Introduction to

Protection Basics
BRENT L. CARPER, P.E.
Principal Engineer

Presented at the
34th Annual Hands-On Relay School
March 13-17, 2017
Agenda
▪ HRS schedule and logistics
▪ Tips for a great week
▪ Introduction to system protection
▪ Fundamental concepts
▪ Tools of protection
▪ Applications
▪ Recap
HRS Schedule
and Logistics
Monday
Morning (8:00 – 12:00) Todd Hall 116
▪ Introduction Lecture Series
Introduction to Protection
Math for Technicians
Phasors

Lunch (12:00 – 1:00)

Afternoon (1:00 – 3:00) Sloan 175

▪ Introduction Lecture Series
Mho Testing Techniques
Lessons Learned
Afternoon (3:10 – 5:00) EME B54
▪ GE IAC

Evening (5:00 +) Birch & Barley

Tuesday
Morning (7:30 – 12:00) Todd Hall (various rooms)
▪ Concurrent Open Lectures
12 lectures available – Pick 4

Lunch (12:00 – 1:00)

Afternoon (1:00 – 5:00) EME B54

▪ ABB RC
▪ BE1-79A
▪ BE1-27/59

Evening (6:30 – 9:00)

▪ Supplier’s Showcase
Wednesday
Morning (7:30 – 12:00) EME B54
▪ GE BDD

Lunch (12:00 – 1:00)

Afternoon (1:00 – 5:00) EME B54

▪ ABB IRD9

Evening (6:00 – 9:00)

▪ Social and Banquet
Thursday
Morning (7:30 – 12:00) EME B54
▪ GE CEY51A

Lunch (12:00 – 1:00)

Afternoon (1:00 – 5:00) EME B54

▪ SEL-551

Evening
▪ Optional SEL manufacturing plant tour
Friday
Morning (7:30 – 10:30) Todd Hall 116
▪ Review the Week
▪ Switching Incident Lessons Learned
▪ Ukrainian Power System Cyber Attack
Tips for a Great Week
Tips
▪ Parking and speeding
▪ Be on time
▪ Watch out for the afternoon snacks
▪ Enjoy the evening events
▪ Plan around happy hour
▪ Embrace variety
▪ Talk to other people from other companies
Introduction to
System Protection
Intro to Power System Protection
▪ What: What are we protecting
▪ Why: Why do we need protection
▪ When: Speed, selectivity, dependability
▪ Where: The equipment used to perform protection
▪ How: Applying protective relaying
What
Why
Why
Why
Why
Why
When
▪ Speed, selectivity, dependability

▪ Protection must:
▪ Detect an abnormal system condition
▪ React quickly
▪ Respond properly

▪ Not as easy as it sounds!

▪ How do we “detect” something happening miles away?
▪ How do we react quickly enough? Electricity is traveling at (almost) the
speed of light.
▪ How do we ensure that the response action is correct? An incorrect
response could make the abnormal condition worse.
When
▪ Speed, selectivity, dependability

▪ Protection must:
▪ Detect an abnormal system condition
▪ React quickly
▪ Respond properly

▪ In general:
▪ “abnormal” means a Fault
▪ “quickly” means Milliseconds
▪ “properly” is accomplished by:
▪ Engineering (relay application, coordination, redundancy and backup)
▪ Testing, Commissioning, Maintenance, Verification, Event Analysis
Where
▪ The equipment used to perform protection
Where
▪ The equipment used to perform protection
Where
▪ The equipment used to perform protection
Where
Where
▪ Relays are just one component of the “Protection System”
▪ Relays
▪ Circuit Breakers (or switches)
▪ Input Sources (CTs, PTs, Sensors, I/O)
▪ DC System (battery)
▪ Interconnection (wiring , controls, integration)

▪ The best Relay Techs (and engineers) have expertise on the

entire “Protection System”, not just the relays!
How
▪ Applying protective relaying

1. Engineering
▪ Applications, zones of protection, fault studies, schematic design
▪ Relay settings and logic

2. Construction and Commissioning

▪ Testing the application (not the settings)
▪ Calibration of E/M relays
▪ Functional testing

3. Maintenance for Reliability

▪ Periodic in-service load readings, relay I/O testing, E/M relay calibration, trip
checks, breaker monitoring and maintenance, battery system maintenance
▪ Event analysis
▪ Managing changes, managing relay firmware, verifying settings
▪ Cyber security
How
▪ How NOT to apply protective relaying…

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How
▪ The best Relay Techs (and engineers) have expertise on the entire
“Protection System”, not just the relays!

