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Doubt in Load Combinations in Steel Design (WSM)

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Posted:TueFeb03,20096:22amPostsubject:DoubtinLoadCombinationsinSteelDesign(WSM)

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Joined:24Mar2008
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IhavesomedoubtinLoadCombinationsinSteelDesign(WorkingStressMethod)asperIS800.
AsperrevisedcodeIS800:2007,Noincreaseinstressesareallowedwhenwindisthemajorloadin
theloadcombination(i.e.,DL+WLcombinations).
AlsoasperoldcodeIS800:1984,Noincreaseinstressesareallowedwhenwindisthemajorloadin
theloadcombination(i.e.,DL+WLcombinations).
IS800:1984Clause
3.9.2IncreaseinPermissibleStressesinMembersProportionedforOccasionalLoadings
3.9.2.1Windorearthquakeloads
StructuralsteelandsteelcastingsWhentheeffectofwindor
Earthquakeloadistakenintoaccount,the.permissiblestresses
Specifiedmaybeexceededby33.3percent.
Rivets,boltsandtensionrodsWhentheeffectofthewindor
Earthquakeloadistakenintoaccount,thepermissiblestresses
Specifiedmaybeexceededby25percent.
3.3.4Wherethewindloadisthemainloadactingonthestructure,no
increaseinthepermissiblestressesisallowed.
ThefollowingSpecialPublications&HandbooksarebasedonthecodeIS800:1984inwhich33.3%
increaseinstressesareallowedwhenwindisthemajorloadintheloadcombination(i.e.,DL+WL
combinations).
SP47(S&T):1988,SP:4O(S&T)1987&SP:38(S&T)1987
2.2.1LoadCombination
Thefollowingloadcombinationhavebeenconsideredincalculatingthedesignforcesforbeamand
columninaccordancewithIS875:1964.
a)DL+LL
b)0.75(DL+C,XWL,)
c)0.75(DL+c,XWL2)
d)0.75(DL+C,,XWL,)
WhereC,=0.75forcolumnforcesifthebuildingheightislessthanorequalto30metres,C,=0.75
forbeamforcesiftheheightofframeislessthanorequalto10metresandC,,=1.0forothercases.
Inthecalculationofdesignforcesfordeadandwindloadcombination,theactualforceshavebeen
reducedby25percenttoaccountfor33.3percentincreaseinallowablestressesunderthisload
combination.
ItismyrequesttoyouPleasesuggestwhetherIcanincreasethestressesby33.3%forDL+WL
combinationsaspernewcodeornot.
IfnotthenhowitistakenwhileusingoldISCodewhereisitmentionedthatnoincreaseinstresses
isallowedwhenwindisthemajorloadinloadcombinations.

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Thankingyou,
ManojD.Vaishya

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rahultelang
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Location:Pune

Posted:FriFeb27,20095:07amPostsubject:Re:Contributionofsnowloadatthetimeof
Earthquake

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DearSir,
IhaveanquestionregardingsnowlaodatthetimeofEarthquakeload.
HowmuchcontributionofsnowloadshouldbeconsideratthetimeofEarthquakeloading?
(e.g.whensnowontopofroofthattimeifEarthquakeoccure,howmuchweightofsnowshouldbe
considertoevaluateEQ.)
OurIS1893doesentspecifyanyfactor.Theysimplytoldtotakeappropritesnowload.
Regard
RahulTelang
*****************************************************
manoj.vaishyawrote:
RespectedSirs,
IhavesomedoubtinLoadCombinationsinSteelDesign(WorkingStressMethod)asperIS
800.
AsperrevisedcodeIS800:2007,Noincreaseinstressesareallowedwhenwindisthemajor
loadintheloadcombination(i.e.,DL+WLcombinations).
AlsoasperoldcodeIS800:1984,Noincreaseinstressesareallowedwhenwindisthemajor
loadintheloadcombination(i.e.,DL+WLcombinations).
IS800:1984Clause
3.9.2IncreaseinPermissibleStressesinMembersProportionedforOccasionalLoadings
3.9.2.1Windorearthquakeloads
StructuralsteelandsteelcastingsWhentheeffectofwindor
Earthquakeloadistakenintoaccount,the.permissiblestresses
Specifiedmaybeexceededby33.3percent.
Rivets,boltsandtensionrodsWhentheeffectofthewindor
Earthquakeloadistakenintoaccount,thepermissiblestresses
Specifiedmaybeexceededby25percent.
3.3.4Wherethewindloadisthemainloadactingonthestructure,no
increaseinthepermissiblestressesisallowed.
ThefollowingSpecialPublications&HandbooksarebasedonthecodeIS800:1984inwhich
33.3%increaseinstressesareallowedwhenwindisthemajorloadintheloadcombination
(i.e.,DL+WLcombinations).
SP47(S&T):1988,SP:4O(S&T)1987&SP:38(S&T)1987
2.2.1LoadCombination
Thefollowingloadcombinationhavebeenconsideredincalculatingthedesignforcesfor
beamand
columninaccordancewithIS875:1964.
a)DL+LL
b)0.75(DL+C,XWL,)
c)0.75(DL+c,XWL2)
d)0.75(DL+C,,XWL,)
WhereC,=0.75forcolumnforcesifthebuildingheightislessthanorequalto30metres,C,
=0.75
forbeamforcesiftheheightofframeislessthanorequalto10metresandC,,=1.0for
othercases.Inthecalculationofdesignforcesfordeadandwindloadcombination,the
actualforceshavebeenreducedby25percenttoaccountfor33.3percentincreasein
allowablestressesunderthisloadcombination.
ItismyrequesttoyouPleasesuggestwhetherIcanincreasethestressesby33.3%forDL
+WLcombinationsaspernewcodeornot.
IfnotthenhowitistakenwhileusingoldISCodewhereisitmentionedthatnoincreasein
stressesisallowedwhenwindisthemajorloadinloadcombinations.
Thankingyou,
ManojD.Vaishya

