INTERTANKO TANKER CHARTERING QUESTIONNAIRE 88

1.
VESSEL DESCRIPTION

Version 4

1.1

Date updated:

Nov 29, 2016

1.2

Vessels name (IMO number):

ETC Ramsis (9260809)

1.3

Vessels previous name(s) and date(s) of change:

Mare Salernum (Sep 14, 2010)

1.4

Date delivered / Builder (where built):

Oct 14, 2003 / Mitsui Engineering and

Shipbuilding - Tamano - Japan

1.5

Flag / Port of Registry:

Liberia / Monrovia

1.6

Call sign / MMSI:

A8XB2 / 636014875

1.7

Vessels contact details (satcom/fax/email etc.):

Tel: + (870) 363705960 / (870)

773101789
Fax: + (870) 363705961
Email: etc.ramsis@thomeships.com

1.8

Type of vessel (as described in Form A or Form B Q1.11 of the IOPPC):

Oil Tanker

1.9

Type of hull:

Double Hull

Classification
1.10 Classification society:

Lloyds Register

1.11 Class notation:

+100A1 Double Hull Oil Tanker, ESP,

ShipRight (SDA, FDA, CM, SCM), LI,
+UMS IGS, Descriptive note: Part
Higher Tensile Steel, ETA, COW.

1.12 Is the vessel subject to any conditions of class, class extensions,

outstanding memorandums or class recommendations? If yes, give
details:

No
N/A

1.13 If classification society changed, name of previous and date of change: Registro Italiano Navale, Sep 16, 2010
1.14 IMO type, if applicable:

N/A

1.15 Does the vessel have ice class? If yes, state what level:

N/A, n/a

1.16 Date / place of last dry-dock:

Sep 13, 2013 / SINGAPORE

1.17 Date next dry dock due / next annual survey due:

Oct 14, 2018

1.18 Date of last special survey / next special survey due:

Sep 12, 2013

1.19 If ship has Condition Assessment Program (CAP), what is the latest
overall rating:

No,

1.20 Does the vessel have a statement of compliance issued under the
provisions of the Condition Assessment Scheme (CAS): If yes, what is
the expiry date?

N/A
Not Applicable

Oct 14, 2018

Dimensions
1.21 Length overall (LOA):

245.50 Metres

1.22 Length between perpendiculars (LBP):

234.00 Metres

1.23 Extreme breadth (Beam):

42.00 Metres

1.24 Moulded depth:

21.50 Metres

1.25 Keel to masthead (KTM)/ Keel to masthead (KTM) in collapsed

condition, if applicable:

50.10 Metres

1.26 Bow to center manifold (BCM) / Stern to center manifold (SCM):

123.45 Metres

1.27 Distance bridge front to center of manifold:

1.28 Parallel body distances

122.05 Metres
81.00 Metres

Lightship

Normal Ballast

Summer Dwt

Forward to mid-point manifold:

58.90 Metres

71 Metres

71 Metres

Aft to mid-point manifold:

34.50 Metres

49.90 Metres

68.10 Metres

121 Metres

138.70 Metres

344.00 Millimetres

92.60 Metric
Tonnes

Parallel body length:

93 Metres

1.29 FWA/TPC at summer draft:

1.30 Constant (excluding fresh water):
1.31 What is the company guidelines for Under Keel Clearance (UKC) for
this vessel?
1.32 What is the max height of mast above waterline (air draft)

10 % in the port
Full Mast

Collapsed Mast

Lightship:

47.78 Metres

0 Metres

Normal ballast:

41.50 Metres

0 Metres

At loaded summer deadweight:

35.12 Metres

0 Metres

Tonnages
1.33 Net Tonnage:

33,437.00

1.34 Gross Tonnage / Reduced Gross Tonnage (if applicable):

59,574.00

46,932

1.35 Suez Canal Tonnage - Gross (SCGT) / Net (SCNT):

62,250.00

52,250.00

1.36 Panama Canal Net Tonnage (PCNT):

Ownership and Operation

1.37 Registered owner - Full style:

Egyptian Tanker Company

16 Nehro St. Appartment No. 52. Meryland, Heliopolis,
Cairo, Egypt.
Tel: +2 02 24562614
Fax: +2 0224522236
Email: egtanker@egetanker.com
Company IMO#: 1185781