▪ The best Relay Techs (and engineers) do not become famous,

and do not end up on YouTube!
Fundamental
Concepts
Fundamentals
▪ Relays measure Current or Voltage
▪ Magnitude, Phase Angle, or Speed (frequency)
▪ Relative to a threshold
▪ Relative to another phase
▪ Relative to another quantity
▪ Rate of change

▪ Examples
▪ Fuse reacts to __________
▪ Overcurrent Relay reacts to __________
▪ Ground (Residual) Overcurrent Relay reacts to __________
▪ Distance Relay reacts to __________
▪ Directional Overcurrent Relay reacts to __________
▪ Sync Check Relay reacts to __________
Official Definitions
▪ Relay
▪ “An electric device that is designed to respond to input conditions in a
prescribed manner and, after specified conditions are met, to cause
contact operation or similar abrupt change in associated electric control
circuits. Inputs are usually electric, but may be mechanical, thermal, or
other quantities or combinations of quantities. Limit switches and similar
simple devices are not relays.” (IEEE C37.90)

▪ Protective Relay
▪ “A relay whose function is to detect defective lines or apparatus or other
power system conditions of an abnormal or dangerous nature and to
initiate appropriate control circuit action.” (IEEE 100).

▪ Fuse
▪ “An overcurrent protective device with a circuit-opening fusible part that
is heated and severed by the passage of the overcurrent through it” (IEEE
100)
Practical Definitions
▪ In general…

▪ Protective Relays respond to measurements of current and/or voltage of

the power system, and have settings or adjustments.

▪ Auxiliary Relays are used with Protective Relays to complete a protection

and control scheme. Auxiliary relays respond to control system currents
or voltages. They usually do not have adjustments or settings.

▪ Other types of relays and devices may respond to things such as:
Pressure, Temperature, Vibration, Light, Position, Liquid Level, Air/Oil
Flow, etc. These relays/devices may perform important protective
functions.
Protective Relays
Auxiliary Relays
Not Relays

Not Relays…
but important protective devices.
Relaying?
▪ Transformer Sudden Pressure Relay (Rapid Pressure Rise Relay)
and associated Seal-In Relay
▪ Protective Relays? Auxiliary Relays?
This is an example of a “gray area” many places

Except it’s not a gray area at NERC! This is included in PRC-005.

Relay System
Relay System
▪ Relays are just one component of the “Protection System”
▪ Relays
▪ Circuit Breakers (or switches)
▪ Input Sources (CTs, PTs, Sensors, I/O)
▪ DC System (battery)
▪ Interconnection (wiring , controls, integration)

▪ The best Relay Techs (and engineers) have expertise on the

entire “Protection System”, not just the relays!
Relay Construction
▪ Relay Types:
▪ Electromechanical (E/M)
▪ Solid State (Analog, Static)
▪ Digital (Microprocessor, Numerical, IED, Computerized)

▪ Relay Construction:
▪ Single-Function / Multi-Function
▪ Single-Phase / Poly-Phase (multi-phase)
▪ Drawout Case / Fixed
▪ Rack Mount / Panel Mount
▪ Projection Mount / Flush Mount / Semi-Flush Mount
▪ Front Connected, Back Connected
Reliability
▪ Dependability = Trips every time
▪ Security = Never false trips

▪ Increase Dependability by:

▪ Increasing sensitivity, increasing number of elements/relays used
▪ Redundant relays, dual batteries, dual trip coils
▪ Digital relay self monitoring
▪ Maintenance, reviewing events

▪ Increase Security by:

▪ Correct applications and good design engineering
▪ Minimizing “features”, maintaining simplicity
▪ Maintaining calibration (e/m and solid-state) and Firmware (digital)

▪ Utility Grade versus Industrial Grade

Reliability?
Relay Considerations
▪ Understand the pros and cons of:
▪ E/M, Solid State, and Digital
▪ Different relay types and designs

▪ Things to consider in relay

applications:

▪ Life ▪ Calibration/Maintenance
▪ Reliability ▪ Speed
▪ Redundancy/Backup ▪ Accuracy
▪ Simplicity in function ▪ Flexibility
▪ Power draw (on the battery) ▪ Burden (AC current/voltage inputs)
▪ Cost ▪ Information and data recording
▪ Integration
ANSI Device Numbers – IEEE C37.2
▪ Hands-On Relay School Clipboard
▪ WSU EE494 Handout

▪ This Week
▪ 21 Distance Relay
▪ 27 Undervoltage Relay
▪ 50 Instantaneous Overcurrent Relay
▪ 51 AC Time Overcurrent Relay
▪ 52 AC Circuit Breaker
▪ 59 Overvoltage Relay
▪ 67 AC Directional Overcurrent Relay
▪ 79 Reclosing Relay
▪ 87 Differential Relay
ANSI Device Numbers – IEEE C37.2
▪ Number prefixes (or suffixes) are used for multiple similar
devices on the same piece of equipment
▪ Examples:
▪ 101, 201, 301
▪ 121, 221, 321
▪ 21-1, 21-2, 21-3

