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Table 15.1(d) Pipe Sizing Between First-Stage and Second-Stage Regulators: Nominal Pipe Size,
Schedule 80
Undiluted
Gas:
Propane
Inlet Pressure: 10.0 psi
Pressure
1.0 psi
Drop:
Specific
1.502
Gravity:
INTENDED USE: Pipe Sizing Between First-Stage (High-Pressure) Commented [BS1]: COMP: This should go across entire
Regulator and Second-Stage (Low-Pressure) Regulator. column
3 1⁄2
Pipe Length 1⁄2 in. 3⁄4 in. 1 1⁄4 in. 1 1⁄2 in. 2 in. 3 in. in. 4 in.
(ft) 0.546 0.742 1 in. 0.957 1.278 1.5 1.939 2.9 3.364 3.826
30 1309 2927 5706 12185 18548 36368 104539 154295 216246
40 1121 2505 4884 10429 15875 31127 89472 132057 185079
50 993 2221 4328 9243 14069 27587 79297 117039 164032
Undiluted
Gas:
Propane
Inlet Pressure: 10.0 psi
Pressure
1.0 psi
Drop:
Specific
1.502
Gravity:
INTENDED USE: Pipe Sizing Between First-Stage (High-Pressure) Commented [BS1]: COMP: This should go across entire
Regulator and Second-Stage (Low-Pressure) Regulator. column
3 1⁄2
Pipe Length 1⁄2 in. 3⁄4 in. 1 1⁄4 in. 1 1⁄2 in. 2 in. 3 in. in. 4 in.
(ft) 0.546 0.742 1 in. 0.957 1.278 1.5 1.939 2.9 3.364 3.826
60 900 2012 3922 8375 12748 24996 71849 106046 148625
70 828 1851 3608 7705 11728 22996 66100 97561 136733
80 770 1722 3357 7168 10911 21393 61494 90762 127204
90 723 1616 3149 6725 10237 20073 57697 85159 119351
100 683 1526 2975 6353 9670 18960 54501 80440 112738
150 548 1226 2389 5105 7765 15236 43766 64596 90533
200 469 1049 2045 4366 6646 13031 37458 55286 77484
250 416 930 1812 3870 5890 11549 33198 48999 68673
300 377 842 1642 3506 5337 10465 30080 44397 62223
350 347 775 1511 3226 4910 9627 27673 40844 57244
400 322 721 1405 3001 4568 8956 25745 37998 53255
450 303 676 1318 2816 4286 8403 24155 35652 49967
500 286 639 1245 2660 4048 7938 22817 33677 47199
600 259 579 1128 2410 3668 7192 20674 30514 42765
700 238 533 1038 2217 3375 6617 19020 28072 39344
800 222 495 966 2062 3139 6156 17694 26116 36602
900 208 465 906 1935 2946 5776 16602 24504 34342
1000 196 439 856 1828 2782 5456 15682 23146 32439
1500 158 353 687 1468 2234 4381 12593 18587 26050
2000 135 302 588 1256 1912 3750 10778 15908 22295
Notes:
(1) Capacities are in 1000 Btu/hr.
(2) To convert to capacities at a gauge pressure of 5 psi setting with 10 percent (0.5 psig)
pressure drop, multiply values by 0.606. To convert to capacities at a gauge pressure of 15 psi
with 10 percent (1.5 psig) pressure drop, multiply values by 1.380.
Table 15.1(e)—see changes below
Table 15.1(e) Pipe Sizing Between Second-Stage Regulator and Appliance: Nominal Pipe Size,
Schedule 80
Undiluted
Gas:
Propane
Inlet Pressure: 11 in. w.c.
Pressure Drop: 0.5 in.
Specific Gravity: 1.502
INTENDED USE: Commented [BS2]: COMP: Have line go across entire
Pipe Sizing Between column
Single- or Second-
Stage (Low-
Pressure) Regulator
and Appliance.
1⁄2 3⁄4 1 1⁄4 1 1⁄2
Pipe Length in. in. 1 in. in. in. 2 in. 3 in. 3 1⁄2 in.
(ft) 0.546 0.742 0.957 1.278 1.5 1.939 2.9 3.364 4 in. 3.826
10 207 462 901 1924 2928 5741 16503 24357 34137
20 142 318 619 1322 2012 3946 11342 16740 23462
30 114 255 497 1062 1616 3169 9108 13443 18841
40 98 218 426 909 1383 2712 7795 11506 16125
50 87 193 377 805 1226 2404 6909 10197 14292
60 78 175 342 730 1111 2178 6260 9239 12949
80 67 150 292 625 951 1864 5358 7908 11083
100 59 133 259 553 842 1652 4748 7009 9823
125 53 118 230 491 747 1464 4208 6212 8706
150 48 107 208 444 677 1327 3813 5628 7888
200 41 91 178 380 579 1135 3264 4817 6751
250 36 81 158 337 513 1006 2892 4269 5983
300 33 73 143 305 465 912 2621 3868 5421
350 30 68 132 281 428 839 2411 3559 4987
400 28 63 122 261 398 780 2243 3311 4640
Note: Capacities are in 1000 Btu/hr.
11/1712015 National Fire Protection Association Report
Replace 15.1 (f) (h) and (k) with NFPA 54 Table 6.3(e)
Replace 15.1 (g) 0) and (I) with NFPA 54 Table 6.3(f)
Replace 15.1 (i) with NFPA 54 Table 6.3(g)
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Committee To provide consistency between the tables in NFPA 54 and NFPA 58 to avoid
Statement: confusion among users. The new table 15.1(n) is extracted from NFPA 54 with a
change to allow it to be used with inlet pressures of 5-10 psig instead of 5 psig.
NFPA 54 has the same table which is limited to 5 psig due to the scope of NFPA 54
covering a 5 psig maximum. This will result in a small over sizing of the tubing at
pressures over 5 psig.
Response
Message:
Table 15.1(o):
EHD: Equivalent hydraulic diameter. A measure of the relative hydraulic efficiency between
different tubing sizes. The greater the value of EHD, the greater the gas capacity of the tubing.
Notes:
(1) Table does not include effect of pressure drop across the line regulator. Where regulator loss
exceeds 1⁄2 psi (based on 13 in. w.c. outlet pressure), do not use this table. Consult with regulator
manufacturer for pressure drops and capacity factors. Pressure drops across a regulator may vary
with flow rate.
(2) CAUTION: Capacities shown in table may exceed maximum capacity for a selected
regulator. Consult with regulator or tubing manufacturer for guidance.
(3) Table includes losses for four 90 degree bends and two end fittings. Tubing runs with larger
number of bends and/or fittings shall be increased by an equivalent length of tubing according to
the following equation: L = 1.3n, where L is additional length (ft) of tubing and n is the number
of additional fittings and/or bends.
(4) All table entries are rounded to 3 significant digits.
[54:Table 6.3(i)]
Table 15.1(p):
(3) Replace Table 15.1(n) with Table 6.3 (m) from NFPA 54 ("PE(CTS) 11" we")
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Committee Statement
Committee This proposal was developed through a collaborative effort that included codes and
Statement: technical experts, manufacturers of propane autogas vehicles and equipment, and
members of the NPGA's Technology, Standards and Safety Committee. It reflects
the consensus of those companies and individuals as being a good first step
towards modernizing NFPA 58 in the area of propane engine fuel system
technologies. Accepting this proposal will allow the propane industry and authorities
having jurisdiction a tool to better apply NFPA 58 to modem engine fuel
technologies. Since this proposal was developed in response to Committee Input
No. 72, there is no need to go into detail regarding the justification for its submittal.
However there are some things that should be pointed out, namely: 1. A reference is
made to European standard ECE R67.01 in paragraph 12.4.1.6. This standard will
be studied to determine whether this standard can be referenced as an alternate to
the performance standards that are referenced in proposed Chapter 12 and
elsewhere in NFPA 58. It is expected that NPGA representatives will share the
results of this study with NFPA technical committee members at the August 4-5
meeting, if not before. 2. Correlative work with existing requirements in Chapters 6
and 11 is being addressed by others and those comments should be available to
technical committee members already for consideration at the August meeting. This
proposal will provide a solid foundation for the future work and development of
Chapter 12 as we strive to achieve the best possible fire safety requirements for
propane autogas fuel systems.
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12.2 Definitions.
Distribution Block. Connection point between the fuel line and fuel rail that may also include
connection for other devices such as but not limited to pressure or temperature sensing.
Direct Injection. A fuel injection system that delivers LP-Gas fuel through a fuel injector,
directly into the combustion chamber at high pressures, as opposed the injection of fuel into the
intake manifold air flow stream, up stream of and prior to the intake valve opening
Fuel Switching Device. A component used in some direct injections systems which is used to
switch between fuels of a bi-fuel powered vehicle.
Fuel rail. A manifold, pipe or duct that connects or retains the fuel injection devices for the
purpose of providing fuel supply to each injector.
Manifold ASME Container. An ASME container that consists of two or more interconnected
containers that are fabricated by the original manufacturer and that are connected by rigid,
integral, non-removable liquid and vapor passages and braced to form a single rigid unit, and
certified under ASME Section VIII as a single pressure vessel.
Power Supply Bushing. A sealed fitting that is installed in a container opening, or multi-function
valve body, that seals conductors passing from the inside to the outside of the pressure vessel for
the purposes of supplying electrical signals or operating voltage to electrical/electronic
components located inside the pressure containment area of an ASME container.
Pre-Start Purge Mode. A process whereby a mechanical or electro-mechanical device is used to
permit fuel flow through the engine supply and return lines, generally on fuel injection systems,
to ensure all vapor is removed from the lines prior to engine start.
Purge Valve. A mechanical or electro-mechanical device used to permit fuel flow through the
engine supply and return lines, generally on fuel injection systems, to ensure all vapor is
removed from the lines prior to engine start.
Uni-body. A vehicle with a frame and body which are constructed as a single assembly that does
not have a separate frame on which the body is mounted.
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12.3 Commissioning Vehicles.
12.3.2 The vehicle owner or operator shall be instructed in the basic operations of the LP-Gas
fuel system in order to safely operate an LP-Gas vehicle.
12.3.3 The basic operating and maintenance instructions for the vehicle shall be provided to the
user.
