock - it was like walking on cement.
However, the grass was beginning to
grow back in towards the centre of the
circular area, slowly breaking down the
affected area. Two years later and remarkabledifferenceswerestill visible in
the soil close-up. A control soil sample
taken from outside the circle was heated
in ovens and examined to try to find out
what made it different from the affected
soil. Investigators were not able to duplicate the hardening effect.
The straight line swab was growing
in more quickly, although no-one knew
what this meant -perhaps this was the
area where the object took off (this
makes sense because of overhanging
wires and so on).
Three years later, and it was really
growing back The straight line swab
was now filled with a different kind of
grass, and had a different texture and
colour. There were a lot of soil changes
and weird stunting of plants and so on.
for example, there would be dandelions
with longer flowers than nearby dandelions, and so on.

The skeptical solution

One well-known skeptic in the United
States routinely tries to run all this down
by destroying the characters and reputations of anybody who reports a UFO
sighting. He attacked Kathie Davis, saying she made it all up, but refused to
interview her. He wrote a book instead,
claiming that Budd had mentioned in
Intruders that there was a bird-feeder in
the yard. The skeptic said that a build
up of bird droppings had 'obviously'
killed the grass. The bird-feeder is over
40 feet away from the circle. Budd had
apparently publicly confessed that this
part of it was hoaxed- it had taken 14
years to train the birdstoflyin a straight
line (Budd said the tough part must
have been getting the birds to defecate
on command)!.
Soon after the incident itself, a crack
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ground all around was extremely moist

as it had rained a lot the weeks before
this had happened. Overnight, the affected ground was so baked that it
cracked open.

UFO drawings
Kathie's drawing of the craft that rested
on the spot had four jointed legs. It was
about 12 feet high, vertical, egg-shaped
and it had big balls of light which were
attached to it and moved out from it. A
similar, unpublicised case from South
Africa (the Linda Lares case) showed a
craft with very much the same shape,
with four jointed legs and small lights
attached to it. Both drawings had a
doorway down low.
In another abduction case from
Kathie's area, a woman described the
same craft. When she was finally shown
Kathie Davis' drawing she was totally
devastated - she di9n't like to think
that her experience had been real. One
day while at a beach, she took a walk
away from her friends and remembered
sitting down to enjoy the sunshine.
When she started back to join her
friends she waded out into the water
and felt this terrible pain. She thought
she had been shL.'lg by a jellyfish or
something. but looked down to see a
four-inch straight-line cut down the
back of her calf, which the saltwater had
got to. The cut was not bleeding. but it
was very painfuL When she got back to
the beach her friends were irate because
she had been missing for an hour and a
half and they were getting ready to
leave.
The craft she drew under hypnosis
seems to be a basic type, which is
thought may be used to take individual
abductees up to a larger object- a kind
of shuttle craft
Kathie Davis' first drawing of a figure was of something she saw at the foot
of her bed in one of her encounters. Her
more finished drawing is now commorily copied on tee-shirts and so on.
Another drawing from a case similar to Kathie's came to light in 1983-84,
well before the alien image became fa-

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rniliar to people, and was produced on

the front of the MUFON Journal. Kathie
Davis saw the picture when it arrived
through the mail and first thought that
Budd had sent in her drawing. When
she looked more closely, she realised it
was a little different from hers and there
was a different signature. 1hree or four
years after the event, she Budd that
when she realised it was from somebody else, and that it was so exactly like
hers, it made everything seem so real
that she went into the bathroom and
vomited. Confirmation is often extremely disturbing.

The alien head

One of the interesting points people
note about the alien head is that the neck
is very thin and more or less in the middle of the head- David Jacobs has said
that"it's"a kind of a lollipop on a stick".
the bulk of the human face rides
slightly forward of our necks.
When Budd asked Kathie Davis
why her alien figure is looking up, she
said that it was the way she always sees
him- he's short, so he looks up at her.
(This kind of realism is important.
For example, in one case a man described a UFO coming down at a very
steep angle and drew a craft with a ring
of light around the bottom and some
details of windows. He then made a
series of curving lines, that stopped part
way up the page. When asked what
went across the top of the picture, he
had said he could not see the top. He
drew what he could see.)
Kathie Davis has drawn the little
hybrid child she remembers as her
daughter, and which she has seen several times. She described the child as the
most beautiful child she has ever seen,
with very thin whitish-blonde hair
which does not cover the whole head.
Kathie has two scoop marks from two
separate incidents on her leg. Investigators now know a great deal about how
they happened and the tool that was
used, and so on. Kathie's mother also
has a scoop mark on her leg. in very
much fue same place in front of fue calf.