1.38 Technical operator - Full style:

Thome Ship Management Pte Ltd

16 Raffles Quay No: 43-01 Hong Leong Building, Singapore.
Tel: + 65 6220 7291
Fax: +65 6225 1527
Email: vetting@thome.com.sg
Web: www.thome.com.sg
Company IMO#: 1185781

1.39 Commercial operator - Full style:

V8 Pool Inc.
3 Temasek Avenue, #25-01 Centennial Tower,
Singapore 0391903.
Tel: + 65 6622 0088
Fax: + 65 6622 0099
Email: ops@navig8group.com
Web: www.navig8group.com

1.40 Disponent owner - Full style:

V8 Pool Inc. c/o Navig8 Pte.

Trust Company Complex
Ajeltake Road
Ajeltake Island
Majuro
Marshall Island MH 96960
Tel: +65-66220088
Fax: +65-66220077
Telex: Not Applicable
Email: ops@navig8group.com

2.

CERTIFICATION

Issued

Last Annual

Expires

2.1
2.2

Safety Equipment Certificate (SEC):

Oct 13, 2016

Oct 24, 2016

Oct 14, 2018

Safety Radio Certificate (SRC):

Nov 14, 2014

Oct 12, 2016

Oct 14, 2018

2.3
2.4

Safety Construction Certificate (SCC):

Oct 24, 2016

Oct 24, 2016

Oct 14, 2018

International Loadline Certificate (ILC):

Sep 12, 2013

Oct 24, 2016

Oct 14, 2018

2.5

International Oil Pollution Prevention Certificate

(IOPPC):

Oct 24, 2016

Oct 24, 2016

Oct 14, 2018

2.6

ISM Safety Management Certificate (SMC):

Jan 22, 2016

Jan 22, 2016

Jan 21, 2021

2.7

Document of Compliance (DOC):

Jan 31, 2013

Jan 26, 2016

Jan 11, 2018

2.8

USCG Certificate of Compliance (COC):

Sep 10, 2015

Sep 10, 2015

Sep 10, 2017

2.9

Civil Liability Convention (CLC) 1992 Certificate:

Feb 20, 2016

Not Applicable

Feb 20, 2017

2.10 Civil Liability for Bunker Oil Pollution Damage

Convention (CLBC) Certificate:

Feb 20, 2016

Not Applicable

Feb 20, 2017

2.11 Ship Sanitation Control (SSCC)/Ship Sanitation

Control Exemption (SSCE) Certificate:

Oct 11, 2016

Not Applicable

Apr 11, 2017

2.12 U.S. Certificate of Financial Responsibility (COFR):

Sep 04, 2016

Not Applicable

2.13 Certificate of Class (COC):

Mar 18, 2014

Oct 24, 2016

Oct 14, 2018

2.14 International Sewage Pollution Prevention

Certificate (ISPPC):

Sep 11, 2013

Not Applicable

Oct 14, 2018

Not Applicable

Not Applicable

Not Applicable

Not Applicable

Not Applicable

2.15 Certificate of Fitness (COF):

2.16 International Energy Efficiency Certificate (IEEC):
2.17 International Ship Security Certificate (ISSC):

Jan 22, 2016

Jan 22, 2016

Jan 21, 2021

2.18 International Air Pollution Prevention Certificate

(IAPPC):

Oct 24, 2016

Oct 24, 2016

Oct 14, 2018

2.19 Maritime Labour Certificate (MLC):

Jul 04, 2013

Not Applicable

Jul 04, 2018

Documentation
2.20 Owner warrant that vessel is member of ITOPF and will remain so for

Yes

the entire duration of this voyage/contract:

2.21 Does vessel have in place a Drug and Alcohol Policy complying with
OCIMF guidelines for Control of Drugs and Alcohol Onboard Ship?

Yes

2.22 Is the ITF Special Agreement on board (if applicable)?

2.23 ITF Blue Card expiry date:
3.

CREW

3.1

Nationality of Master:

Croatian

3.2

Number and Nationality of Officers:

8
Filipino, Croatian, Egyptian

3.3

Number and Nationality of Crew:

14
FILIPINO

3.4

What is the common working language onboard:

ENGLISH

3.5

Do officers speak and understand English?