12.3.4 Each vehicle shall have an owner’s manual that provides the following minimal
information:
(1) A description of the specific fuel system installed, with component locations
indicated
(2) A description of the safety and emergency valves, and how to operate them
(3) Basic maintenance intervals in either months or miles; and
(4) Any specification special maintenance items (oils, lubricants, filters, etc.) unique
to the LP-Gas fuel system that are different from those defined in the
basic vehicle maintenance manual.
12.3.5 All LP-Gas fueled motor vehicles shall be identified by a weather-resistant diamond-
shaped label affixed to its exterior vertical, or near vertical, lower right rear surface, but not
attached to its bumper.
(1) The label shall be approximately 4-3/4 in (120 mm) wide by 3-1/4 in (83 mm)
high.
(2) The label marking shall consist of a border and the word “PROPANE” in letters
not less than 1 in (25 mm) in height, centered in the diamond, of silver or white
reflective luminous material on a black background.
A.12.4.1.6 ECE R67.01 is one of the most commonly used standards in the world for the
approval and installation of equipment used in LP-gas vehicle fuel systems. Where no
performance or specification standard is referenced in NFPA 58 for materials or equipment
within the scope of Chapter 12, NFPA 58 will defer to the requirements in R67.01. Compliance
to R67.01 is demonstrated by a homologation report issued by a country who is signatory to the
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UN standards. A list of these countries can be found in Annex 3 of this
document http://www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/main/wp29/wp29resolutions/ECE-
TRANS-WP29-78-r3e.pdf
The reason for specifying cold weather testing to at least -40F is due to the fact that R67.01
requires testing to only -20F, which is not sufficient to provide assurance of safe performance in
many locations in North America. The choice of -40F was based on the fact that other standards
already referenced in NFPA 58 use that temperature for cold weather testing.
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12.4.3.2 ASME container appurtenances shall be rated for the design pressure of the ASME
container, as indicated on the ASME data plate.
12.4.3.3 An ASME container shall be provided with one or more pressure relief valves of the
spring-loaded internal type with a start-to-discharge pressure setting of not less than the MAWP
of the ASME container.
12.4.3.4 Each ASME container shall be provided with a pressure relief valve complying with
Section 5.7.2.
12.4.3.5 Manifold ASME containers shall only require a single pressure relief valve,
communicating with the vapor space of the container.
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12.4.7.3 ASME containers shall be filled in compliance with 11.5.
12.4.7.4 Where the overfilling prevention device is used as the primary means to fill the ASME
container, the fixed maximum liquid level gauge or other approved means shall be used at least
once annually to verify the operation of the overfilling prevention device:
(1) If the container is found to be overfilled during the test, corrective action shall be taken.
(2) The result of the verification attempt shall be documented.
(3) A label shall be affixed to the container near the fill point indicating the date of the next
required verification test.
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A.12.4.9.5 Pressure relief may be provided using either an internal relief device that returns
liquid to the container, or a hydrostatic relief device that is piped away from the engine
compartment and any sources of ignition.
12.4.9.6 Fuel switching devices used on bi-fuel vehicles shall be designed to prevent the
unintended migration of either fuel into the container or piping system of the other fuel.
12.4.9.7 Fuel switching devices shall be marked with a MAWP that is equal to or greater than
that of the systems they are installed in.
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(1) Be made of either steel, brass or anodized aluminum, and rated for the service pressure of
the fuel line;
(2) Use a flare, tapered pipe, compression fitting, or other approved fitting to connect the
LP-Gas fuel line fitting to the bulkhead fitting.
12.4.11.7 The use of quick-connect fittings rated by the manufacturer for the specific application
shall be permitted.
12.4.11.8 The separation and disconnection of quick-connect fittings shall require either two
separate actions, a special removal tool, or another means to prevent unintended separation.
12.4.11.9 Bulkhead fittings for protecting penetrations of piping or tubing shall be steel or brass.
12.4.11.10 Nesting of bushings shall be prohibited.
12.4.11.11 A pipe fitting containing both left-hand and right-hand threads shall not be used.
12.4.11.12 A bend in piping or tubing shall be as follows:
(1) The minimum bend radius shall be equal to or greater than that recommended by the fuel
line manufacturer.
(2) All bends shall be made with tooling recommended by the fuel line manufacturer.
12.4.12 Hose.
12.4.12.1 Hose and hose fittings used for vapor service shall be constructed of a material
resistant to the action of LP-Gas.
12.4.12.2 Hose and hose fitting shall be rated by the manufacturer of the hose for the service,
with a minimum pressure rating of the greater between 350 psig (2.4 Mpag) or the rated pressure
of the system.
12.4.12.3 Hose and hose fittings in liquid service shall comply with UL 21 or CSA CAN/CGA-
8.1 Type III.
12.4.12.4 Hose and hose fittings in liquid service shall be of either stainless-steel or synthetically
reinforced and recommended for the intended use.
12.4.12.5 Hose shall be marked with the following information:
(1) The manufacturer’s name
(2) The model number
(3) The minimum pressure rating /burst pressure (at least Five times Minimum Pressure
Rating)
(4) “LP-Gas”
12.4.12.6 Hose assemblies shall be assembled and tested in accordance with the hose
manufacturer’s recommendations.
12.4.12.7 Minimum test pressures for assemblies shall be 120% of the rated working pressure.
12.4.12.8 Bends in installed sections of hose shall be equal to or greater than the minimum bend
radius recommended by the manufacturer.
12.4.12.9 Hose sections shall be secured to minimize chaffing, rubbing or abrasion.
12.4.12.10* The temperature of hose shall not exceed its maximum rated temperature.
A.12.4.12.10 Methods of protecting hoses from excessive temperature include the use of
radiation shields or insulation.
12.4.12.11 Sections of hose that have been kinked or bent beyond their minimum bend radius or
otherwise weakened shall be replaced prior to placing the vehicle into service.
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12.4.13.1 Every vaporizer and pressure regulator shall be of sufficient size to provide the
required flow and system-required regulated outlet pressure of LP-Gas, at the rated extremes of
inlet pressures.
12.4.13.2 Carburetors, carburetor mixers, and carburetor adapters shall be recommended for the
application by the manufacturer of the equipment.
12.4.13.3 Vaporizers, pressure regulators, carburetors, carburetor mixers, and carburetor adapters
shall not be fabricated or modified by an installer.
12.4.13.4 Vaporizers, pressure regulators and carburetors shall be listed to UL 1337.
12.4.14 Wiring.
12.4.14.1* Electrical wiring and connectors used on vehicles shall be recommended by the
manufacturer for automotive applications.
A.12.4.14.1 The use of “wire nuts” and other connectors not intended for automotive use should
not be used.
12.4.14.2 All wiring shall be of the stranded type.
12.4.14.3 All wiring shall have insulation recommended by the manufacturer for automotive use
equal to or greater than the wire type used in the wiring of the vehicle and shall be of a gauge
size sufficient for the rated current of the circuit in maximum amperes of normal operational
power levels.
12.4.14.4 The use of soldered connections that are sealed with automotive shrink insulation shall
be permitted.
12.4.14.5 Electrical power supply bushings installed within the container, and used for
conducting electricity into the container for any purpose shall be made from a material
compatible with LP-Gas, in accordance with the following:
(1) The power supply bushing shall be rated to operate at a pressure of not less than 1.5
times the MAWP of the container.
(2) The power supply bushing shall be designed in such a way that it is installed from the
inside of the container or the appurtenance, and shall not be capable of blowing out in the
event of a failure of the retaining fixtures.
(3) The power supply bushing shall have mating electrical connectors, of an automotive
grade and such connections shall permit disconnection for service and inspection without
removing the fitting or damaging the wiring harness.
(4) The power supply bushing conductors shall be compatible with LP-Gas and resistant to
chemical or electrolysis corrosion.
(5) Shall be approved in accordance with ECE R67.01, Annex 3.
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12.5.1.2 Where an ASME container is being repaired, removed or scrapped, its liquid contents
shall be removed by flaring or by transfer to another ASME container, or the gas shall be vented
in accordance with Section 7.3.
12.5.1.3 Before installing any replacement part of a LP-Gas fuel system, the installer shall
ensure that the replacement part is at least the equivalent of the original part with respect to its
performance and safety attributes, and is compatible with and recommended by the original
equipment or system manufacturer.
12.5.1.4 Smoking, welding, torch cutting, grinding or any other source of ignition shall not be
permitted in the area where work is being done on piping, tubing, or equipment that contains or
has contained LP-Gas unless the piping, tubing, or equipment has been purged of LP-Gas.
12.5.1.5 Before returning an ASME container purged of LP-Gas back into service, the ASME
container and all connecting components and fuel lines shall be tested by pressurizing the ASME
container and connecting components to 140 psig using LP-Gas, air or an inert gas and the
system shall not experience a loss of pressure for a minimum time of 10 minutes.
12.5.1.6 Fuel shall not be released from a system in an enclosed area, or within 35 feet of any
potential ignition source.
12.5.1.7 Where a vehicle is operated using LP-Gas only, existing gasoline or diesel tanks that are
installed shall have their fill connections removed or plugged after purging of any residual fuel
or vapors.
12.5.1.8 The LP-Gas supply for any LP-Gas fuel system shall be from an ASME container
permanently mounted on the motor vehicle.
12.5.1.9 An ASME container providing engine fuel for the vehicle shall not be mounted on a
trailer or an articulated portion of a vehicle separate from the portion where the engine is
mounted.
12.5.1.10 The use of a cargo tank for supplying fuel to an engine powering a cargo tank LP-Gas
motor vehicle shall be permitted when the cargo tank is mounted on the same frame as the
engine and the installation is compatible with the specific engine system installed.
12.5.1.11 The source of combustion air for a LP-Gas -fueled engine shall be isolated from the
ventilating or air-conditioning system of the vehicle.
12.5.1.12 Any part of the LP-Gas fuel system equipment that utilizes a drain valve or plug shall
have the drain valve or plug located in the lowest possible position unless the equipment is
removable for maintenance purposes.
12.5.1.13 Equipment service drains or pressure taps shall be capable of attaching a hose or tube
for the remote discharge.
12.5.1.14 Every ASME container fitting shall be checked with a liquid leak detector solution or
device after the equipment is connected, activated and pressurized.