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There are also lots of scares about

Anns for abductees?
secret equipment being tested, and reAt present there is a big debate going on
ports of captured UFOs and so forth.
amongst UFO researchers. One group is
The US may have something that it is
convinced that the aliens and the Govtrying to test. Budd believes very firmly
ernment are working together and that
that one or two UFO craft crashed in
the abductions represent a huge plot
1947, and that these were collected by
against all of society.
the American Air
One of the articles of faith here is
Force. Presumthat the US Government has traded perably bodies were
mission for the aliens to abduct whoever
The aliens can abduct whoever
recovered - the
they want to abduct in exchange for
they want, whenever tl1elj want.
evidence is now
alien technology. Budd cannot think of
very persuasive
anything more absurd than that, simply
that this ocbecause the aliens can abduct whoever
curred.
they want, whenever they want.
However, what could humans do
The idea that the aliens need apwith these craft. It would be extremely
proval from someone in the US Governdifficult to imagine we could make the
ment to abduct people anywhere in the
wreckage fly. The situation is similar to
world, provided they give them some
the case if, say, General Grant in the US
technology in return, is absurd.
Civil War had come across a crashed
When you look into the abducteeRussian MIG and two dead pilots. What
technology swapping issue, you cannot
would General Grant in 1865 have made
see any evidence that anyone has reof a crashed MIG? We still have this
ceived any kind of technological breakthrough from any alien source
problem with any extremely advanced
technology.
whatsoever. The United States has just
been through the Gulf War, and Gemge
Bush was then so desperate for re-elecD
D
D
tion, that if the US had any special techQuestion: Are there any psychological
nology, then Sad dam Hussein would be
problems common to all abductees?
sitting in a gaol cellnextto Noriega from
Panama. President Bush and his entire
"In UFO abduction cases investiga- "
staff would be riding high for re-electors do not know fully what is going on
because everything is so hidden, and
tion. But that was not the case. Saddam
Hussein is still in Iraq and there was no
because people are so different. Howsign that the Gulf War had any special
ever, there are three known psychological characteristics for abductees
technology, except some more-advanced computer controlled bombs.
reactions:
Stealth bombers cost half a billion dolD they have low self-esteem
lars each and don't even work very well .. D there may be a confused division of
personality and sexuality- a sepaWhen you talk to people who are
rateness of these functions
imbued with this idea of 11 swap they
will then tell you that 'they' are saving D they have some trouble with relationships because of the mistrust
that technology. For what? Bush would
have done anything to stay in office.
they have for other people.
There are also claims and issues
Incidentally,, these are the same
from people like Bob Lasar. While Budd
symptoms as are exhibited by rape vicis not an expert in alien high-technology
tims, and we don' tyet know if they arise
by any means, the man who is most
before or after the abduction events. Inknowledgeable in that area is George
vestigators tend to get involved afterKnapp. George is at a loss as to know
wards, so we do not know if people are
what to make of the Lasar material- it
abducted because they have this menis somewhat tainted and confused.
tality, or if it develops later." D

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Holograms and UFOs

Rosemary Decker is the historian for MUFON, and has been involved in a wide range of UFO investigations since
the early 1950s. Recently, Rosemary's concern has been to take an historical approach to certain kinds of phenomena
that UFO investigators have been interested in, and to possibly re-evaluate them.

Many of you will be familiar with the

technical p1inciples involved in using a
laser light beam to create a holographic
projection.
Holograms, in a range of styles and
applications have been with us for several decades, and are becoming more
generally available anq fashionable. For
example, one 1984 issue of National Geographic used a 'hologram' picture of a
bird on its cover -you move the copy
from side-to-side to get a slightly different view of a bird, that is almost threedimensional. This type of hologram
splits natural or white light into its component colours to present two slightly
different pictures, one for each eye. This
creates an optical illusion of depth (a bit
like the red and green glasses used for
3-d movies), and is not a true hologram.
Holograms can be quite sophisticated and science museums use them in
small public displays. You look into a
box and see a three-dimensional head or
a chess-piece that you can move your
head around. Or, by rotating the box the
image inside seems to rotate, until you
can see the other side of it.
These holograms are generated by
splitting a laser light beam from the
same light source into two, and illuminating an object with both light beams.
The two sets of light rays are reflected
from the surface of the object and mix
with each other, creating a complicated
'interference' pattern. This interference
pattern has areas where the light waves
add to each other to produce a bright
spot, or shows darker spots where the

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light waves subtract from each other.

