Blower 6/71
Blower 6/71
Blower 6/71
First thing you need to do is pull it apart make sure there are no deep scratches in the case or rotors.
(Minor ones are OK. This isn’t a competition blower it’s a street/strip blower at best.)
When you remove the gear cover you need to try and mark the orientation of the gears to the rotors
so to keep them in time (phase) when you reassemble. (A punch mark is best.) When you try and
remove the gears the best way is to use two pullers and alternate the pressure on them so to pull
them off together. (This assures you not to chip or warp the gears.) Also mark the gears left and right
and relate them to the rotors after you’ve pulled them out. SAVE ALL THE ORIGINAL PARTS
TILL RE-ASSEMBLED
Take a look at your rotors. You will notice they are stamped one with a U and one with an L. This is
for upper and lower. (Remember this thing hung on its side on the Detroit Diesel it came from.) This
will be important during re-assembly. Check the rotor "sealing lip" surface (marked X) and the rotor
lobe side surfaces (marked O) for galling, scoring, or deep grooves if it has them forget it the rotors
can't be repaired the rotors are junk. Most people look at the outer edge of the rotor lobe, but this is
not where wear is first noticeable (the rotors will usually hit each other before they rub on the case
wall, marked by the "O") the outer lip (marked "X") or flat raised edge of the rotor should be at least
.080-.090-inch tall.
Next, throw away the stock endplates. Keep the front cover. (The one without the funny foreskin
type lip.) You can reuse the stock plates them with some work, but if you call Don Hampton He can
set you up with quality parts. Front and rear plates 105.00 each cast finish. (I found him to be eager
to help and his parts the most reasonably priced.)http://www.hamptonblowers.com/)
The two extra support bars on the inlet side can come out because the added strength is no longer
needed since it's no longer hanging sideways on a big diesel engine.
OK, your blower is apart now you need to cut the tab off the one side. A hack saw would do but if
you have a Bridgeport available use it. Then use a belt sander to reshape the case where you cut off
the tab.
Now clean and sand blast the case. If you see any bubbles or holes in the case especially around the
boltholes for the endplates leave them alone and paint the case black. If you try to polish the case
these will get worse and welding cast is a bitch. The same goes for your front cover.>>
Assuming you are going to polish your blower now is the time to order you parts. (I’m not
going to go through polishing but I will tell you it is a lot of work but it’s worth it.)
You will need new bearings, seals and gaskets. Both ebay stores of dean671 blowers
motorpartsfanaticseller carry complete kits with bearings, seals and gaskets for about $80.00
shipped. Not sure if you get the shaft savers with the motorpartsfanaticseller kit but they do include
extra rotor pins. (The shaft savers press onto the rotor shafts giving you a clean smooth surface for
your seal to ride on.)
You will also need to add extra pins to the blower rotor shafts to assure they don’t twist on
you. (The rotors are hollow and the shafts are just stubs pressed into each end.) Again go to ebay to
dean 671 blowers, 18 bucks plus shipping.
If by some chance you have used blower that’s already been converted and need new
bearings you will need 2 6505-2RS bearings and 2 5205 zz bearings. The 6205’s are a sealed
high- speed single roller bearing. They are easy to find. Tractor Supply has them for 8 bucks. Call your
local bearing store for the 5205’s. These are about 20 bucks each. They’re a little
pricey compared to the 6205’s but still reasonable compared to what the “blower
companies” charge.
As for the seals, the best price I’ve found is Rick Dean’s dean 671 blowers on ebay 35
clams for all for seals and shaft savers. If you need standard seals contact either of the two ebay
stores I’ve mentioned. I tried to buy the seals locally and they’re hard to find almost
always have to be “special ordered” and the price goes up. The Detroit Diesel seal
number is 5192438. NAPA or your local bearing supplier will be able to cross the number for you. The
shaft saver number is 5192439.
You will also need 12 freeze plugs for the ends of the rotors. These need to be replaced because
when you drill for your new pins the rotor fills with the shavings. They are 15/16 part number I use is
PC39 deep cup. Napa has them for 70 cents each.