12.5.1.15 When a vehicle is involved in an accident or fire, the system shall be inspected and
tested prior to being put back into service.
12.5.2 Training Requirements.
12.5.2.1* Each person engaged in installing or maintaining a LP-Gas engine fuel system shall be
trained as follows:
(A) In accordance with the requirements of 4.4;
(B) General training on the nature of LP-Gas engine fuel systems and their components;
(C) Training on the specific LP-Gas fuel system to be installed or maintained
(D) All training shall be documented
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A.12.5.2.1 Training of technicians is needed on three levels. The first level is to train the
technician in the proper handling and emergency response procedures associated with LP-
Gas as required by Section 4.4.1. The next level of training would be to ensure that the
technician is familiar with and can identify the basic components of all LP-Gas engine fuel
systems. The third level would be to qualify the individual to install the specific fuel delivery
system. This third level of training typically relies upon an organized and managed program
developed and administered by the manufacturer or distributor of the system brand or
technology being installed. This training typically addresses the installation, diagnosis,
maintenance and repair of the specific system.
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(9) Filling connections and related fittings shall not be installed in a manner that will
necessitate access for filling from the passenger compartment, or any contiguous portion
of the vehicle where the potential for vapors to migrate into the passenger compartment is
possible.
(10)ASME containers and their means of attachment shall be protected from corrosion and
abrasion.
12.5.5 ASME containers located within vehicles. ASME containers located within an enclosed
space of a vehicle shall be installed in accordance with either (A) or (B):
(1)*The ASME container and its appurtenances shall be installed in an enclosure that
is securely mounted to the vehicle.
(a)The enclosure shall be gastight with respect to driver or passenger
compartments and to any space containing radio transmitters or other spark-
producing equipment.
(b)The enclosure shall be vented to the outside of the vehicle.
A.12.5.5(1) The luggage compartment (trunk) of a vehicle can constitute such an
enclosure, provided that it meets all of the requirements in (1). Any sealant used
should provide the following performance attributes:
Non-shrinking and non-swelling;
Resistant to damage by LP-Gas, road salt, and vehicle vibration; and
Effective for use from – 40°F (–40°C) to 135°F (55°C).
Shall not deteriorate over the useful life of the vehicle
12.5.6 Multiple ASME Containers. Multiple ASME container installations shall be installed in
accordance with 12.5.4, 12.5.5 and the following:
(1)Multiple ASME containers shall either have separate fill connections and the system shall
be designed to prevent the overfilling or over-pressurization of any of the containers
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(2)Where individual ASME containers are interconnected by piping, tubing, or hoses each
liquid withdrawal line shall be equipped with a back check valve or an equivalent means
of preventing unintended transfer between containers .
(3)Multiple ASME containers installed with separate fill connections located on separate
sides of the vehicle, or that are separated by a distance greater than 3 ft., shall each have
all applicable safety markings and labels on the containers and at each fill connection.
12.5.7 ASME Container Road Clearances. Where an LP-Gas container is substituted for the
fuel container installed by the original manufacturer of the vehicle, the LP-Gas container either
shall fit within the space in which the original fuel container was installed or shall comply
with either (1) or (2).
(1) Containers installed between axles shall not be lower than the lowest point forward of the
container on the following points:
(a) Lowest structural component of the body as illustrated in
Figure 12.5.7
(b) Lowest structural component of the frame or subframe
(c) Lowest point on the engine
(d) Lowest point of the transmission (including the clutch
housing or torque converter housing, as applicable)
(2) Containers installed behind the rear axle and extending below the frame shall not be
lower than the lowest of the following points and surfaces:
(a) Containers shall not be lower than the lowest point of a structural component of the
body, engine, and transmission (including clutch housing or torque converter housing, as
applicable) forward of the container.
(b) Containers shall not be lower than lines extending rearward from each wheel at the
point where the wheels contact the ground directly below the center of the axle to the
lowest and most rearward structural interference, as illustrated in Part 2 of Figure 12.5.7.
This determination shall be made when the vehicle is loaded to its gross vehicle weighted
rating (GVWR) of the vehicle.
Figure 12.5.7
12.5.8 ASME Container Protection. ASME containers shall comply with the following:
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(1) ASME containers shall be located to minimize the possibility of damage due to external
forces.
(2) If mounted within 10 in. (254 mm) of the engine or the exhaust system, not including the
catalytic converter, ASME containers shall be protected with a radiation heat shield
located not less than 1 in. (25 mm) from the ASME container.
(a) The radiation heat shield shall not be attached to the exhaust system.
(b) The radiation heat shield is permitted to be a reflective metal, or another
reflective/insulating material approved by the AHJ.
(c) Adhesive heat shielding/radiant barriers that are recommended by the
manufacturer for automotive application shall be permitted to be affixed to the
ASME container.
(3)Modifications of spare tire wells to accommodate the installation of ASME containers
shall be permitted provided the space between the opening created in the tire well, and
the surface of the ASME container, is sealed to prevent the infiltration of water and road
debris.
(4)ASME containers shall not be mounted within 8 in (203 mm) of a catalytic converter
unless thermal protection is provided to maintain the pressure in the container below the
MAWP.
(5)ASME containers shall not project beyond the side of the vehicle as shown in “plan view.”
(6)No part of an ASME containers shall located above the highest point of the vehicle as
received from the manufacturer or ahead of the front axle of a self-propelled vehicle;
(7)ASME containers located behind the rear axle of a uni-body passenger bus shall comply
with all of the following:
(a) By the vehicle bumper reinforced by the addition of two 2 × 2 × 0.25 in
(50 × 50 × 6.4 mm) hollow square steel members (or equivalent) mounted to the
existing bumper’s mounting points;
(b) ASME container mounted behind the rear axle and under the vehicle shall be located
a follows:
i. A minimum of 4 in. (100 mm) from the differential housing
ii. Not less than 12 in. (305 mm) from the rearmost point of the bumper to
the ASME container, ASME container valve(s), or any ASME container
appurtenance, or the bumper shall be reinforced; and
iii. As high as practical without modifying the vehicle structure (see Figure X.3,
use Figure 11.8.3.4 or new drawings.) and in accordance with section
12.5.7.
12.5.9 Protection for Appurtenances and Remote Fill Connections and Fittings. All valves,
connections, and gauging devices on an ASME container shall be protected from external
damage in accordance with the following:
(1) All openings greater than a No. 54 orifice shall be protected by an excess flow valve,
double back check valve, or shall be protected from shearing forces by recess or
guarding.
(2) Parts of the vehicle are permitted to provide protection to valves and fittings.
(3) Filling and gauging fittings in a location remote from the ASME container shall be
protected from physical damage by one of the following means:
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(a) In a metal enclosure, or using another material that provides an equivalent level
of protection to that provided for the fuel receptacle, that is permanently mounted
to the vehicle and does not protrude outside the vehicle’s body; or
(b) Located in such a way that the rear bumper or another part of the vehicle will
provide protection.
(c) The attachment of the protective devices shall be designed and installed to fail
prior to the failure of the container.
(d) Remote valves and fittings shall not be mounted in or on the bumpers of a vehicle,
or beyond the portion of the body from which the bumper protrudes.
12.5.10 Valves and appurtenances shall either be of corrosion-resistant material or shall be
coated or protected to minimize exterior corrosion.
12.5.11 Pressure Relief and Hydrostatic Pressure Control. Pressure Relief Valves and
hydrostatic relief valves shall be installed in accordance with the following:
(1) Pressure relief valves shall be installed to communicate with the vapor space of the
ASME container.
(2) The system shall be designed to ensure that during normal operation or refueling the
pressure relief valve will not open.
(3) Shutoff valves or other equipment shall not be installed between the pressure
relief valves and the opening in the ASME container.
(4) Where liquefied LP-Gas is isolated in piping or between shutoff valves, hydrostatic
pressure shall be controlled by one of the following methods:
(a) A back check valve or internal relief valve that is installed in such a manner as to
relieve any increase in pressure in the isolated portion of the fuel lines, either into
the container, or into another portion of the system that is protected by a
hydrostatic relief valve.
(b) A hydrostatic relief valve complying with Section 5.13
(c) Any method recommended by the manufacturer
(d) Any other approved method
(5) The discharge of the hydrostatic relief valve shall be located outside the engine
compartment and in accordance with subsection 12.5.11
(6) The discharge of an installed hydrostatic relief valve underneath the vehicle shall be
directed downward and away from any potential ignitions source, the catalytic converter
or any portion of the exhaust system.
12.5.12 Pressure Relief Valve Discharge System .
The pressure relief valve discharge from an ASME container shall be in accordance with
the following:
(1) It shall be sized for the required flow rate of all relief valves attached to it
(2) It shall be directed upward or downward within 45 degrees of vertical
(3) It shall not directly impinge on the ASME container(s), the exhaust system, or any
other part of the vehicle
(4) It shall not be directed into the interior of the vehicle
(5) Where the pressure relief valve discharge is piped away, the pipe away system
shall have a breakaway adapter in accordance with the following:
(a) The breakaway adapter shall have a melting point greater than the melting point
of the hose or conduit connected to it for the purpose of re-directing discharged
pressure.
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(b) The adapter either shall be an integral part of the pressure relief valve or shall be
a separate adapter attached directly to the pressure relief valve.
(c) The pipe-away system shall be permitted to utilize a length of nonmetallic hose
or conduit with a melting point less than the pipe-away adaptor connected to the
pressure relief valve. The hose or conduit is permitted to have metallic
reinforcement.
(d) The nonmetallic hose shall be as short as practical and shall be able to withstand
the downstream pressure from the pressure relief valve in the full open position,
and the hose shall be fabricated of materials resistant to the action of LP-Gas.
(e) Where hose is used to pipe away the pressure relief valve discharge on ASME
containers installed on the outside of the vehicle, the breakaway adapter and any
attached fitting shall deflect the pressure relief valve discharge upward or
downward within 45 degrees of vertical and shall meet the other requirements of
11.8.5.1 without the hose attached and if an additional fitting is necessary to
meet this requirement, it shall have a melting point not less than that of the pipe-
away adaptor connected to the pressure relief valve, or the discharge
hose/conduit.
(f) The pipe-away system shall have a protective cover to minimize the possibility of
the entrance of water or dirt into either the pressure relief valve or its discharge
system, and the cover shall not restrict the flow.
