Dealing With The Structural Analytical Representation in Revit

Dealing with the Structural
Analytical Representation in Revit

Catalin Lang
Product Owner
About the speaker
Catalin Lang
Former Autodesk customer, currently Autodesk employee,
working in constructions field for over 19 years, going
through several branches of the industry, from junior
unskilled worker to formwork specialist, storekeeper,
project coordinator, project manager, CAD designer,
structural designer. Joined Autodesk since 2014 as Quality
Analyst. Currently, Product Owner for one of the teams that
develops Revit and Advance Steel structural features.
He is specialized in structural modeling and detailing.
Class Summary
CREATE ANALYTICAL REPRESENTATION OF COMPLETE THE ANALYTICAL MODEL FOR

A STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS IN REVIT STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS PURPOSE
• Set-up Revit Environment • Assign Loads
• Create the Structural Elements
• Set-up the Derived Analytical Representation
• Adjust the Position of the Analytical Elements
AUTOMATE THE RELATION BETWEEN INTEGRATE THE STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS IN

PHYSICAL AND ANALYTICAL USING DYNAMO THE INTELLIGENT MODELS
• Verify Analytical Model Consistency • Integrate Structural Analysis Results using Robot
• Adjust the analytical representation using Structural Analysis Toolkit
Autodesk Analytical Modeling 2020 Dynamo
package
Analytical representation of a structural elements in Revit
• The analytical model is a simplified 3D representation of the structural

physical model. It consists of those structural components, geometry,
material properties, and loads, that together form an engineering
system.
• In Revit software, the analytical model is created automatically as the

physical model is built.
Analytical Elements Creation
• In Revit software, the analytical model is created automatically

as the physical model is built.
• Analytical Elements are derived from the correspondent

physical object.
• Analytical Elements are in a continuous relation with the

correspondent physical objects
o Cannot be created without the correspondent physical objects
o Cannot exist without the correspondent physical objects
Analytical Elements Visibility
• Analytical element can be enabled/disabled by checking Enable

Analytical instance parameter from the Properties Palette.
• Analytical element visibility can be controlled from:

o View Control Bar - Show Analytical Model.
o Object Styles in Analytical Model Objects tab.
o Visibility/Graphics Overrides in Analytical Model Categories
tab.
Analytical Model Settings
• The Analytical Model Settings are used to adjust how Revit performs certain
tasks on the analytical model.
• These are project-specific settings, stored within the project.
• Are grouped by:

o Automatic Checks (Member Supports, Analytical/Physical Model Consistency).
o Tolerances (Support distance, Analytical-to-physical model distance, Auto-
detect settings)
o Analytical Model Visibility.
Revit Analytical Elements
• Analytical Column
• Analytical Beam
• Analytical Brace
• Analytical Floors
• Analytical Walls
• Analytical Isolated Foundation
• Analytical Wall Foundation
• Analytical Foundation Slab
• Analytical Line within In-Place Family
• Analytical Surface Opening
Revit Analytical Elements
• Node
• Boundary Conditions
• Analytical (Rigid) Link
Analytical Model Adjustments
• Auto-Detect Adjustment
o Revit can automatically adjust the analytical model, in relation to a
neighboring structural element.
• Projection Adjustment
o Projection references are defined as horizontal and vertical in
relation to the local coordinate system.
• Manual Adjustment
Exercise 1 | Create the Analytical Representation for the
Structural Elements of a Steel Structure in Revit
In this exercise, we’ll create a structural model while dealing also with the analytical representation of it. We’ll create a
simple structure with steel frames and concrete decks. In the end the model will be ready to be consumed by structural
analysis solvers.
(Handout page 21)
Goal
The goal is not just to create the analytical model.
The goal is about creating the analytical representation

in the physical model context.
Summary
• Set-up Revit Environment

• Create the Structural Elements
• Set-up the Derived Analytical Representation
• Adjust the Position of the Analytical Elements
o Auto-Detect Adjustment
o Projection Adjustment
o Manual Adjustment
Set-up Revit Environment
1. Open Exercise_01_StartPoint.rvt
2. Open Level 2 structural view and Analytical Model 3D view
3. Go to View tab Windows panel Tile Views
4. Go to Manage tab Settings panel Structural Settings dialog
Analytica Model Settings tab Make sure that:
• Analytical-to-Physical Model Distance is set to 400mm
• Analytical Auto-Detect – Horizontal is set to 300mm
• Analytical Auto-Detect – Vertical is set to 600mm
Create the Structural Elements for the First Level
1. Create UC305x305x97 steel columns at the axis intersection.

2. Create the beams between columns. Choose UB305x165x40
section type for the beams.
3. Create a floor at Level 2. Choose Floor Generic 300mm type
o The floor offsets from the axis will be 300mm.
4. Set the floor’s offset 300mm above Level 2.
5. Set the analytical floor alignment at the top face of the
physical floor.
o Use Projection Adjustment.
Copy the Elements to the Other Levels
1. Copy the first level elements and to next level.

2. Adjust the analytical columns alignment.
o Use Auto-Detect Adjustment.
3. Copy the elements from Level 3 to Level 4 and Level 5.
Create Braces
1. Create vertical brace.