You’ll also need to order a pressure relief valve and if you want an oil sight glass. Best price I
found is from Good Vibrations around 18 dollars for each. They also sell a bolt and washer kit for 20
bucks that has all the hardware you need to put this blower back together. goodvibesracing.com
You will also need to replace the tri-cover on the front cover. This is a matter of preference, but I
don’t like to buy these from the “blower companies because they all have their logos
on them and this isn’t their blower it’s yours. There is a guy who puts up finned ones
on ebay from time to time for 25 bucks, you’ll have to search. They are made from billet but I
sandblasted mine then polished the fins. Looks real cool.
Total for parts: (never pay more than $350. You can get them all day from a local Diesel scrap yard
for that price.)
Add about $75 bucks for shipping and taxes depending where you live and where you get your parts.
Now if you can find a good used “converted” blower for under $650.00 go for it but
compared to a new “rebuilt” GMC unit DIY is the best option for guys not wanting to
fork out a big hunk of cash all at once. Yes you still need a snout, manifold, crank hub and pulleys but
that’s what the HAMB classifieds and ebay are for. It can be done for under $750.00 keeping
your total less than the cost of a new “rebuilt” GMC 6-71.
OK, back to the parts you have in front of you. Clean the parts with quality aluminum cleaner then
tape off the rotor shafts and bead blast the rotors and the case and cover.
Take a look inside the case to see if there are any scratches that you didn’t see before you
cleaned it. If there are some small scratches in the case use some fine sandpaper in long strokes to
smooth them out.
Next you’ll need to square up your case. You want the ends parallel and flat. This can be
done by your local machine shop or if you have the time you can do it yourself. Just get a flat plate of
steel or aluminum and bolt two handles to it then glue some sandpaper to the plate and lap all four
surfaces of the blower case. Make sure you clamp the case firmly to your work area. Keep this
lapping plate to use on your manifold later on.
First thing to do to the rotors after cleaning and blasting is to remove the freeze plugs. Best way I
found is to punch a hole in the three on one end on the rotor big enough to shove a long 3/8
extension down then pound out the plug on the other side. Then put a socket on the extension and
pound out the ones you made holes in.
Assuming your parts came in you can now put the extra pins in your rotors. You’ll notice the
stock rotors only have one pin on each end these are placed 1.00 in from the end. Turn the rotor and
on an opposite female lobe place a center-punch mark .750 in from the edge of the rotor.
You’ll need to drill them with a 19/64-drill bit. Then lightly tap the pins in place and head
over to a press to press them in. They are a tapered pin, so the fit is tight. Be careful to support your
rotor and use plenty of rags to cushion the aluminum. Place two pins in each rotor. You are putting
these pins in to assure the shafts do not spin at the higher RPM you’ll be running.
(Remember these things only ran 2,500-RPM Max on a diesel.)
Now blow out all debris from inside the rotor and replace the freeze plugs. I use ½ inch 3/8 drive
impact socket and my trusty B.F.H.
After you have your pins and freeze plugs in stand the rotor on end and slide the shaft savers on.
You’ll need a deep well socket and a hammer. Carefully tap the bushings onto the shaft.
Next grab your new Hampton Blowers endplates (That’s if you listened to me earlier.), seals
and bearings. Remember the 6205’s go in the rear endplate and the 5205’s go in the
front. You may need to press them in but an appropriate sized socket and a B.F.H will do. When you
do the rear plate make sure to get the bearing against the lip in the plate. Next install the seals, once
again a press would be best but a seal installer or large socket and a B.F.H will do. After you install
your bearings and seals in your front plate you will need to bolt on the retaining plates. You should
have saved these from your teardown. (DO NOT oil or grease the seals! It will ruin them. They are
designed to run “dry”.)
At this point you can coat the inside of your case and your rotors with EZ-Slide. It’s graphite
paint available at Tractor Supply for under 7 dollars. This is not as good as having them hard anodized
but it helps fill in any imperfections. This coating will wear off eventually but the scratches and pits
should stay filled.
Now it’s time to put this huffer back together.Before we go any further I should mention that
a blower could be accidentally put together backwards. Match up your mounting bolts with your
manifold to make sure of the bolt pattern. The bolt pattern is offset.