Yes

3.6

If Officers/Crew employed by a Manning Agency - Officers:

Full style:
MST Marine Services (Phils.),Inc1
1747 Dian street, Palanan, Makaty City, Philippines, Tel:
+63 2-551 2808 to 14 Fax: +63 2-551 1526 Telex: NA
Email: marilyn.gonzales@tsmphil.com.ph
Tel: +63 2-551 2808 to 14
Fax: +63 2-551 1526
Email: vetting@thome.com.sg
Crew:
MST Marine Services (Phils.),Inc
1747 Dian street, Palanan, Makaty City, Philippines
Tel: +63 2-551 2808 to 14
Fax: +63 2-551 1526
Email: marilyn.gonzales@tsmphil.com.ph

4.

FOR USA CALLS

4.1

Has the vessel Operator submitted a Vessel Spill Response Plan to the
US Coast Guard which has been approved by official USCG letter?

4.2

Qualified individual (QI) - Full style:

Compliance System Inc (CSI)

Hamilton House
26 East Bryan Street
Savannah, Georgia 31401
USA
Primary Contact : Rich Wigger Mobile : (912)441-7554
Alternate Contact : Robbie Shea Mobile (912)441-5495
Alternate Contact : Alan West Mobile : (912)224-4546
Tel: +1-912-441-7554
Fax: +1-912-231-2938
Email: csi@compliancesystemsinc.com

4.3

Oil Spill Response Organization (OSRO) - Full

style:

NATIONAL RESPONSE CORPORATION (NRC)

3500 Sunrise Highway, Suite T103,
Great River, NY 11739, USA
3500 SUNRISE HIGHWAY, SUITE T103, GREAT RIVER. NY
11739, USA.
Tel: +1-800-424-8802 / 1Fax: +1-631-224-9086

5.

CARGO AND BALLAST HANDLING 14.98

Yes

Double Hull Vessels

5.1

Is vessel fitted with centerline bulkhead in all cargo tanks? If Yes, solid Yes, Solid
or perforated:

Loadline Information
5.2

5.3

Loadline

Freeboard

Draft

Deadweight

Displacement

Summer:

6.58 Metres

14.98 Metres

110,673 Metric
Tonnes

127,834 Metric
Tonnes

Winter:

6.89 Metres

14.66 Metres

107,822 Metric
Tonnes

124,952 Metric
Tonnes

Tropical:

6.29 Metres

15.29 Metres

113,587 Metric
Tonnes

130,717 Metric
Tonnes

Lightship:

19.22 Metres

2.32 Metres

Normal Ballast Condition:

14.64 Metres

7.00 Metres

Does vessel have multiple SDWT? If yes, please provide all assigned
loadlines:

Not Applicable

17,186 Metric
Tonnes

38,108 Metric
Tonnes

55,294 Metric
Tonnes

Yes

Cargo Tank Capacities

5.4

Number of cargo tanks and total cubic capacity (98%):

14 Included slop
tanks

123,431.70 Cu.
Metres

5.5

Capacity (98%) of each natural segregation with double valve (specify Seg#1: 41016 m3 (1p - 1s - 4p - 4s tanks):
slop s)
Seg#2: 41856 m3 (2p - 2s - 5p - 5s)
Seg#3: 42637 m3 (3p - 3s - 6p - 6s slop p)

5.6

Number of slop tanks and total cubic capacity (98%):

5.7

Specify segregations which slops tanks belong to and their capacity

with double valve:

5.8

Residual/Retention oil tank(s) capacity (98%), if applicable:

5.9

Does vessel have Segregated Ballast Tanks (SBT) or Clean Ballast

Tanks (CBT):

2,079.80 Cu.
Metres

SBT

SBT Vessels
5.10 What is total SBT capacity and percentage of SDWT vessel can
maintain?
5.11 Does vessel meet the requirements of MARPOL Annex I Reg 18.2:

41,344.20 Cu.
Metres

38.00 %

Yes

Cargo Handling and Pumping Systems

5.12 How many grades/products can vessel load/discharge with double
valve segregation:

5.13 Are there any cargo tank filling restrictions?

No
If yes, specify number of slack tanks, max s.g., ullage restrictions etc.: n/a
5.14 Pumps

No.