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Dr.N.Subramanian
GeneralSponsor

Posted:FriFeb27,20093:30pmPostsubject:Re:Contributionofsnowloadatthetimeof
Earthquake

HiRahulTelang
IampastingtheAbstractfromapaperbyProf.O'RourkewhoisanauthorityonSnowloads.Hopeit
helps.
Subramanian

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RoofSnowLoadforSeismicDesignCalculations
byMichaelJ.ORourke,M.ASCE,(Prof.ofCiv.Engrg.,RensselaerPolytechnicInst.,Troy,NY12180)
andRobertS.Speck,Jr.,A.M.ASCE,(Prin.Associate,RyanBiggsAssociatesP.C.,Troy,NY)

Joined:21Feb2008
Posts:4881
Location:Gaithersburg,MD,
U.S.A.

JournalofStructuralEngineering,Vol.118,No.9,September1992,pp.23382350,

Abstract:Thelateralloadsimposedonastructureduringanearthquakearefunctionsofthepeak
groundaccelerationandthetotalmassofthestructureamongotherparameters.Forstructures
locatedinsnowyregions,thequestionarisesastotheappropriateroofsnowloadtobeusedin
earthquakecalculations.Variouscodesandloadstandardssuggestvaluesforthesnowload,whichis
tobecombinedwithdeadloadinearthquakeanalysis.Inthispaperstatisticalinformationondaily
groundsnowloadsandstatisticalinformationontheconversionfactorbetweenroofandgroundloads
areusedtodetermineappropriateroofsnowloadsforearthquakeanalysis.Asdefinedherein,the
appropriateroofsnowloadissuchthattheexceedanceprobabilityforthedesignseismicbaseshearis
identicaltotheexceedanceprobabilityforthedesignpeakgroundacceleration.Theanalysissuggests
thattheappropriateroofsnowloadforseismiccalculationsis20%ofthe50yearmeanrecurrence
intervalgroundsnowload.***

DearSir,
IhaveanquestionregardingsnowlaodatthetimeofEarthquakeload.
HowmuchcontributionofsnowloadshouldbeconsideratthetimeofEarthquakeloading?
(e.g.whensnowontopofroofthattimeifEarthquakeoccure,howmuchweightofsnowshouldbe
considertoevaluateEQ.)
OurIS1893doesentspecifyanyfactor.Theysimplytoldtotakeappropritesnowload.
Regard
RahulTelang
*****************************************************

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Posted:FriSep21,20123:40pmPostsubject:

DearSeniorsetc.
ihavetodesignsteeltrussasperoldcodeIS:8001984.

Joined:31May2010
Posts:14
Location:NewDelhi

CansomeonepleaseguidemeregardingtheloadcombinationsrequiredforFoundation
check,permissibleincreaseinSBC,permissibleincreaseinstressesinsteelmembers.<xml>
<o></o>
TheprimaryloadcaseareDeadload,LiveLoadnWindload.<o></o>
FewthingsIgotfromcodelikepermissibleincreaseinstressesinsteelmembersis33.3%
forWind+Dead<o></o>
ButwhataboutD+L+W,<o></o>
Waitingforthereply.<o></o>

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