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Valve analog control

mohei_aldeen Oct '19

hello there ,

i’m having a trouble with an actuator (Chinese Actuator M8300 series)


(http://www.cnzxq.com/products/Module/M8000/m8000_pcb.html ) this link
is for the circuit description.

the problem is that we need a (4-20ma) output from the actuator, and the
board responsible for that didn’t come with the actuator. However, the actuator
has a display screen that show the position of the valve in percentage .

the question is : can i get use of modifying the control circuit so i can get the
value of the position and use it in external remote screen ?

i really wish that i can get an answer

thank you very much .

santhosh Oct '19

Hi,

As per the below statement, if you have “Hall Detection Board” then you can
have the 4-20mA analog output for valve position status. We need to see this
board configuration to confirm the same.

M8000 intelligent electric actuator (M83, M84) control board (circuit


board) is mainly composed of the following circuit boards: CPU board
(main control board / computer board), signal board, power board (or filter
board, filter board), The motor drive board (control board) is composed of
a Hall detection board (also called a acquisition board for valve position
detection and motor speed measurement) and a terminal block. The
following describes the appearance and function of these boards:

Make sure the existing display shows the real time valve position. sometimes,
if you don’t have the required sensors/mechanism to read the valve feedback,
the vendor may show command signal in percentage instead of real-time valve
status.

mohei_aldeen Oct '19

thank you very much for replaying ,

santhosh:

the vendor may show command signal in percentage instead of real-time


valve status

i really don’t know if that is the case here , but we have the “drive board” that
contain the hall sensor circuit .

santhosh:

you can have the 4-20mA analog output for valve position status
but we don’t have the “signal board” that responsible for converting the sensor
value to an analog 4-20ma signal .

so do you suggest to make our own and connect it to the hall sensor circuit.?

this is the “drive circuit / hall sensor circuit” that we have >>

and again , i really thank you

santhosh Oct '19

If you have the hall sensor for valve feedback detection, then you need
respective signal board.

The signal board is responsible for completing the analog input and valve
position feedback output function.

We need datasheet of the boards or pin configuration for detailed analysis.

Please request OEM to provide the details.


Its better to use vendor provided circuit borads instead of custom-made/third-
party circuits addition.

Also, as some relays are availbale on the motor board, check for the
availability of OPEN or CLOSE feedback signals atleast inplace of 4-20mA
signal feedback, meanwhile you can try for the analog position feedback.

mohei_aldeen Oct '19

thank you sir ,

i already check the digital auxiliary feed back output that should be found if
the signal board is there ,unfortunately , the absence of the signal board has
been confirmed .

i well try to find a way to get the feedback while i’m trying to get the board
from the vendor because the shipping will take a lot of time .

thank you again

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