Type

Capacity

At What Head
(sg=1.0)

Cargo Pumps:

Centrifugal

3000 M3/HR

135 Meters
135 Meters
135 Meters

Cargo Eductors:

High Pressure

400 Cu.
Metres/Hour

0 Metres

Stripping:

Reciprocating

200 Cu.
Metres/Hour

135 Metres

Ballast Pumps:

Centrifugal

1,500 Cu.
Metres/Hour

35 Metres

Ballast Eductors:

Eductor

300 Cu.
Metres/Hour

0 Metres

5.15 Max loading rate for homogenous cargo per manifold connection:
5.16 Max loading rate for homogenous cargo loaded simultaneously
through all manifolds:

3,500 Cu. Metres/Hour

10,600.00 Cu. Metres/Hour

5.17 How many cargo pumps can be run simultaneously at full capacity:

Cargo Control Room

5.18 Is ship fitted with a Cargo Control Room (CCR)?

Yes

5.19 Can tank innage / ullage be read from the CCR?

Yes

Gauging and Sampling

5.20 Can cargo be transferred under closed loading conditions in
accordance with ISGOTT 11.1.6.6?

Yes

5.21 What type of fixed closed tank gauging system is fitted:

Radar

5.22 Number of portable gauging units (example- MMC) on board:

5.23 Are overfill (high) alarms fitted? If Yes, indicate whether to all tanks or Yes, All
partial:
5.24 Are cargo tanks fitted with multipoint gauging? If yes, specify type and Yes,
locations:
5.25 Is gauging system certified and calibrated? If no, specify which ones
are not calibrated:

Yes,

Vapor Emission Control System (VECS)

5.26 Is a Vapour Emission Control System (VECS) fitted?

Yes

5.27 Number/size of VECS manifolds (per side):

400 Millimetres

5.28 Number / size / type of VECS reducers:

Venting
5.29 State what type of venting system is fitted:

Individual P/V Valves (High speed

venting + Vacuum Relief)

Cargo Manifolds and Reducers

5.30 Does vessel comply with the latest edition of the OCIMF
'Recommendations for Oil Tanker Manifolds and Associated
Equipment?

Yes

5.31 Total number / size of cargo manifold connections on each side:

3 / 450.00 Millimetres

5.32 What type of valves are fitted at manifold:

Manual valves

5.33 What is the material/rating of the manifold:

Steel /

5.34 Does the vessel have a Common Line Manifold connection? If yes,
describe:
5.35 Distance between cargo manifold centers:

2,500.00 Millimetres

5.36 Distance ships rail to manifold:

5,100.00 Millimetres

5.37 Distance manifold to ships side:

5,100.00 Millimetres

5.38 Top of rail to center of manifold:

700.00 Millimetres

5.39 Distance main deck to center of manifold:

1,900.00 Millimetres

5.40 Spill tank grating to center of manifold:

900.00 Millimetres

5.41 Manifold height above the waterline in normal ballast / at SDWT

condition:

16.50 Metres

5.42 Number / size / type of reducers:

6 x 450/400mm
3 x 450/300mm
3 x 450/250mm
3 x 450/200mm
3 x 150/200mm
ANSI

5.43 Is vessel fitted with a stern manifold? If yes, state size:

No, 0 Millimetres

8.46 Metres

(18/16")
(18/12")
(18/10")
(18/8")
(6/8")

Heating
5.44 Cargo / slop tanks fitted with a cargo heating
system?

Type

Coiled

Material

Cargo Tanks:

Heating coils

Yes

SS

Slop Tanks:

Heating Coils

Yes

SS

5.45 Maximum temperature cargo can be loaded / maintained:

44.0 C / 111.2 F

66 C / 150.8 F

5.46 Minimum temperature cargo can be loaded / maintained:

Coating / Anodes
5.47 Tank Coating
Cargo tanks:

Coated
Yes

Type
Pure Epoxy paint

To What Extent

Anodes

Slop Tanks: Totally

coated Pure Epoxy
Paint Cargo Tanks
1W, 2W, 3W, 4W,
5W,6W - Deckhead
and below to
faceplate of
transversal
structures:
Modified Epoxy
Paint Tanktop and
1.5 m above: Pure

No

Epoxy paint
Ballast tanks:

Yes

Epoxy

Whole Tank

Slop tanks:

Yes

PURE EPOXY PAINT

Whole Tank

6.