(g) No portion of the system shall have an internal diameter less than the minimum
internal diameter of the recommended breakaway adapter.
(h) The breakaway adapter either shall be threaded for direct connection to the
pressure relief valve and shall not interfere with the operation of the pressure
relief valve, or it shall be an integral part of the pressure relief valve and shall
break away without impairing the function of the pressure relief valve.
(i) The pipe-away system connections shall be mechanically secured and shall not
depend on adhesives or sealing compounds and shall not be routed between a
bumper system and the vehicle body.
(j) Where a pipe-away system is not required, the pressure relief valve shall have a
protective cap or cover to protect it from water or debris.
12.5.13 Shutoff Valves. ASME container shutoff valves shall be installed in accordance with the
following:
(1)A manual shutoff valve on an ASME container shall be accessible.
(2)Where the manual shutoff valve is not visible from the outside of the vehicle, a label
visible with an arrow pointing to the area of the valve, and marked “Shutoff Valve” shall
be affixed.
(3)An electrically operated solenoid valve shall be installed in the ASME container
(4)All safety controls for the original fuel pump, including but not limited to crash sensors,
inertia switches, run dry protection, or other safety function shall be retained and fully
functional when operating the LP-Gas shutoff valve for bi-fuel systems.
12.5.14 Fuel Pumps. Fuel pumps shall comply with the following:
(1) ASME containers with the fuel pump installed inside shall be identified by the words
“Fuel Pump Inside”.
(2) The electrical power to a fuel pump shall be switched off in the event of a crash that
actuates a crash sensor, if so equipped.
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(3) The fuel pump shall be permitted to run for a pre-determined amount of time when the
ignition switch is turned to the “engine on” position before the electric starter motor is
engaged, or as required by specific system start protocols that utilize other systems to
activate the fuel pump.
(4) All safety controls for the fuel pump, including but not limited to crash sensors, inertia
switches, run dry protection, or other safety function, shall be retained and fully
functional when operating the fuel pump, for either bi-fuel or mono-fuel systems.
(5) All fuel pump power circuits shall be fuse protected.
(6) To prevent over pressurization, fuel pump discharge piping shall have a means of
relieving pressure inside the ASME container in the event of a restriction or blockage in
the discharge piping.
(7) Internal fuel pump wiring shall have an insulation material, such as THHN or TFFN that
is compatible with LP-Gas.
(8) Internal fuel pump wiring connectors shall be automotive grade
(9) Internal fuel pump wiring shall be secured in a manner that prevents damage from
vibration, chaffing or abrasion.
12.6 Electrical Installation.
12.6.1 The electrical components of the LP-Gas fuel system shall be protected against
overloads, with at least one separate fuse that is sized for the rated load of the system provided.
12.6.2 The fuse shall be installed where it can be reached without the use of tools, and its
location shall be marked in the operator’s manual.
12.6.3 Electrical cables shall be protected from damage due to flexing, abrasion and other
stresses, and they shall be secured to the vehicle chassis or other vehicle structure
12.6.4 Installed sections of wire(s) shall be enclosed in a protected sheath of materials
recommended by the manufacturer for that application.
12.6.5 The use of electrical tape to insulate bare wire connections shall not be permitted.
12.6.6 Installed sections of wiring shall be protected from abrasion, chaffing , snags or external
forces.
12.6.7 Electrical connections shall be sized for the rated load and shall be made with sealed
connections having positive locking mechanisms.
12.6.8 All wiring connections shall either use connectors recommended by the manufacturer or
be soldered and the connection protected by heavy wall shrink insulation or other approved
insulation.
12.6.9* Electrical connections made inside of an ASME container, or in any portion of the
system which contains fuel, shall be made with connectors of automotive grade using positive
locking mechanisms.
A.12.6.9 Soldered connections using sealed heat shrink are considered automotive grade
connections. This provision will help prevent cross connections that could create a source of
ignition.
12.6.10 All wiring bundles shall be protected with loom or another automotive grade protective
cover.
12.6.11 Where wiring bundles will be exposed to radiant heat from the engine or exhaust
components, protection from overheating shall be provided.
12.7 Installation of Pipe, Tubing and Hose.
12.7.1 The number of joints shall be kept to a minimum.
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12.7.2 Piping and fittings shall be cleaned and free from cutting burrs, threading burrs, scale, and
defects.
12.7.3 The ends of all piping shall be reamed.
12.7.4* Where applicable, all threaded connections shall be tightened to the torque specification
of the fitting or fuel system manufacturer’s specifications.
A.12.7.4 Threaded connections should not be over tightened to the extent that could break or
weaken the structural integrity of the fitting or the component into which it is threaded.
12.7.5 LP-Gas piping, tubing and hose shall be secured to the vehicle at intervals not greater than
24 inches by corrosion-resistant hose/tubing mounting fixtures that are constructed of a material
rated for the application.
12.7.6 Any pipe, tubing or hose connection not in use shall be capped or plugged.
12.7.7 Immediately before sheathed copper tubing enters either a sealed compartment or an
engine compartment, a 1 in. (25 mm) piece of sheathing shall be removed to provide ventilation
around the copper tubing.
12.7.9 All pipe and tubing joints and hose connections shall be accessible for service and
inspection after installation.
12.7.10 A connection requiring service, maintenance or inspection shall be accessible.
12.7.11 Where a thread sealant is used, it shall be certified in accordance with CAN/ULC-S642
and shall be applied to the male threads of a metal pipe.
12.7.12 All piping and tubing fittings shall be inspected or tested to assure that they are correctly
installed.
12.7.13 Piping and tubing shall not be installed between vehicle members or components that
exhibit motion relative to each other.
12.7.14 Components shall be installed in a manner that prevents damage due to vibration, flex or
contact with other components of the vehicle.
12.7.15 LP-Gas piping, tubing, or hose shall not traverse separate vehicle units.
12.7.16 Defects in LP-Gas piping or tubing that can affect its performance shall not be repaired
and the piping or tubing shall be removed from service.
12.7.17 Tubing or hose shall be cut cleanly and square, using a manufacturer recommended tool
and joints made using only manufacturer recommended fittings.
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(a) The heat shield shall be noncombustible material and shall extend for a minimum
distance of 10 in. (250mm) beyond either edge of the heat generating area from which it
is being shielded.
(b) The heat shield shall not be attached to or in contact with any portion of the exhaust
system.
(c) As an alternative to (1) above, the use of an insulated or radiant barrier sleeve shall be
permitted to be extended to a point no less than 8 in. (203mm) in each direction from the
exposure area of the hose/tubing.
12.9 Testing of Piping, Tubing, Hose, and Fittings.
12.9.1 Prior to installation on the vehicle, all piping, tubing and hose assemblies in the fuel
system shall be pressure tested to a minimum 120% of the design operating pressure of the
system using air or an inert gas.
12.9.2 After installation or prior to returning to service, the fuel system shall be proven to be free
of leaks at the operating pressure of the system.
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12.12.5 A LP-Gas supply line to the vaporizer/pressure regulator shall be equipped with a fuel
lock-off valve that prevents the flow of LP-Gas to the carburetor or fuel injector when the
ignition switch is turned off or when the engine is not running.
12.12.6 The fuel lockoff valve shall be installed at the container opening or in accordance with
the following:
(1) On carbureted systems, the lock-off valve shall be located upstream of
primary pressure regulator or vaporizer.
(2) On LP-Gas fuel injection systems, the lock-off valve shall be located upstream of the LP-
Gas injection device provided as part of the LP-Gas fuel system.
(3) The lock-off valve shall be controlled by one or more of the following:
(a) Vacuum from the engine;
(b) Oil pressure from the engine;
(c) An electrical circuit that closes the valve whenever the engine is not running,
unless it is in a pre-start purge mode.
12.12.7 An atmospheric-type regulator (zero governor) is not permitted to be used as a safety
lock-off valve.
12.13 Fuel Lock-Offs.
12.13.1 A bi-fuel system shall prevent the unintended flow of either fuel.
12.13.2 Where a lock-off valve is added between the fuel pump for the alternate fuel and the
engine, the connection between the fuel pump and the lock-off valve shall be made with tubing
or with hose and fittings equivalent to those used on the outlet of the fuel pump by the original
manufacturer of the vehicle.
12.13.3 Fuel lock-offs shall be mounted in accordance with manufacturer’s recommendations
and shall be installed to prevent movement or damage from vibration.
12.13.4 The LP-Gas fuel lock-off shall be installed so that it prevents the uncontrolled flow of
fuel to the engine in the event of an accident, or at any time the key is in the “run” position, but
the engine is not running or is in a “start-purge” mode.
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ANNEXES
In accordance with section 12.4.2.4, all containers that have had their interiors exposed to the
atmosphere (that would occur during a service valve change), shall be purged of air and other
contaminants. The following methods have been found to be effective.
1. Use a hose suitable for vacuum service to connect a compressor to the ASME container.
2. Ensure that any protective caps for appurtenances are in place and tightened.
3. Open the service valve and run the compressor to reduce the pressure in the ASME
container to 26 in. mercury vacuum.
4. Close the service valve and disconnect the compressor.
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See attached file for alterations to Chapters 3, 5, 6, and 9 put forward by the Skid Tank
Task Group.
Supplemental Information
Committee Statement
Committee Definitions and new requirements are established for porta-pac's and portable
Statement: storage containers. These changes recognize the industry equipment and practices
regarding portable storage containers and skid tanks.
Response
Message:
3.3.56* Portable Storage Container. A storage container that is designed and constructed to
be moved over a highway from one usage location to another. not used to transport LP-Gas.
3.3.56.1 Porta-pac. An ASME container installed on wheels with retractable landing gear
that is used to store LP-Gas in temporary installations and not used to transport LP-Gas.
3.3.56.2 Moveable Fuel Storage Tenders. A non-DOT specification cargo tank that is
used exclusively for agricultural purposes and is commonly known as a “farm cart.”
3.3.70 Skid Tank. A container that is designed and fabricated with permanently
mounted skids or runners that is not designed to transport LP-Gas.
A.3.3.56 Portable Storage Container. Portable storage containers have legs or other supports
attached, or are mounted on running gear (such as trailer or semitrailer chassis), with suitable
supports that can be of the fold-down type. Such supports allow the containers to be placed on
a reasonably firm and level surface. For large-volume, limited-duration product usage (such as
at construction sites normally used for 12 months or less), portable storage containers serve as
permanently installed stationary containers.
