Pneumonia
Pneumonia
Pneumonia
2019
Learning Objectives
• The key learning objectives for this presentation are
• :hThe Key Learning objectives for this presentaiton
are:
1. Identify key points in history for pneumonia and
COPD
2. Identify type of pneumonia
3. Guess CXR changes before CXR is done
4. Determine likely organisms responsible
5. Understand antibiotic choices
The Australian Curriculum Framework objectives aligned with are:
1.Clinical Management - pneumonia
2.Clinical Symptoms
Ix –
FBE Hb 15.7 WCC 19.4 (Neutrophils 17.5) Plt 222
CRP 233
ABG: ph 7.40 CO2 32 O2 67 HCO3 19 Sats 94%
LFTs, U+Es Unremarkable
Other investigations
Don’t forget
Blood cultures
Sputum
Case 1 - Diagnosis
What type of CAP – typical
pneumonia is this? Streptococcus
What are the likely pneumoniae (classic
organisms? history)
Severity of pneumonia? Other possibilities- H.
Treatment influenza, moraxella
51-70 II 0.6%
MODERATE
71-90 III 0.9%
91-130 IV 9.5%
Azithromycin No No No YES
Case 2
Mrs JA, 60 year old previously well female presents
with 2 weeks of cough, lethargy, loss of appetite, some
shortness of breath and fever.
Case 2 - Diagnosis
What type of pneumonia
is this?
What are the likely
organisms?
Additional Q’s to ask pt?
Any special additional
tests?
Likely CXR findings?
Treatment
Case 2 - Diagnosis
What type of pneumonia CAP – atypical
is this? Mycoplasma, Legionella,
What are the likely chlamydia psittici or
organisms? Strep pneumoniae
Additional Q’s to ask pt? Birds, anyone else unwell?
Any special additional Legionella urinary antigen
tests? (only detects serogroup 1),
Likely CXR findings? atypical serology
Treatment CXR – likely worse than
symptoms
Diffuse patchy infiltrates
Often bilateral
Treatment
Depends on severity
Atypical cover is crucial
Antibiotics:
Doxycycline 100mg o b.d or
Roxithromycin 150mg o b.d
If mod-severe give i.v:
Azithromycin 500mg iv daily
( or erythromycin)
Duration of treatment: longer than typical
pneumonia – 2-3 weeks.
Case 3
75 year old smoker with known COPD presents with
3/7 of increasing SOB
What other important pieces of information do you
want to know as the consultant on the post-take ward
round?
Important pieces of information
Severity of COPD – Ex tolerance/ functional status,
RFTS
FEV1 (in litres then percentage)
FER
TLCO
Any ICU admissions, BIPAP before?
On Oxygen at home?
On steroids?
Current symptoms – infective or not. Other causes
eg. CCF, PE?
RFTS (the key to diagnosis)
FEV1 – if less than 1.0 Litre this is severe
Mild 50-75%, mod 35-50%, severe <35%
FVC – helps to determine if obstructive or restrictive
deficit.
FER – ratio if reduced = obstructive
TLCO – helps to diagnose any problems with the gas
exchange barrier eg. emphysema.
You’re the ED intern
Pt brought in by MAS straight into resus 2
Very SOB at rest. MAS tell you about hx of COPD,
worse over the last 3 days.
Management
Stabilise the patient first
Airway
Breathing
Circulation
ABG
Management of Infective Exac of
COPD
ABC
Steroids – prednisolone versus hydrocortisone
Bronchodilators and preventors
Ventolin 5mg/ Atrovent 500mcg/ N saline 5 mls 4-6/24
or qid
Seretide inhaler
What are the common bacteria involved?
Antibiotics – what will you use and why?
COPD bacteria
The most commonly isolated species are nontypable
Haemophilus influenzae, Streptococcus pneumoniae,
and Moraxella catarrhalis. About half of exacerbations
yield positive sputum cultures, and the isolation rate
may be increased by the selection of purulent
samples.
Azithromycin No No No YES
Steroid conversions
Dexamethasone mg =
Methylprednisolone mg =
Prednisolone mg =
Hydrocortisone mg =
Cortisone mg
Steroid conversions
Dexamethasone 1mg =
Methylprednisolone 4mg =
Prednisolone 5mg =
Hydrocortisone 20mg =
Cortisone 25mg
Case 4
75 year old man 6/7 post laparotomy with 2/7
worsening hypoxia now requiring high flow oxygen.