INERT GAS AND CRUDE OIL WASHING

6.1

Is a Crude Oil Washing (COW) installation fitted / operational?

6.2

Is an Inert Gas System (IGS) fitted / operational?

6.3

Is IGS supplied by flue gas, inert gas (IG) generator and/or nitrogen:

7.

MOORING

7.1

Wires (on drums)

7.2

7.4

7.5

7.6

Yes / Yes
Yes / Yes

Diameter

Material

Flue Gas

Length

Breaking Strength

Forecastle:

34 Millimetres Galv. steel

250 Metres

80.00 Metric
Tonnes

Main deck fwd:

34 Millimetres Galv. steel

250 Metres

80.00 Metric
Tonnes

Main deck aft:

34 Millimetres Gal. Steel

250 Metres

80.00 Metric
Tonnes

Poop deck:

34 Millimetres Galv. steel

250 Metres

80.00 Metric
Tonnes

Wire tails

No.

Diameter

Material

Length

Breaking Strength

Forecastle:

72 Millimetres Polymix

11 Metres 113 Metric Tonnes

Main deck fwd:

72 Millimetres Polymix

11 Metres 113 Metric Tonnes

Main deck aft:

72 Millimetres Polymix

11 Metres 113 Metric Tonnes

Poop deck:
7.3

No.

Yes

Ropes (on drums)

72 Millimetres Polymix

No.

Diameter

Material

11 Metres 113 Metric Tonnes

Length

Breaking Strength

Forecastle:

0 Millimetres NIL

0 Metres

0 Metric Tonnes

Main deck fwd:

0 Millimetres NIL

0 Metres

0 Metric Tonnes

Main deck aft:

0 Millimetres NIL

0 Metres

0 Metric Tonnes

Poop deck:

0 Millimetres NIL

0 Metres

Other lines

No.

Forecastle:

Main deck fwd:

Main deck aft:

Poop deck:

Winches

Diameter

Material

Length

72 Millimetres P.P./P.E.T.P.

220 Metres 100 Metric Tonnes

0 Millimetres
0 Millimetres
72 Millimetres P.P./P.E.T.P.

No.

No. Drums

Motive Power

0 Metric Tonnes
Breaking Strength

0 Metres

0 Metric Tonnes

0 Metres

0 Metric Tonnes

220 Metres 100 Metric Tonnes

Brake Capacity

Type of Brake

Forecastle:

Dbl

Hydraulic

56.50 Metric Mechanical

Tonnes

Main deck fwd:

Dbl

Hydraulic

56.50 Metric Mechanical

Tonnes

Main deck aft:

Dbl

Hydraulic

56.50 Metric Mechanical

Tonnes

Poop deck:

Dbl

Hydraulic

56.50 Metric Mechanical

Tonnes

Bitts, closed chocks/fairleads

No. Bitts

SWL Bitts

No. Closed Chocks

SWL Closed
Chocks

Forecastle:

92 Metric Tonnes

89 Metric Tonnes

Main deck fwd:

92 Metric Tonnes

89 Metric Tonnes

Main deck aft:

92 Metric Tonnes

89 Metric Tonnes

Poop deck:

92 Metric Tonnes

10

89 Metric Tonnes

Anchors/Emergency Towing System

7.7

Number of shackles on port / starboard cable:

12 / 13

7.8

Type / SWL of Emergency Towing system forward:

Chafing chain

204 Metric Tonnes

7.9

Type / SWL of Emergency Towing system aft:

Pushes

250 Metric Tonnes

Escort Tug
7.10 What is size / SWL of closed chock and/or fairleads of enclosed type on
stern:
7.11 What is SWL of bollard on poop deck suitable for escort tug:

290 mm

250.00 Metric
Tonnes

250.00 Metric Tonnes

Bow/Stern Thruster
7.12 What is brake horse power of bow thruster (if fitted):

No, 0 bhp

7.13 What is brake horse power of stern thruster (if fitted):

No, 0 bhp

Single Point Mooring (SPM) Equipment

7.14 Does the vessel meet the recommendations in the latest edition of
OCIMF 'Recommendations for Equipment Employed in the Bow
Mooring of Conventional Tankers at Single Point Moorings (SPM)?