The pattern is specific to the colour of
laser being used (most laser syste1ns use
single-colour, or monochromatic light)
and the object being illuminated.
The interference pattern can be recorded on photographic film, and this
interference film has unusual proper
ties:
D by shining laser light of the same
colour through a photographic film
of such an interference pattern, a
virtual image of the miginal object
can be projected bact to the same
relative position as the original object. You can 'recreate' the original
object suspended in space.
D if you cut up the original piece of
photographic film and shine laser
light through only a small piece of
it, the object image still appears
(however, the amount of detail on
the object's surface diminishes as
the size of the film piece is reduced
-:- the small piece has less interference pattern, or less information to
use)
Holographic images have only been
generally available since the 1960s and
1970s, and are usually single-coloured.
However, more complex holographic phenomena appear to have
been around in the Earth's environment
for considerably longer.

The shrine of Nock

For example, at the the Shrine of Nock
in Ireland in 1887, parishioners reported

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Vehicle interference

seeing images of statues of the saints

outside the local church one August
evening. The statues were all suspended some 18 inches above the
ground. Joumalists interviewed locals
within a week of the reports and provided detailed accounts of what was

for Balthazar by the Jewish prophet

Daniel). Many religious accounts of
holograms have an historical and political basis, as in the Neck instance.
A large proportion of holographic
phenomena seem to occur in mountainous terrain.

seen.

At the time, the political and social

situation in Ireland was very harsh. The
miraculous event greatly boosted people's morale, and the area has become a
centre of pilgrimage and healing since.

Cairo
Similary, in the early 1970s similar phenomena were reported near a tomb in a
suburb of Cairo in Egypt. These nighttime apparitions were photographed.
They lasted 15-20 minutes at a time and
were viewed by thousands of people
over a number of days. The figures were
self-luminous; occasionally there
seemed to be faint light beams coming
down to the images from a clear night
sky.
The images did not photograph
well, and were usually blurred with little detail. Occasionally white 'doves'
seemed to appear with them and there
was some slight movement of the overall apparition. Doves were seen to fly
amongst nearby trees.
At one time a woman approached
the apparition of a robed woman,
bowed down and tried to touch its feet
-she could not feel anything there.
In one, a figure about 10 feet tall
seemed to walk slowly, and tip over
slightly before straightening up.
The occurrences became a source of
religious attention.
,
Most of these phenomena show
characteristics similar to those of holographic projections.
Biblical holograms?
Possibly one of the earliest reported
'hologram' phenomena was recorded
around 2500 BC in The Bible. This is the
account of a strange hand that wrote on
the wall at the Feast of Balthazar (the
message was subsequently translated

December 1992

Fyffe, Alabama
In more recent times, we have the Fyffe
Alabama UFO case. Fyffe has a population of around 3000 and is located at the
southern end of the Appalachian mountains -an area of very conscientious
bible-belt people. Local residents reported seeing a range of aerial craft repeated! y over
several days.
A large proportion of holographic
These were small
phenomena seem to occur in
and large, and mountainous terrain.
various forms of
people-object interactions including some CESs, were reported.
A Nashville television team experienced a holograhic-type event at that
time. They reported seeing a large truck
coming slowly down from the sky into
some woods nearby. The same evening
a woman was passed by the same truck
which then rose up into t.J,.e sky. Local
people reported mind-boggling experi- "
ences - most went unreported in the
local papers.

Shatner's hologram
Another account from the 1960s comes
from the actor William Shatner. He told
a friend in 1980 that he had been one of
several motorcyclists travelling overland across the American desert. Shatner had been thrown off his bike, which
became bogged down and he seemed to
be utterly lost.
A wave of' emotion' suddenly came
over him. There was a sudden release of
tension and the bike became very easy
to push. He saw a little service station
appear in the desert and then disappear
shortly afterwards. He also saw a
strange craft nearby, and eventually got
back to the road. It was 'as if someone
had put a hand out for him'.

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Ball lightning effects
In Fowler's recent book, The Holographic
Universe, he tells how his father was an
early radio engmeer on late night duty
listening for distress messages from
ships at sea. One night during a blustery
storm a lighining bolt came through the
roof of the building and hit his stomach
area. He was :i:mmobilised but aware of
a ball of lighting in the middle of his
':.-:Jdy. Everything felt very peculiar and

he saw three robed figures with turbans

in front of him. The ball of lighining
drifted from his body and slu:ank into
the hand of one of the figures; eventually the three figures exited out of the
window. He was unharmed.
These accounts would suggest that
some spiritual phenomena may be holographic in nature, asociated with help
and safety. The energies involved seem
to be controllable. 0

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