Was in ICU post-op with abdominal sepsis.
Type of pneumonia
Organisms to cover …
Case 4
Type of pneumonia HAP
Organisms to cover Bacteria– typical S.
pneumoniae
Gram negatives -
Klebsiella pneumonia,
E.coli, proteus, serratia
G –ve: Pseudomonas
aeuriginosa
Staph Aureus MSSA and
MRSA
Nosocomial pneumonia
Not incubating at time of admission
Develops in patient hospitalised longer than 48 hrs.
Most occur by microaspiration of bacterial colonising
oropharynx or upper GIT
Colonisation of oropharynx with aerobic G- bacilli
and exposure to multiresistant pathogens eg MRSA.
Antibiotic options
Ceftriaxone
G+ and G - cover
Timentin or Tazocin or meropenem
G+ and G- cover + MSSA cover
Worried about MRSA
Add in vancomycin
Worried about pseudomonas – dual G- cover.
Case 5
Beryl, 82 year old lady from nursing home px to ED
with increasing SOB, cough, sputum over 1 week.
PMHx:
COPD – ex-heavy smoker, multiple exac requiring
hospital admission over 10 years. No prev ICU
admissions. No NIV
Stroke
Case 5
Sx: Cognitively intact. Wheelchair bound.
Continent. Supportive children.
0/E Afebrile, Sats 85% R.A, 92% on 3L 02, b.p 140/70,
RR. 40, pulse 100, T 36.
Speaking in words. Alert. Appropriate.
Chest – Bibasal crackles lower right chest. Reduced
airentry.
Case Study 5
Ix:
WCC 12.6, CRP 210, U+E: NAD, LFTs: Alb 30, rest
NAD.
CXR:
Patchy consolidation right lower lobe.
Severity - Prognosis
Organisms
Antibiotic options
Characteristic Points
Age
Men Age (years)
Women Age (years-10)
Nursing home resident 10
Coexisting illness
Neoplastic disease 30
Liver disease 20
Congestive heart failure 10
Cerebrovascular disease 10
Renal disease 10
Physical examination findings
Altered mental status 20
Respiratory rate >30 minute 20
Systolic blood pressure <90mmHg 20
Temperature <35 or >40°C 15
Pulse >125/minute 10
Laboratory and radiographic findings
Arterial pH <7.35 30
Blood urea nitrogen >30mg/dL 20
Serum sodium <130mmol/L 20
Serum glucose >250mg/dL 10
Hematocrit <30% 10
Partial pressure of oxygen< 60mmHg 10
Pleural effusion 10
Case 5
Type of pneumonia Treat like CAP + HAP
Organisms Strep
Atypicals
Gram negatives –
Klebsiella pneumonia,
E.coli,
G –ve: Pseudomonas
aeuriginosa
Staph aureus (MSSA)
MRSA
MICROBIOLOGY in the elderly
Organism not identified in 50%
Commonest = Strep pneumoniae
(CAP up to 58%, Nursing home
acquired up to 30%)
S. H. G Atypical
pneumo influenza negatives
nia
Benzylpenicillin YES YES No No
Ampicillin YES YES No No
Ceftriaxone YES YES YES No
Azithromycin No No No YES
Case Study 5
Progress: Next 3 days, reduced oral intake, speech Ax
– thickened fluids, iv therapy commenced
Tachypnoea persisted. Cognition remained intact.
No change in vital signs.
Day 4: CRP increased to 250, WCC 21.
Case Study 5
CXR – Worsening of consolidation. Now right lower
and mid zones.
Maintained sats with 2 L 02, RR 40, afebrile.
But…
Case Study 4
Patient requests withdrawal of medical therapy.
Palliative care provided.
Morphine relieves dyspnoea.
Dies on Day 10
Case 6
Mr RM, 82 year old inpatient for 1 week with right
MCA infarct found to be hypoxic and febrile.
Antibiotic choices …
Antibiotics
Ceftriaxone is good enough
(even benzylpenicillin would do if aspiration in the
community – now in hospital cover G+ and G-)