2. Copy the created bracing on Level 2.
3. Adjust the Level 2 analytical brace’s position
o Use Manual Adjustment.
4. Copy the braces to Level 3 and Level 4
Create the Isolated Footings for the Columns

Automate the relation between physical and analytical
representations using Dynamo
Consistency Checks
Consistency Checks
• Member Supports
o Provides a warning when a member is not supported
• Analytical/Physical Model Consistency

o unsupported structural elements
o inconsistencies found within the analytical model
o inconsistencies between the analytical and physical
models
o analytical elements without a Physical Material Asset
assigned.
Automate the relation between physical and analytical representations
using Dynamo
The Autodesk Analytical Modeling 2020 Dynamo package helps structural engineers better control and automate the
creation and adjustment of analytical models in Revit.
Customizable logic helps you create different rules-based analytical models for diverse types of buildings and multiple
analytical model variants for similar building structures, and allows you to use similar patterns across projects.
Exercise 2 | Adjust the Analytical Representation of a
Structural Model using Dynamo
In this exercise, we’ll adjust the analytical representation of the same structure using a Dynamo tool.
Autodesk Analytical Modeling Dynamo package is used to generate a consistent and connected analytical
representation that corresponds to the geometric shapes of the model.
(Handout page 36)
Goal
Automate analytical model adjustment.

Set-up Environment
1. Add Autodesk Analytical Modeling 2020 Dynamo package to

your collection.
2. Open Exercise_02_StartPoint.rvt.
3. Copy all elements to Level 3, 4 and 5.
Verify Analytical Model Consistency
1. Enable the Member Supports and Analytical/Physical Model

Consistency automatic checks.
2. Explore the warnings.
Adjust the Analytical Representation Using Dynamo
1. Load analytical modeling scripts in Dynamo Player.

2. Using Adjust the elements between categories script
o Select elements
o Set-up the parameters
▪ First Priority Elements: Floors
▪ Second Priority Elements: Framings
▪ Third Priority Elements: Columns
▪ Set Force Tolerance to Change to True
o Use Relative Tolerance and Set the tolerance to 600mm
3. Run the script to adjust the elements.
Fix All Warnings
1. Create isolated foundation for columns.

2. Attach boundary conditions for columns support.
Complete the Analytical Model in Revit for Structural Analysis
Purpose
Complete the Analytical Model in Revit for Structural Analysis Purpose
Loads
• Types of Loads
o Un-hosted loads
▪ Point Load
▪ Line Load
▪ Area Load
o Hosted Loads
▪ Hosted Point Load
▪ Hosted Line Load
▪ Hosted Area Load.
Loads
• Load Nature
• Load Cases
Loads
• Load Combinations
Exercise 3 | Complete the Analytical Model in Revit for
Structural Analysis Purpose
Exercise 3 | Complete the Analytical Model in Revit for Structural
Analysis Purpose
In this exercise, we’ll define hosted loads to prepare the model for structural analysis.
(Handout page 48)
Analysis Purpose
Goal
Assign loads to analytical elements.

Analysis Purpose
Apply Hosted Loads
• Open Exercise_03_01_StartPoint.rvt
1. Apply hosted linear load to top level perimetral beams.
2. Apply hosted area load to all floors.
Integrate Structural Analysis Results in Revit Workflow
Automate the relation between physical and analytical representations
using Dynamo
The Structural Analysis Toolkit for Autodesk® Revit® software is a suite of tools that supports the Building Information
Modeling (BIM) process and allows structural engineers to analyze and check your structure from within the Autodesk®
Revit® environment.
Using this toolkit structural designers and engineers can optimize their workflows by extending the Revit model to
Autodesk® Robot™ Structural Analysis Professional software or supported third party analysis solutions. Once
complete, analysis results can be easily stored and explored in the Revit environment.
Exercise 4 | Integrate Structural Analysis Results using Robot
Structural Analysis Toolkit
In this exercise, we’ll explore structural analysis results using a Revit addin – Structural Analysis Toolkit.
(Handout page 53)
Goal
Explore the structural analysis results in Revit.

• Open Exercise_04_StartPoint.rvt
• Go to Analyze tab > Structural Analysis panel > Result Explorer
• Explore the results
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CREATE ANALYTICAL REPRESENTATION OF COMPLETE THE ANALYTICAL MODEL FOR

AUTOMATE THE RELATION BETWEEN INTEGRATE THE STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS IN

• The analytical model is a simplified 3D representation of the structural

• In Revit software, the analytical model is created automatically as the

Analytical Elements Creation

• In Revit software, the analytical model is created automatically

• Analytical Elements are derived from the correspondent

• Analytical Elements are in a continuous relation with the

Analytical Elements Visibility

• Analytical element can be enabled/disabled by checking Enable

• Analytical element visibility can be controlled from:

Analytical Model Settings

• These are project-specific settings, stored within the project.

• Are grouped by:

Revit Analytical Elements

Revit Analytical Elements

Analytical Model Adjustments

The goal is not just to create the analytical model.

The goal is about creating the analytical representation

• Set-up Revit Environment

Set-up Revit Environment

Create the Structural Elements for the First Level

1. Create UC305x305x97 steel columns at the axis intersection.

Copy the Elements to the Other Levels

1. Copy the first level elements and to next level.

1. Create vertical brace.

Create the Isolated Footings for the Columns

• Analytical/Physical Model Consistency

Automate analytical model adjustment.

1. Add Autodesk Analytical Modeling 2020 Dynamo package to

Verify Analytical Model Consistency

1. Enable the Member Supports and Analytical/Physical Model

Adjust the Analytical Representation Using Dynamo

1. Load analytical modeling scripts in Dynamo Player.

Fix All Warnings

1. Create isolated foundation for columns.

Assign loads to analytical elements.

Apply Hosted Loads

Explore the structural analysis results in Revit.

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