Skid tanks shall have a secure steel frame to allow transportation of the skid tank
when not filled with LP-Gas.
5.2.9 Porta-Pacs.
5.2.7.2 5.2.9.1 The legs or supports, or the lugs for the attachment of legs or
supports, shall be secured to the container in accordance with the ASME code
under which the container was designed and built.
(B) 5.2.9.2 The ASME container shall be attached to either:
5.2.10.1 The legs or supports, or the lugs for the attachment of legs or supports, shall
be secured to the container in accordance with the ASME code under which the
container was designed and built.
5.2.10.2 The attachment of a container to either a trailer or semitrailer running gear, or
the attachments to the container to make it a vehicle, so that the unit can be moved
by a conventional over-the-road tractor, shall comply with the DOT requirements for
cargo tank service.
5.6.10.2 5.2.7.3 Portable tank design and construction of a full framework, skids,
or lugs for the attachment of skids, and protection of fittings shall be in accordance
with DOT portable tank specifications.The bottom of the skids shall be not less
than 2 in. (51 mm) or more than 12 in. (300 mm) below the outside bottom of the
tank shell.
3.3.56* Portable Storage Container. A storage container that is designed and constructed to
be moved over a highway from one usage location to another. not used to transport LP-Gas.
3.3.56.1 Porta-pac. An ASME container installed on wheels with retractable landing gear
that is used to store LP-Gas in temporary installations and not used to transport LP-Gas.
(PC-62)
3.3.56.2 Moveable Fuel Storage Tenders. A non-DOT specification cargo tank that is
used exclusively for agricultural purposes and is commonly known as a “farm cart.”
3.3.70 Skid Tank. A container that is designed and fabricated with permanently
mounted skids or runners and runners that is not designed to transport LP-Gas. [PC-7]
A.3.3.56 Portable Storage Container. Portable storage containers have legs or other supports
attached or are mounted on running gear (such as trailer or semitrailer chassis), with suitable
supports that can be of the fold-down type. Such supports allow the containers to be placed on
a reasonably firm and level surface. For large-volume, limited-duration product usage (such as
at construction sites normally used for 12 months or less), portable storage containers serve as
permanently installed stationary containers.
Skid tanks shall have a secure steel frame to allow transportation of the skid tank
when not filled with LP-Gas.
5.2.9 Porta-Pacs.
5.2.7.2 (A) 5.2.9.1 The legs or supports, or the lugs for the attachment of legs or
supports, shall be secured to the container in accordance with the ASME code
under which the container was designed and built.
(B) 5.2.9.2 The ASME container shall be attached to either:
9.7.2.4 Where vehicles carrying portable containers or cargo tank vehicles of 3500 gal (13 m3)
water capacity or less are parked on streets adjacent to the driver’s residence in uncongested
residential areas, the parking locations shall be at least 50 ft (15 m) from a building used for
assembly, institutional, or multiple residential occupancy. (No Changes.)
Committee Statement
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The following revisions will be made in Chapters 5, 6, and 7 according to the attached
word document from the ASME Tanks not in Use Task Group.
Supplemental Information
Committee Statement
5.3 Reserved.
(Yes, it already exists, but this is a new one to force subsequent sections back to keep chapter 5 and 6
alignment. Public Input No. 254-NFPA 58-2014 [ New Section after 5.16 ])
6.1 Scope.
6.1.1* Application. This chapter applies to the following:
(1) Location and field installation of LP-Gas systems that use components, subassemblies, container
assemblies, and container systems that are fabricated in accordance with Chapter 5
(2) Location of containers and liquid transfer systems
(3) Installation of container appurtenances and regulators
(4) Installation of piping (including flexible connectors and hose), hydrostatic relief valves, and piping
service limitations
(5) Installation of equipment
(6) Testing of piping systems
(7) Location of containers not connected for use
Committee Statement
Committee Statement
Committee The proposed annex A text for Table 15.1 (o) explains the conservative nature of
Statement: this table, and that it is not significant for propane service to most homes. It also
provides information on other sources of CSST sizing information. SL Note: "CSST
5-10 psi table" if numbering changes.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 57-NFPA 58-2015 [New Section after A.14.3]
(1) Frozen ground containers and underground storage in caverns, including associated
piping and appurtenances used for the storage of LP-Gas
(2) Natural gas processing plants, refineries, and petrochemical plants
(3) LP-Gas at utility gas plants (including refrigerated storage) (see NFPA 59)
(4) * Chemical plants where specific approval of construction and installation plans is
obtained from the authority having jurisdiction
(5) * LP-Gas used with oxygen
(6) * The portions of LP-Gas systems covered by NFPA 54 (ANSI Z223.1};-NatieRa.'
F1:1e1' Gas Ceee, where NFPA 54 (ANSI Z223.1) is adopted, used, or enforced
(7) Transportation by air (iAeh:JeliA~ 1:1se iA lolet air ealleeAs), rail, or water under the
jurisdiction of the DOT
(8) * Marine fire protection
(9) Refrigeration cycle equipment and LP-Gas used as a refrigerant in a closed cycle
(10) The manufacturing requirements for recreational vehicle LP-Gas systems that are
addressed by NFPA 1192
(11) Propane vehicle fuel dispensers located at multiple fuel refueling stations (see
NFPA 30A)
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Committee Statement
Committee Statement: For Item 7: To clarify the conflict between transportation and use.
Response Message:
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Committee Statement
Committee The committee has directed NFPA staff to update all reference editions to the
Statement: most current edition upon publication of the document.
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Committee Statement
Committee The most recent edition of ASTM 02513 is corrected, and a new ASTM standard
Statament: for polyamiide is added. Requirements for polyamide are needed because it is used
in risers. This reflects that the current edition of ASTM 02513 had deleted all
polyamide. This has been confirmed by a plastics piping consultant. The latest
edition of ASTM E119 has been included. The committee requests staff to ensure
the most recent edition of all ASTM documents to be utilized.
Response
Message:
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Committee Statement
Committee Statement: Accuracy of document names and editions have been updated.
Response Message:
Public Comment No. 47-NFPA 58-2015 [Section No. 2.3.51
[i.] Second Revision No. 24-NFPA 58-2015 [Sections 2.3.6, 2.3.7, 2.3.8,
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2.3.9, 2.3.1 0 ]
2.3.11 UL Publications.
Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096.
UL 21, Standard for LP-Gas Hose, 2QQ:7, FeVisea 2010 2014.
UL 125, Standard for Flow Control Valves for Anhydrous Ammonia and LP-Gas (Other
than Safety Relief), 2014.
~UL 132, Standard for Safety Relief Valves for Anhydrous Ammonia and LP-Gas, :2997;
FetliSeB 2019 2015.
~ UL 144, Standard for LP-Gas Regulators, 2012,Fetlisea 2014 .
UL 147A, Standard for Nonrefillable (Disposable) Type Fuel Gas Cylinder Assemblies,
2005, revisea 201 a .
UL 1478, Standard for Nonrefillable (Disposable) Type Metal Container Assemblies for
Butane, 2005, revised 2013.
UL 263, Standard for Fire Tests of Building Construction and Materials, ~ 2011 .
UL 5148, Standard for Conduit, Tubing, and Cable Fittings, 2012.
UL 567, Standard for Emergency Breakaway Fittings, Swivel Connectors, and Pipe-
Connection Fittings for Petroleum Products and LP-Gas. ~22M.
U L 569, Standard for Pigtails and Flexible Hose Connectors for LP-Gas, 2013.
UL 651, Standard for Schedule 40, 80, Type EB and A Rigid PVC Conduit and Fittings,
2011, FBvisea 2014 .
UL 1337. Outline of Investigation for LP-Gas. Natural Gas. and Manufactured Gas
Devices for Enaine Fuel Svstems. 2013.
UL 1660, StandardforUquid-Tight Flexible Nonmetallic Conduit, 2Q04, revisea
.29432014 I
Title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, Parts 171-180, 393, 396, and 397.
Interstate Commerce Commission (ICC), Rules for Construction of Unfired Pressure
VesselS; Y.S. DefJaFtFReRt of TFaRSfJeFtatieR, ¥Jast:liRgteR, DC.
2.3.13 ULC Publications.
ULC. 171 Nepean Street. Suite 400. Ottawa. ON K2P 084.
CAN/ULC S642. Standard for Compounds and Taoes for Threaded Pipe Joints.
2QQL
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Committee Statement
Committee The committee has directed NFPA staff to update all reference editions to the
Statement: most current edition upon publication of the document.
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AITleFieaR Seeiely fer TestiR€J aRa MateFials.
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Submitter Information Verification
Committee Statement
Committee The definition of ASTM is not needed and should be deleted because ASTM is the
Statement: name of the society, not the American Society of Testing and Materials. This is
clear when visiting the ASTM web site, where the only name of the organization is
ASTM.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 37-NFPA 58-2015 [Section No. 3.3.91
[i.] Second Revision No. 47-NFPA 58-2015 [ Section No. 3.3.18 [Excluding
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rI A portable container elesi€JAOelte with a marked water capacity of 1000 lb (454 kg) or less
that is designed to transport and store LP-Gas.
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Committee Statement
Committee Not all portable containers are cylinders. There are DOT portable tanks and also
Statement: ASME portable tanks. Therefore, adding the maximum water capacity in pounds that
a cylinder may contain will differentiate between what are truly cylinders and what
are portable tanks or ASME containers, since the latter refers to water capacity in
gallons.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 97-NFPA 58-2015 [Section No. 3.3.18 [Excluding any Sub-Sections]]
r Where portable fire extinguishers are required, they shall comply with the following:
(1) NFPA 10
(2) * Have a minimum capacity of dry chemical with an A:B:C rating, as Sf)eeifiea
elsevi'l~er:e iR tl=lis eoae
(3) l=lave a FRiRiFRUFR flow Fate of 1 19/see Have a minimum flow rate less than 1 lb/sec
4.7.1
L Fire extinguishers not complying with 4.7 shall be replaced by July 1, 2023.