Yes

7.15 If fitted, how many chain stoppers:

7.16 State type / SWL of chain stopper(s):

Tongue

204.00 Metric
Tonnes

7.17 What is the maximum size chain diameter the bow stopper(s) can
handle:

76.00 Millimetres

7.18 Distance between the bow fairlead and chain stopper/bracket:

2.70 Millimetres

7.19 Is bow chock and/or fairlead of enclosed type of OCIMF recommended Yes
size
0
(600mm x 450mm)? If not, give details of size:
Lifting Equipment
7.20 Derrick / Crane description (Number, SWL and location):

Cranes: 1 x 15.00 Tonnes

MIDSHIP

7.21 What is maximum outreach of cranes / derricks outboard of the ships

side:

3.00 Metres

Ship To Ship Transfer (STS) / Helicopter Operations

7.22 Does vessel comply with recommendations contained in OCIMF/ICS
Ship To Ship Transfer Guide (Petroleum, Chemicals or Liquified Gas, as
applicable)?
7.23 Can the ship comply with the ICS Helicopter Guidelines? If Yes, state
whether winching or landing area provided and diameter of the circle
provided:
8.

Yes

Yes, Winching
5.00 Metres

MISCELLANEOUS

Engine
8.1

Speed

Maximum

Ballast speed:

15.50 Knots
(WSNP)

Laden speed:

14.50 Knots
(WSNP)

Economic

8.2

What type of fuel is used for main propulsion / generating plant:

380 Cst

8.3

Type / Capacity of bunker tanks:

Fuel Oil: 2,639.30 Cu. Metres

Diesel Oil: 1,460.60 Cu. Metres
Gas Oil: 0 Cu. Metres

8.4

Is vessel fitted with fixed or controllable pitch propeller(s):

Fixed

8.5

Engines

No

Capacity

FO and MDO

Make/Type

Main engine:
Aux engine:

Power packs:
Boilers:

25.00 Metric
Tonnes/Hour

Emissions
8.6

Main engine IMO NOx emission standard:

8.7

Energy Efficiency Design Index (EEDI) rating number:

NA

Insurance
8.8

P & I Club - Full Style:

NORTH OF ENGLAND
North Of England P&I Association Limited, The Quayside,
Newcastle upon Tune,
NE1 3DU UK,
Telephone: +44(0) 191 232 5221
E-mail: general@nepia.com
www.nepia.com
Tel: +44(0) 191 232 5221
Email: general@nepia.com
Web: www.nepia.com

8.9

P & I Club pollution liability coverage / expiration date:

8.10 Hull & Machinery insured by - Full Style:

1,000,000,000 US$

SIAT

8.11 Hull & Machinery insured value / expiration date:

Recent Operational History
8.12 Date and place of last Port State Control inspection:

Oct 18th, 2016 / Busan

8.13 Any outstanding deficiencies as reported by any Port State Control? If 1.Insulation material for elevator trunk
yes, provide details:
damaged. Corrective action taken:
damaged insulation material replaced,
crew training carried out
8.14 Has vessel been involved in a pollution, grounding, serious casualty or Pollution: No, n/a
collision incident during the past 12 months? If yes, full description:
Grounding: No, n/a
Casualty: No, n/a
Collision: No, n/a
8.15 Last three cargoes / charterers / voyages (Last / 2nd Last / 3rd Last):

Last: Kimanis Blend Crude / Ampol /

Kimanis to Brisbane
2nd Last: Kidurong Crude / Pertamina /
Kidurong to Cilacap
3rd Last: LSFO + HSFO / Rolympus /
Gothenburg + Marsaxlokk Bay to
Singapore + Mizushima

8.16 Date/place of last STS operation:

16 Aug 2016 / Malta

Vetting
8.17 Date of last SIRE inspection:

22 Sep 2016 / Exxonmobil / Mizushima

8.18 Date of last CDI inspection:

N/A

8.19 Recent Oil company inspections/screenings (To the best of owners

TBOOK: PRIMORSK, ERG, LUKOIL,
knowledge and without guarantee of acceptance for future business)*: STATOIL, CHEVRON, VALERO, P66,
* "Approvals" are not given by Oil Majors and ships are accepted for
KOCH & EXXONMOBIL.
the voyage on a case by case basis.
Additional Information
8.20 Additional information relating to features of the ship or operational
characteristics:
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