Wikidata:Property proposal/Taylor & Francis book ID

Taylor & Francis book ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

   Not done

Description	identifier of a book from Taylor & Francis (Q880582)
Represents	Taylor & Francis (Q880582)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	written work (Q47461344), book (Q571)
Allowed values	[0-9]\d*
Example 1	Sufism in Europe and North America (Q125688216) → 9780203346242
Example 2	Sufism in the West (Q125576510) → 9780203087206
Example 3	Sufis in Western Society: Global networking and locality (Q125640686) → 9780203883648
Example 4	Women in Sufism: Female Religiosities in a Transnational Order (Q125576556) → 9781315815114
Example 5	The Nature of Sufism: An Ontological Reading of the Mystical in Islam (Q125576607) → 9780429448737
Example 6	Practicing Sufism: Sufi Politics and Performance in Africa (Q125576747) → 9781315625935
Example 7	Sufism and Society: Arrangements of the Mystical in the Muslim World, 1200-1800 (Q110699576) → 9780203806982
Example 8	Sufism: An Account of the Mystics of Islam (Q125692180) → 9780203706848
Source	https://www.taylorfrancis.com/search
Number of IDs in source	more than 188,342 entries
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/mono/10.4324/$1
See also	Book publishers properties
Applicable "stated in"-value	Taylor & Francis (Q880582)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Authority control (Q88300058), WikiProject Books (Q8487081)

Motivation

Vladimir Alexiev Jonathan Groß Andy Mabbett Jneubert Sic19 Wikidelo ArthurPSmith PKM Ettorerizza Fuzheado Daniel Mietchen Iwan.Aucamp Epìdosis Sotho Tal Ker Bargioni Carlobia Pablo Busatto Matlin Msuicat Uomovariabile Silva Selva 1-Byte Alessandra.Moi CamelCaseNick Songceci moz AhavaCohen Kolja21 RShigapov Jason.nlw MasterRus21thCentury Newt713 Pierre Tribhou Ahatd JordanTimothyJames Silviafanti Back ache AfricanLibrarian M.roszkowski Rhagfyr 沈澄心 MrBenjo S.v.Mering Hiperterminal (talk) מקף Lovelano Ecravo Chado07

Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: Highly authoritative source in Taylor & Francis (Q880582) (URL: https://www.taylorfrancis.com/search). --Soufiyouns (talk) 06:02, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Oppose this ID is just the ISBN, which we already support. - PKM (talk) 00:56, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
•  Oppose Per PKM. Furthermore, this can also be expressed as a DOI with the Taylor & Francis prefix, eg https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315815114 --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 13:49, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
•  Oppose as above. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:08, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
•  Comment @PKM, Vladimir Alexiev, Pigsonthewing: Thank you for your feedback and I would like to make the valuable observation that the publisher Taylor & Francis (Q880582) uses the ISBN-13 (P212) number to identify its books, but it should also be noted that the property Amazon Standard Identification Number (P5749) of the large publishing house Amazon Books (Q22906322) uses the ISBN-10 (P957) number as an identifier for the books it offers on the market. --Soufiyouns (talk) 08:58, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

  @Soufiyouns yes, however the ID is also part of DOI so I have added a URL match pattern for this to P356 making the need for dedicated ID redundant Back ache (talk) 11:45, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

•  Comment @Back ache: I have added the DOI (P356) statement of Taylor & Francis (Q880582) to the eight (8) books of this property proposal. Regards. --Soufiyouns (talk) 06:15, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

  It would be worth you installing Wikidata:Tools/Wikidata for Web into your browser to make doing things like that quicker, easier and the resulting entries fuller. Back ache (talk) 11:09, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

•  Comment I added the ISBN search clause for Taylor & Francis (Q880582) in the section Wikidata:Book_sources#Search_many_individual_booksellers. Regards. --Soufiyouns (talk) 07:06, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Not done, not created per lack of support. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 12:56, 11 May 2024 (UTC)