Committee Statement
Committee High flow extinguishers should not be required. It takes special training to operate
Statement: them and most people (for example, convenience stores that have exchange
cabinets) will not have that training. There will be no increase in safety and a large
expense incurred to change out all the fire extinguishers. Additionally, a survey of
propane companies that will be forced to upgrade their extinguishers indicates that in
some cases there would be a 40% to60% increase in the cost of the extinguisher.
When that factor is combined with the retroactivity provision being proposed, the
cost to the industry would total several millions of dollars and the payback in safety
benefits would be is virtually nil.
Also, the report titled "Ordinary People and Effective Operation of Fire
Extinguishers," published by Worcester Polytechnic Institute and Eastern Kentucky
University describes the use of fire extinguishers by the general public. The report is
available for free download at the following website:
show that the flow rate of extinguishing material was between 0.13 and 0.15 pounds
per second.
Therefore, the proposed change to require high flow rate extinguishers is simply not
justified by either the cost/benefit ratio for making the change or by independent
research on the use of fire extinguishers by the general public.
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Containers shall be designed, fabricated, tested, and marked (or stamped) in accordance
with the regulations of the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT 49 CFR ); Federal
Aviation Administration (FAA 14 CFRl: the ASME Code, Section VIII, "Rules for the
Construction of Unfired Pressure Vessels"; or the API-ASME Code for Unfired Pressure
Vessels for Petroleum Liquids and Gases, except for UG-125 through UG-136.
Committee Statement
Committee Discussions at the first revision meeting determined that the issue of filling and
Statement: ground transportation of containers used in hot air balloons begs for inclusion in the
code. Otherwise, filling of these containers presents a dilemma to propane dealers
of whether or not to fill. There was also a situation of an inspector who was
concerned about the non-inclusion of these containers in the code, causing the
cessation of filling containers and the interruption of a balloon festival. Discussions
with hot air balloon pilots since the first revision meeting shed a great deal of
information about the filling of these containers. The FAA does approve these
containers and that approval can be determined from the flight log for each aircraft.
Adding information about containers for hot air balloons and for filling the containers
will help both the propane industry and the hot air balloon community. The
committee added designation to clarify which CFR was applicable for DOT cylinders
as opposed to FAA containers.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 64-N FPA 58-2015 [Section No. 5.2.1.1 [Excluding any Sub-Sections]]
[i.] Second Revision No. 2-NFPA 58-2015 [New Section after 5.2.8.5(8)]
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5.2.12 Containers for Hot Air Balloons.
5.2.12.1
Containers for hot air balloons shall be marked to demonstrate comoliance with FAA
reaulations.
5.2.12.2
Containers used in hot air balloons shall not be used for any other puroose.
Committee Statement
Committee Discussions at the first revision meeting determined that the issue of filling and
Statement: ground transportation of containers used in hot air balloons begs for inclusion in the
code. Otherwise, filling of these containers presents a dilemma to propane dealers
of whether or not to fill. There was also a situation of an inspector who was
concerned about the non-inclusion of these containers in the code, causing the
cessation of filling containers and the interruption of a balloon festival. Discussions
with hot air balloon pilots since the first revision meeting shed a great deal of
information about the filling of these containers. The FAA does approve these
containers and that approval can be determined from the flight log for each aircraft.
Adding information about containers for hot air balloons and for filling the containers
will help both the propane industry and the hot air balloon community.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 67-NFPA 58-2015 [New Section after 5.2.8.5(8)]
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Cylinders of less than 21b water capacity shall comply with Table 5.8.4.1(B)+aBie
6.7.4.1(8) .
Table 5.8.4.1(8) Container Connection and Appurtenance Requirements for Containers
Used in Other Than Bulk Plants and Industrial Plants
:!: ~1 i~ ~~
Stationa~ DOT and
G·JtiREIBFB 2 lb ASME ASME
Part Appurtenance CtflindeF& Threwah :S420 lb G ~ ontainers
&J,ngine
.P.Qropane ~000 gal
~ :Efuel and
G ~ apacitv (except Wwater Mm obila
DOT Spec. 39)
G~apacitvi G ~ ontainers
~ R R
R
Vapor shutoff (CG/', ~6 with inteFAal with internal
A (CGA 555 outlet
valveb 9I::IW BMSBSS ~19\\1 excess-flow
prohibited)
J:IR:)Ai eiteEI) ¥aiYe valve
~
)IJI=teFe R R R
Liquid shutoff instal leE~, w W ith CGA 555 w W ith internal w W ith internal
B
valveb CG6 • eee outlet and internal excess flow excess-flow
et:ftlet excess-flow valve valve valve
R)~tliFeEl
R
wW ith full
Pressure relief R Rc{see internal or flush-
c valve (See 5.7.2.2.) 5. 7.4.1(A).] type full internal
pressure relief
valve
R
Fixed maximum R (filled by volume) R
~
D liquid level R (filled by weight, [See 5. 7.4.1(C) (ASME onl:t}
gauge
~
:s; 40 lb and> 100 lb) [See 5. 7.4. 1(C l
(10)]
@1J
R
Overfilling R
(ASME only)
E prevention (4 lb through 40 lb) NR
device [See 5. 7.4.1(C)
(See 5. 7. 3.)
(6).]
Actuated liquid R
withdrawal ~ 125 gal)
F NR NR
excess-flow [See 5. 7.4.1(C)
valve (3), (4), and (5).]
R
G Float gauge ~ NR NR
(> 124 gal only)
R R
Filler valve
H [See 5. 7.4.1(C) ~ ~ 100 lb cylinders R (ASME
(7).] that are filled on site
containers only)
at the point of use)
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bwhere installed.
cAboveground ASME containers, internal spring-type pressure relief valves eRiy may be
used, mc:sept as see 5.7.4.1(A) statoo iA aAd .. 5.7.4.1(8). and 5.7.4.1CCL
Supplemental Information
Committee Statement
Committee It was deteiTllined that a separate column was not needed if the requirements for
Statement: the 2-420 lb were expanded to include the <21b containers. The DOT Spec. 39
cylinders were exempted from these requirements because they were never
intended to be included in this table of valve requirements. Cell A2 above included
the phrase "with internal excess flow valve" after the First Draft meeting, the
committee has removed this it was added in error. The requirements of UL 1769
apply to cylinder shutoff valves per section 5. 7.4.1(0)(2). It is noted the teiTll "shut-
off valve" is not defined in NFPA 58.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 49-NFPA 58-2015 [Section No. 5.7.4.1(8)]
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Stationary ASME
≤420 lb Propane DOT and ASME
Part Appurtenance Containers
Capacity (except Engine Fuel and
≤4000 gal Water
DOT Spec. 39) Mobile Containers
Capacitya
A Vapor shutoff R R
valveb (CGA 555 outlet R with internal
prohibited) excess-flow valve
B Liquid shutoff R R
R
valveb with CGA 555 with internal
with internal
outlet and internal excess flow
excess-flow valve
excess-flow valve valve
D Pressure relief R
valve with full internal or
R Rc
flush-type full
(See 5.7.2.2) [See 5.7.4.1(A)]
internal pressure
relief valve
E Fixed R (filled by volume)
R R
maximum R (filled by weight,
[See (ASME only) [See
liquid level ≤ 40 lb and > 100
5.7.4.1(C)(10)] 5.7.4.1(c)(6)]
gauge lb)
F Overfilling R R
prevention (4 lb through 40 lb) NR (ASME only) [See
device (See 5.7.3) 5.7.4.1(c)(6)
G Actuated liquid R
withdrawal (≥ 125 gal) [See
NR NR
excess-flow 5.7.4.1(c)(3), (4),
valve and (5)]
H Float gauge R
NR NR
(> 124 gal only)
I Filler valve R (≥ 100 lb
R
[See cylinders that are
R (ASME containers
5.7.4.1(c)(7)] filled on site at the
only)
point of use)
For SI units, 1 lb = 0.454 kg; 1 gal = 0.0045 m3.
Substantiation: It was determined that a separate column was not needed if the requirements for the 2-
420 lb were expanded to include the <2lb containers. The DOT Spec. 39 cylinders were exempted from
these requirements because they were never intended to be included in this table of valve
requirements. Cell A2 above included the phrase “with internal excess flow valve” after the First Draft
meeting, the committee has removed this it was added in error. The requirements of UL 1769 apply to
cylinder shutoff valves per section 5.7.4.1(D)(2). It is noted the term “shut-off valve” is not defined in
NFPA 58.
Members: Eric Smith (chair), Ted Lemoff, Dick Hoffmann, Steve Gentry, Richard Fredenburg, Bruce
Swiecicki, Phil Ribbs, Sam Newman, Frank Lane, Bill Young, Sam McTier, Eric Nette
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Pipe shall be wrought iron or steel (black or galvanized), brass, copper, polyamide, or
(1) Wrought iron: ASME B36.10M, Welded and Seamless Wrought Steel Pipe
(2) Steel pipe: ASTM A53/A53M, Standard Specification for Pipe, Steel, Black and
Hot-Dipped, Zinc-Coated, Welded and Seamless
(3) Steel pipe: ASTM A 106/A 106M, Standard Specification for Seamless Carbon Steel
Pipe for High-Temperature Service
(4) Brass pipe: ASTM B43, Standard Specification for Seamless Red Brass Pipe,
Standard Sizes
(5) Copper pipe: ASTM B42, Standard Specification for Seamless Copper Pipe,
Standard Sizes
(6) Polyamide pipe: ASTM 02§12 09 .E29§, Standard Specification for
TlieFI'RBI3.'as#ie Polvamide 11 Gas Pressure Pipe, Tubing and Fittings, and shall be
recommended by the manufacturer for use with LP-Gas
(7) Polyethylene pipe: ASTM 02513, Standard Specification for Polyethylene (PE)
Gas Pressure Pipe, Tubing, and Fittings, and shall be recommended by the
manufacturer for use with LP-Gas
Committee Statement
Committee Statement: The new standard for Polyamide pipe and tubing is added.