One important tool you’ll need is a long set of feeler gauges. You can buy feeler stock in
various sizes from the MCS book. This might save you some money or ask a machinist friend to come
over and bring them for you to borrow. This option usually is the cheapest. (About 20 bucks for the
beer.)
We need to “clearance” the blower. To do this we set the clearances between the
back of the rotors and the face of the rear plate, between the front of the rotors and the front plate,
between the edge of the rotor tip and the case wall at the outlet port (bottom of blower) and less
importantly between the rotor tip and the inlet port (top of the blower) The front and back
clearances are set by machining the ends of the case and the rotors and the rotor to case clearance
are changed by realigning the end plates on the case, and then drilling the end plate alignment dowel
locations and inserting larger dowels.
Also reset is the rotor-to-rotor clearance "C" and "CC" clearances. You cannot reset the rotors closer
together or farther apart the goal is to set the timing of the helical rotors so that the clearance
between any two-rotor lobes is the same. The timing of the rotors is controlled by the meshing of the
drive gears The way you set the timing is by machining the back of the gears the "rule of thumb" is
every .003 thousandths machined off the back of the gears changes rotor timing .001 thousandth).
The factory used shims behind the gears to set the timing but you don't want shims on a gas engine
blower.
The most important clearances to inspect and hold are the rotor to case clearance at the bottom of
the blower followed by the front and back rotor to end plate clearance then the rotor-to-rotor
clearance.
So now the magic numbers for the clearances are front rotor to case clearance is .007 to .008
thousandths. To get that machine the larger diameter outside dimension shoulder where it butts up
to the bearing.
The over length of the rotors are compared to the case. The rotors are then inserted into the front
cover. The rotors are set into the case with large serrations on the splined end of both rotors at 3:00.
The case is then placed horizontally over the rotors and then a depth mic is used to measure from
the case down the rotors you want .023 to .24 thousandths. Subtracting the .007-.008 clearance at
the front that gives you a .016 clearance at the back. Machine the back face of the rotor to obtain
this dimension. If the rotor is short already which it shouldn't be but if it is or a mistake was made
just machine the case to bring this dimension in tolerance.
Then assemble the blower rotors in the end plates, and the end plates to the case together with
screws (finger tight). Now it's time to get to the inside clearances.
Install spacers in place of the gears on the rotor shafts with the gear retaining bolts torqued to spec.
To torque them place a piece of wood in between the rotors to hold them while you tighten.
Then use the feeler gages to check the bottom rotor to case clearance. You want .004 thousandths
here. To obtain this dimension tap the end plates around until this dimension is in tolerance along
the whole length of the bottom of the case on both rotors.
The top rotor to case clearance will be determined by the bottom clearance, you really can't do a
thing about it but it isn't that important.
Next rotor to case clearance is set, on both rotors the actual dimension isn't critical just make them
equal on both sides of the rotors to the case. To do this you have to tap the end plates side to side
which usually upsets the bottom tolerance so then you just start over and over till all these
dimensions are located. (This can take some time)
After these dimensions are correct tighten the end plate screws.
Next remove the gear retaining bolts, and the spacers and install the drive gears and tighten the
retaining bolts. The mesh of the drive gears determines the timing of the rotors. Remember both
gears must be installed at the same time.
Then we check the "C" and "CC" clearance from the Detroit Service Manual. CC and C dimensions are
where the top (CC) and bottom (C) of the male rotor inserted into the female lobe. The clearances
are achieved by machining the back of the gears as stated above. DO NOT USE THE STOCK SHIMS IN
THE FINAL ASSEMBLY!!!! They can be used to determine how much to cut your gears but
that’s it!
After all is well redrill the dowel pin holes in the case and install the oversize pins 5/16's of an inch
diameter. Add your front cover and drive and you’re done. Don’t forget to put oil in
the front cover.
Disclaimer : While I was researching how to rebuild a 6-71 I came across several articles on the net
and in print. Each one lacked something that the others had. Not a one went into complete A to Z
detail. Here I compiled what I felt was the best of all of them plus my own experiences to come up,
with what I feel is, a pretty good guide to your rebuild. (Some pictures and text are not my own. I did
not take pics of mine when I started, plus some of them are better than mine. As for the text cut and
paste is easier than re typing.)