Wikidata:Property proposal/access status of contents
access status of contents
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
| Description | whether all content published by a publisher (journal, TV channel, etc.) is directly readable online |
|---|---|
| Represents | academic conference (Q2020153), convention series (Q15900647), news media (Q1193236), broadcaster (Q15265344) |
| Data type | entity-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype) |
| Template parameter | "openaccess" in en:template:Infobox Academic Conference and in en:template:Infobox Journal |
| Allowed values | same values as online access status (P6954) |
| Example 1 | International Conference on Database Theory. Proceedings (Q25106323) → free to read (Q24707952) |
| Example 2 | TheGuardian.com (Q5614018) → free to read (Q24707952) |
| Example 3 | Nature (Q180445) → paywall (Q910845) |
| Example 4 | Netflix (Q907311) → paywall (Q910845) |
| Planned use | add information about scientific venues following existing lists like [1] or [2] |
| See also | online access status (P6954) |
Motivation
[edit]This is about adding a property to indicate which publishers make their work available online at no cost. The main motivation I see is to keep track of en:Open access scientific venues (journals and conferences) but the notion would make sense more broadly, e.g., for online newspapers (some require a subscription and some do not), online TV channels, etc.
We already have online access status (P6954) but this is explicitly intended as a qualifier to indicate whether the DOI for a *single entity* (e.g., a single article) is open-access or not. So I think this is complementary to the proposal: it's better to indicate the access status of individual articles with online access status (P6954) when they have a Wikidata entity, but for all the research articles, news articles, etc., that don't, then the availability status could be inferred from the status of the publisher.
There may be some corner cases in the definition, e.g., some scientific publishers distribute some works as open-access if the authors pay an extra charge; so I think the proposal should indicate the default status of articles (i.e., requiring no extra payment), possibly in a certain date range.
Another possibility is to use online access status (P6954) as a qualifier of ISSN (P236) but this would not work for media without an ISSN. --A3nm (talk) 15:50, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]- It would also be useful to be able to mark in some way whether some periodical is in the public domain and where it's available online, see Wikidata talk:WikiProject Periodicals#Tables with information on periodical copyright and free issue availability. Nemo 16:14, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
Support. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 16:48, 14 December 2019 (UTC).- @Nemo_bis: online access status (P6954) also allows use as a qualifier on collection or exhibition size (P1436) per the usage instructions. I would suggest proposing a change to online access status (P6954) to handle your use case (if it really can't do it now) rather than creating a totally new property here. ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:40, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- Hasn't that use been shifted to the separate access restriction status (P7228)?
Weak oppose per ArthurPSmith: prefer extension of online access status (P6954) to allow its use as a main property to cover this. Jheald (talk) 22:13, 16 December 2019 (UTC)- Weak oppose per Jheald; it's not clear what the drawback is to allowing online access status (P6954) as a main property. Swpb (talk) 16:59, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks @ArthurPSmith: @Jheald: @Swpb: for the feedback! It also sounds reasonable to me to allow online access status (P6954) as a main property, with the semantics that on an entity it describes the access status of that entity (or its "contents", e.g., the proceedings of a conference series). How would one go in suggesting this? Would it be on Property_talk:P6954? Or can I just edit online access status (P6954) and use it directly? --A3nm (talk) 21:23, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- @ArthurPSmith: @Jheald: @Swpb: asking again, how can I proceed to help move this forward? Thanks! --A3nm (talk) 13:23, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- @ArthurPSmith: @Jheald: @Swpb: how can this move forward? thanks! --A3nm (talk) 19:39, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
- Be bold and change the constraints on online access status (P6954). If anyone opposes, start a discussion on the property's talk page. Swpb (talk) 19:59, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! I have done this, and am creating my example facts using this system. If we do it this way, then my proposed property should not be created. --A3nm (talk) 16:31, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
- Be bold and change the constraints on online access status (P6954). If anyone opposes, start a discussion on the property's talk page. Swpb (talk) 19:59, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
- @ArthurPSmith: @Jheald: @Swpb: how can this move forward? thanks! --A3nm (talk) 19:39, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
- @ArthurPSmith: @Jheald: @Swpb: asking again, how can I proceed to help move this forward? Thanks! --A3nm (talk) 13:23, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks @ArthurPSmith: @Jheald: @Swpb: for the feedback! It also sounds reasonable to me to allow online access status (P6954) as a main property, with the semantics that on an entity it describes the access status of that entity (or its "contents", e.g., the proceedings of a conference series). How would one go in suggesting this? Would it be on Property_talk:P6954? Or can I just edit online access status (P6954) and use it directly? --A3nm (talk) 21:23, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- Weak oppose While I intended online access status (P6954) primarily as a reflection of en:Template:Access indicator and species:template:access, this is literally exactly the same thing, except being applied in a slightly different realm. Circeus (talk) 21:43, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
- @A3nm: I closed this as withdrawn, ok? --- Jura 12:36, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- Yup, sounds good! --A3nm (talk) 19:21, 20 July 2020 (UTC)