Response Message:
Public Comment No. 98-NFPA 58-2015 [Section No. 5.9.3.11
5.10.3.2
Tubing shall be steel, stainless steel, brass, copper, polyamide, or polyethylene (see
(1) Brass tubing: ASTM 8135, Standard Specification for Seamless Brass Tube
(2) Copper tubing:
(a) Type K or L: ASTM 888, Standard Specification for Seamless Copper Water
Tube
(b) ASTM 8280, Standard Specification for Seamless Copper Tube for Air
Conditioning and Refrigeration Field Service
Committee Statement
Committee A new standard for Polyamide pipe, tubing, and fittings is added as ASTM
Statement: 02513 has been revised to delete all polyamide coverage.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 40-NFPA 58-2015 [Section No. 5.9.3.21
Second Revision No. 10NFPA 582015 [ New Section after 5.9.5.5 ]
5.10.5.6
Mechanical fittings for ASTM F2945, Standard Specification for Polyamide 11 Gas
Pressure Pipe, Tubing, and Fittings , PA11 gas piping shall comply with Category 1 of
ASTM F2145, Standard Specification for Polyamide 11 (PA11) and Polyamide 12 (PA12)
Mechanical Fittings for Use on Outside Diameter Controlled Polyamide 11 and Polyamide
12 Pipe and Tubing , or ASTM F1948, Standard Specification for Metallic Mechanical
Fittings for Use on Outside Diameter Controlled Thermoplastic Gas Distribution Pipe and
Tubing .
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Eric Nette
Organization: [ Not Specified ]
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Aug 04 14:21:26 EDT 2015
Committee Statement and Meeting Notes
Committee Standards for fittings for PA11 polyamide pipe are added. This is needed as polyamide
Statement: has been removed from ASTM D2513 and new standards are needed to replace them.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 53NFPA 582015 [New Section after 5.9.5.5]
Editorial Comment
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Mechanical fittings for ASTM F2945, Standard Specification for Polyamide 11 Gas
Pressure Pipe, Tubing, and Fittings, PA 11 gas piping shall comply with Category 1 of
ASTM F2145, Standard Specification for Polyamide 11 (PA11) and Polyamide 12 (PA12)
Mechanical Fittings for Use on Outside Diameter Controlled Polyamide 11 and
Polyamide 12 Pipe and Tubing, or ASTM F1948, Standard Specification for Metallic
Mechanical Fittings for Use on Outside Diameter Controlled Thermoplastic Gas
Distribution Pipe and Tubing.
Committee Statement
Committee An additional standard for polyethylene gas fittings is added .. This reflects that
Statement: the current edition of ASTM 02513 had deleted all polyamide.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 52-NFPA 58-2015 [Section No. 5.9.5.5 [Excluding any Sub-Sections]]
(D)
Fiel6 Polyethylene and Polyamide 11 field -assembled anodeless risers shall be design
certified to meet the requirements of Gate§or:y 1 of ,A,STM 02613 ASTM F2905-12.
Standard SPecification for Field-assembled Anodeless Riser Kits for Use on Outside
Diameter Controlled Polvethylene Gas Distribution Pipe and Tubing ... 1 S#aRfiaFfl
SfJeB!Iieat!eR far ,Co/j'etR)'!eRe (PE) Gas Pf:eBBI:IFfJ P!fJe, Tt:SlRfJ BRfi rJtt.ir:lgB -;-Y£
DeJ:~aFtR'leRt of TFaRSJ:IOFtatioR, 49 G~R. 192.281(e), 'TFaRSJ:IOFtatioR"; aRe 8.9.4.3 -aREI-
8.9.4.4 ':'
Committee Statement
Committee A new standard for field assembled anodeless riser kits is added. This is needed
Statement: due to the change in ASTM 02515 which deleted coverage of polyamide materials.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 56-NFPA 58-2015 [Section No. 5.9.5.6(0~
5.10.6.3
Hose and quick connectors conveying LP-Gas at pressures of 5 psig and less shall be
r approved.
Committee Statement
Committee The committee rejected the proposal to delete 5.9.6.3 stating that the requirement is
Statement: used by AHJ's to inspect hose that may have deteriorated over time.
The recommendation to delete the requirement in PI 208 is still valid, however the
recommendation here is to modify the paragraph to reflect that it is excessively
broad. The committee could elect to either delete the requirement, or to provide
guidance on hose inspection in chapter 14.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 38-NFPA 58-2015 [Section No. 5.9.6.3]
5.13.2.5
Plastic ¥- y_ alves in polyethylene piping systems shall be manufactured from
thermoplastic materials listed in ASTM 02513, Standard Specification for Polyethylene
(PE) Gas Pressure Pipe, Tubing and Fittings,tt::lat RB'Ie seeR SROWR to ee r:esistaRt to tt::le
aetioR of LP Gas aRa and shall comply with ASTM 02513 and ASME 816.40-13.
Manuallv Operated Thermoplastic Gas Shutoffs and Valves in Gas Distribution
Systems.
Committee Statement
5.13.2.6
Valves in polyamide piping systems shall be manufactured from 130iyaR=~iele ITlateFial as
etefiReel thennoplastic materials listed in ASTM D2e1 a 09 F2945 , Standard Specification
for TReFIT19{3l'astie Polvamide 11 Gas Pressure Pipe, Tubing.. and Fittings, which have
been shown to be resistant to the action of LP-Gas and comply with ASME 816.40-13.
Manuallv Operated Thermoplastic Gas Shutoffs and Valves in Gas Distribution
Systems.
Committee Statement
Committee Standards for polyamide valves are added. This is needed as polyamide has
Statement: been removed from ASTM 02512.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 55-NFPA 58-2015 [Section No. 5.12.2.6]
6.6.2.1 *
If the point of transfer of containers located outdoors in stationary installations is not
located at the container, it shall be located in accordance with Table 6.6.2.1~
6.9.2.1 .
Table 6.6.2.1 Distance Between Point of Transfer and Exposures
Minimum
Horizontal
Distance
Exoosure !! m
A Buildings, a mobile homes, recreational vehicles, and modular
10c 3.1
homes with at least 1-hour fire-rated wallsb
B Buildingsa with other than at least 1-hour fire-rated wallsb 25c 7.6c
C Building wall openings or pits at or below the level of the point
25c 7.6c
of transfer
D Line of adjoining property that can be built upon 25c 7.6c
E Outdoor places of public assembly, including schoolyards,
athletic fields, and playgrounds srP 15c
J Flammable and Class II combustible liquidf dispensers and the 10c 3.1c
fill connections of containers
K Flammable and Class II combustible liquid aboveground 20 6.1
containers and filling connections of underground containers
L Stored or accumulated combustible materials 10 3.1
aFar the purpose of the table, buildings also include structures such as tents and box
trailers at construction sites.
bsee ASTM E119, Standard Test Methods for Fire Tests of Building Construction and
Materials, or Ul263, Standard for Fire Tests for Building Construction and Materials.
csee 6.5.3.4.
eNot applicable to filling connections at the storage container or to vehicle fuel dispenser
units of 4000 gal (15.2 m3) water capacity or less when used for filling containers not
mounted on vehicles.
fNFPA 30 defines these as follows: j;laFflFRaele Class I flammable liquids include those
having a flash point below 100°F (37.8°C) and having a vapor pressure not exceeding 40
psia (276 kPa) at 100°F (37.8°C). Class II combustible liquids include those having a
flash point at or above 100°F (37.8°C) and below 140°F (60°C).
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Committee Statement
Committee Table 6.5.2.1 addresses the distance requirements for dispensers and fill
Statement: connections to containers and to containers for Class I flammable liquids and Class
II combustible liquids. Paragraph 6.25.4.3 addresses the distance requirements for
dispensing devices as they relate to Class I liquids as well as an exemption for
reducing the distances with low emission transfers. It is confusing to have these
distance requirements in different sections for different classes of liquids,
particularty when the distance requirements are the same for both classes of liquids
for dispensers, fill connections on containers and to containers. This causes
potential confusion and problems of interpretation in the field.
After researching the origins of note c to Table 6.5.2.1, (the reduction of separation
distances by 50% goes back to the 1998 edition), it appears this was an editorial
mistake. Comment 58-37 from the F97 ROC shows that the note was not intended
to apply to the first line of the table. The note first began to appear to Line A of the
table in the 2001 edition, however, there is nothing in either the ROP or the ROC to
support that change. Therefore, it's reasonable to conclude that the NFPA editors
made a mistake in assigning the note to Line A, so we are proposing to delete
reference to Note c in Part A of Table 6.5.2.1.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 99-NFPA 58-2015 [Section No. 6.5.2.11
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6.8.2.3
Pressure relief devices on the following ASME containers shall be so installed that any
gas released is vented away from the container upward and unobstructed to the open
air:
(1) Containers of 125 gal (0.5 m3) or more water capacity installed in stationary
service
(2) Portable storage containers
(3) Portable tanks
(4) Cargo tanks
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Submitter Information Verification
Committee Statement
Committee The removal of cargo tanks from 6.7.2.3 was a mistake made at the First Draft
Statement: meeting. This is in response to FR-118.
Response
Message:
[i.] Second Revision No. 8-NFPA 58-2015 [Section No. 6.9.1.1 (C) ]
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I Polyethylene and polyamide piping systems shall be limited to the following:
Committee Statement
Committee The pressure limits for both polyethylene and polyamide pipe and tubing are due to
Statement: the physical properties of propane and the installed location, and are equally
applicable to polyethylene and polyamide.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 41-NFPA 58-2015 [Section No. 6.9.1.1(C~
I
(B)
The two means of emergency egress, where required, shall be at least 25ft (7.6 m)
apart or as remotely located as J30ssiele is practical .
Committee Statement
Committee Locating the exits as "remotely as possible" is not always practical or achievable.
Statement: A better term would be "as remotely as practical." Although it is vague, the lack of
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(B)
Equivalent protection in lieu of guard posts shall be a minimum of 3ft (900 mm) in height
and shall resist a force of 12,000 6000 lb (53,375 N) applied 3ft (900 mm) above the
adjacent ground surface.
Committee Statement
Committee A mistake was made by NFPA in recording the action of the Technical Committee
Statement: on P.l. No. 222. The quantity of force should be changed from 12,000 to 6,000 as
recorded in
the Committee Statement for P.l. No. 222: "The requirement in 6.25.3.13(8) was
revised to reflect the results of a recent research project funded and published by
the
Propane Education and Research Council. The research determined that neither the
12,000pound load factor nor the 30-inch height for load application specified in
Section
DOT requirements."
In view of the difficulty staff has in manipulating the Terra software, it is certainly
not unexpected that errors like this could occur. Thankfully, this one was caught and
is easily correctable.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 102-NFPA 58-2015 [Section No. 6.25.3.13(8)]
[i.] Second Revision No. 3-NFPA 58-2015 [New Section after 7.2.1.3]
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7.2.1.4*
An FAA-certificated balloon pilot or a trained crew member shall be present and ensure
he proper filling of the containers under the provisions of 5.2.12 ...
Supplemental Information
Committee Statement
Committee Discussions at the first revision meeting determined that the issue of filling and
Statement: ground transportation of containers used in hot air balloons begs for inclusion in the
code. Otherwise, filling of these containers presents a dilemma to propane dealers
of whether or not to fill. There was also a situation of an inspector who was
concerned about the non-inclusion of these containers in the code, causing the
cessation of filling containers and the interruption of a balloon festival. Discussions
with hot air balloon pilots since the first revision meeting shed a great deal of
information about the filling of these containers. The FAA does approve these
containers and that approval can be determined from the flight log for each aircraft.
Adding information about containers for hot air balloons and for filling the containers
will help both the propane industry and the hot air balloon community.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 68-NFPA 58-2015 [New Section after 7.2.1.3]
Public Comment No. 69-NFPA 58-2015 [New Section after A.7.11
A.7.2.1.4
An FAA-certificated balloon pilot meets the qualification requirements of Section 4.4 for
container filling. A crew member for the pilot that has been trained for container filling and
carries a card documenting that training also meets the qualification requirements. The
acceptability of a hot air balloon container for filling can be verified by finding the container
listed in the flight log for that aircraft.
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7.2.2.10
The requirements of 7.2.2.9 shall not apply to containers that comply with 5.2.12
and are included in the flight log of a hot air balloon.
Committee Statement
Committee Discussions at the first revision meeting determined that the issue of filling and
Statement: ground transportation of containers used in hot air balloons begs for inclusion in the
code. Otherwise, filling of these containers presents a dilemma to propane dealers
of whether or not to fill. There was also a situation of an inspector who was
concerned about the non-inclusion of these containers in the code, causing the
cessation of filling containers and the interruption of a balloon festival. Discussions
with hot air balloon pilots since the first revision meeting shed a great deal of
information about the filling of these containers. The FAA does approve these
containers and that approval can be determined from the flight log for each aircraft.
Adding information about containers for hot air balloons and for filling the containers
will help both the propane industry and the hot air balloon community.
[i.] Second Revision No. 6-NFPA 58-2015 [New Section after 7.2.2.9]
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I Hot air balloon containers shall not be required to be removed from the aircraft for filling.
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Committee Statement
Committee SL Note: The section will be numbered to follow the new section added with SR-5.
Statement: This was developed in response to PC-68.
Discussions at the first revision meeting determined that the issue of filling and
ground transportation of containers used in hot air balloons begs for inclusion in the
code. Otherwise, filling of these containers presents a dilemma to propane dealers
of whether or not to fill. There was also a situation of an inspector who was
concerned about the non-inclusion of these containers in the code, causing the
cessation of filling containers and the interruption of a balloon festival. Discussions
with hot air balloon pilots since the first revision meeting shed a great deal of
information about the filling of these containers. The FAA does approve these
containers and that approval can be determined from the flight log for each aircraft.
Adding information about containers for hot air balloons and for filling the containers
will help both the propane industry and the hot air balloon community
Response
Message:
11.1.1 *
This chapter applies to engine fuel systems installed on mobile and nonstationary
engines and off-road eA vehicles using LP-Gas in internal combustion engines, including
containers, container appurtenances, carburetion equipment, piping, hose.. and fittings,
and their installation. Refer to Chapter 12 for on-road LP-Gas vehicle installations.
Committee Statement
Committee The new wording intends to further define and clarify the scope of Chapter 11 by
Statement: differentiating exactly what is covered by Chapter 11 and what will now be covered
under Chapter 12, the new LP-gas vehicle chapter.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 72-NFPA 58-2015 [Section No. 11.1.11
11.1.2*
Tl=lis el=laf)ter Chapter 11 applies to the installation of fuel systems supplying engines
Committee Statement
Committee The modified wording seeks to further clarify and define what is covered in the
Statement: scope of Chapter 11 and the new Chapter 12 on LP-gas vehicles. "This Chapter"
was updated to "Chapter 11" to provide clarity by staff.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 73-N FPA 58-2015 [Section No. 11.1.21
11.8.3.5
Containers installed between axles shall comply with 11.8.3.6 or shall not be lower than
the lowest point forward of the container with the vehicle suspension under full-rated
load compression on the following points:
Committee Statement
Committee The additional wording will provide for an installation location that is safest for the
Statement: worst case with the vehicle under full load. Most vehicles are designed with
suspensions that allow for deflection and will lower the level of the vehicle, this
must be accounted for in determining the safest clearance level to install the
container in both off and on road vehicles.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 82-N FPA 58-2015 [Section No. 11.8.3.5]
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11.8.3.6
Containers installed behind the rear axle and extending below the frame shall comply
with 11.8.3. 7 or shall not be lower than the lowest of the following points and surfaces
with the vehicle suspension under full-rated load compression :
(1) Containers shall not be lower than the lowest point of a structural component of the
body, engine, and transmission (including clutch housing or torque converter
housing, as applicable) forward of the container.
(2) Containers shall not be lower than lines extending rearward from each wheel at the
point where the wheels contact the ground directly below the center of the axle to
the lowest and most rearward structural interference, as illustrated in Part 2 of
Figure 11.8.3.4.
I
Committee Statement
Committee Refer to Public Comment 82. This is to provide consistency in the requirements of
Statement: this section.
The additional wording will provide for an installation location that is safest for the
worst case with the vehicle under full load. Most vehicles are designed with
suspensions that allow for deflection and will lower the level of the vehicle, this
must be accounted for in determining the safest clearance level to install the
container in both off and on road vehicles.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 86-N FPA 58-2015 [Section No. 11.8.3.61
11.9.1.1
Installation of containers in the interior of vehicles or in enclosed compartments shall
Committee Statement
Committee The additional wording provides clarification to containers that may be installed in
Statement: areas that may not be clearly interpreted as being the interior such as exterior
enclosed compartments. These types of enclosures or compartments should be
considered equivalent to interior installations with regards to the level of safety and
protection as due to their similarity in configuration and utilization.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 87-NFPA 58-2015 [Section No. 11.9.1.11
[i.] Second Revision No. 34-NFPA 58-2015 [ Section No. 11.1 0.1.1 ]
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11.10.1.1
The piping system shall be designed, installed, supported, and secured in such a
manner as to minimize damage due to expansion, contraction, vibration, strains,
abrasion. UV deterioration. and wear.
Committee Statement
Committee This broadens the scope of protection to the piping by adding two other critical
Statement: failure modes that may eventually cause a failure in the piping if the piping is not
adequately protected. Abrasion and UV deterioration pose very likely potential
threats to the integrity of piping and the piping must be adequately protected against
both failure modes to ensure the integrity of the piping for its full service life. This
concept applies to all vehicles whether it be Chapter 11 or Chapter 12 applications-
addressed in 12.5.6 also.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 88-N FPA 58-2015 [Section No. 11.1 0.1. 1]
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I The gas regulator and the automatic shutoff valve shall be installed as follows:
(1) An approved automatic shutoff valve in compliance with 11.6.3 shall be installed in
the fuel system.
(2) Approved automatic pressure-reducing equipment shall be installed between the
fuel supply container and the carburetor or final fuel delivery system .
Committee Statement
Committee There is potential in the market for new alternative or advanced fuel systems on
Statement: vehicles. This wording widens the latitude to account for changes in the design of
such systems to be included in this code as long as code requirements are met.
Response
Message:
Public Comment No. 89-N FPA 58-2015 [Section No. 11.11.1.2)
11.12.1.1
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r a weatRer resistaAt,--9iaFAOA8 sAaJ3e&--laBel:
Committee Statement
11.12.1.2
Tt-:le laeel st-:lall ee loeateel oR aR mdeFior veFtieal or Rear veFtieal Sblrfaee oR tt-:le IO\ver
Fi§Rt rear of tt-:le vet-:liele (oR tt-:le tFbiRI( liel of a vet-:liele so e~bliflfleel Bblt Rot OR tt-:le BbiFAfleF
of aRy vet-:liele) iReoarel froFA aRy ott-:ler FAafl(iR§S.
Committee Statement
l 11.12.1.3
TAO laeel SAall eo a R'liAiR'II:JR'I ef 4 3J4 iA. (120 Ftlffi) leA§ By
Committee Statement
11.12.1.4!
Tl=le ITiaFIEiR~ sl=lall eoRsist of a eoFEier aRE! tl=le woFEI PROPANE [1 iR. (28 ITIITI) ITiiRiiTI~ITI
l=lei~l=lt eeRteFOE! iR tl=le Elia!TioREl) iR silver or wl=lite refleetive I~ITiiRo~s !Tiaterial oR a eleelE
eaei(~FO~Ra.
Committee Statement
Committee Statement
Committee The committee has requested Staff and Steven Younis to update the
Statement: documents to their most current revision.
Response
Message:
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11/1712015 National Fire Protection Association Report
M.1.2.3]
API RP 1632, Cathodic Protection of Underground Petroleum Storage Tanks and Piping
Systems, 2944 2002 .
API 2510, Design and Construction of LP-Gas Installations, 2001, reaffirmed 2011.
API-ASME Code for Unfired Pressure Vessels for Petroleum Uquids and Gases, Pre-
July 1, 1961.
Battelle Memorial Institute report, 'The Effect of Velocity, Temperature, and Gas
Molecular Weight on Flammability Limits in Wind-Blown Jets of Hydrocarbon Gases,"
1970.
N.1.2.2 ASCE Publications.
American Society of Civil Engineers, 1801 Alexander Bell Drive, Reston, VA 20191-
4400.
ASCE 7, Minimum Design Loads for Buildings and Other Structures, 2010.
N.1.2.3 ASME Publications.
ASME International, Two Park Avenue, New York, NY 10016-5990.
ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code, ~2015.
Committee Statement
Committee The committee has requested Staff and Steven Younis to update the
Statement: documents to their most current revision.
Response
Message:
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Committee Statement
Committee The committee has requested Staff and Steven Younis to update the
Statement: documents to their most current revision.
Response
Message:
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