▪ A slash (/) is used for multiple functions in a single device

▪ Examples:
▪ 50/51
▪ 27/59
ANSI Device Numbers – IEEE C37.2
▪ Suffixes are used to describe and differentiate devices
▪ Examples:
▪ A, B, C – Phase
▪ B – Bus
▪ BF – Breaker Failure
▪ G – Generator or Ground
▪ L – Line
▪ N – Neutral
▪ P – Phase
▪ Q – Liquid (oil), Negative Sequence
▪ R – Remote
▪ T – Transformer
▪ V – Voltage
▪ X, Y, Z – Auxiliary Devices

▪ Typically the letters I, O, and S are avoided

ANSI Device Numbers – IEEE C37.2
▪ Examples:
▪ 87B, 87T, 87L, 87G
▪ 187T, 287T
▪ 50/51A
▪ 71Q
▪ 21/67N
ANSI Device Numbers – IEEE C37.2
Compliance
▪ North American Electric Reliability Corporation (NERC)
▪ Protection and Control (PRC) Reliability Standards
▪ PRC-001 System Protection Coordination
▪ PRC-002 Disturbance Monitoring
▪ PRC-004 Protection System Misoperations
▪ PRC-005 Protection System Maintenance and Testing
▪ And so on…

▪ NERC compliance is the best thing to happen to Relay Techs in 140 years of
electric power! NERC PRC-005 has made relay testing and commissioning
one of the most important functions in the utility industry.
Tools of Protection
Tools of Protection
▪ Electrical theory and math
▪ Phasors
▪ Symmetrical components
▪ Per unit system

▪ Attend other lectures this week on Math, Phasors, and Symmetrical

Components
Per Unit System
▪ Simplifies calculations in power systems
▪ Allows a 1-phase equivalent circuit for a 3-phase system
(no more √3 errors)
▪ Eliminates transformers from calculations
▪ Because of this, it is very common for equipment parameters to be in
Per Unit (example: 20MVA transformer with 8.5% Z).

▪ Example:
▪ 115/12.47kV, 20/30/40MVA transformer with 8.5% Z.
▪ What is the maximum fault current on the low side?

▪ First… Let’s understand what %Z is…

Per Unit System
A

▪ How is transformer %Z determined?

▪ Short one side of the transformer
▪ Slowly increase the voltage on the other side until the current reaches the rated base amps

Example: 115/12.47kV, 20/30/40MVA transformer

P 20MVA
𝐼𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑 = = = 100.4 Amps
3×VLL 3×115kV
The test determines the required voltage to get 100.4 Amps is 9,775V
Z = V/I = 9,775/100.4 = 97.36 ohms

How will we use “97.36 ohms” in calculating fault current on the low side under normal
conditions? Voltage regulation? Etc.
1-phase or 3-phase, sqrt(3), voltage ratio, current ratio… Pretty tricky!
Per Unit System
A

▪ How is transformer %Z determined?

▪ Short one side of the transformer
▪ Slowly increase the voltage on the other side until the current reaches the rated base amps

Example: 115/12.47kV, 20/30/40MVA transformer

P 20MVA
𝐼𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑 = = = 100.4 Amps
3×VLL 3×115kV
The test determines the required voltage to get 100.4 Amps is 9,775V
Z = V/I = 9,775/100.4 = 97.36 ohms
%Z = 9,775/115,000 = 0.085 = 8.5%Z
Per Unit System
A

▪ Example:
▪ 115/12.47kV, 20/30/40MVA transformer with 8.5% Z.
▪ What is the maximum fault current on the low side?

▪ Sfault = 20MVA / 8.5% = 20MVA/0.085 = 235MVA

𝑃𝑓𝑎𝑢𝑙𝑡 235MVA
▪ 𝐼𝑓𝑎𝑢𝑙𝑡 = = = 10,894 Amps
3×VLL 3×12.47kV
P 20MVA
▪ Or, in one step… 𝐼𝑓𝑎𝑢𝑙𝑡 = = = 𝟏𝟎, 𝟖𝟗𝟒 Amps
3×VLL ×%𝑍 3×12.47kV×0.085

▪ Remember… %Z is on the transformer BASE rating (20MVA), not the top

rating (40MVA)!
Per Unit System
▪ Use Per Unit to evaluate Arc Flash Hazard:

▪ Where are you at more risk for Arc Flash?

1. Working on 14.4 kV terminals of a 50/62/75 MVA 9%Z substation transformer
2. Working on 480 V terminals of a 2,500 kVA 5.5%Z distribution transformer
Note: (Substation transformer is 75,000/2,500 = 30x larger in MVA)
(Substation voltage is 14,400/480 = 30x larger in kV)

▪ Solution:
𝑃𝑓𝑎𝑢𝑙𝑡 50MVA
= = 22,274 Amps
3×VLL 3×14.4kV×0.09

𝑃𝑓𝑎𝑢𝑙𝑡 2,500kVA
= = 54,673 Amps
3×VLL 3×480V×0.055

Arc energy is I2t

(54.7kA/22.3kA)2 = 6x the arc flash energy at the distribution transformer!

Could you have done this with Ohms? It would have been difficult!
Applications
Overcurrent Protection
▪ Monday Afternoon – GE IAC
▪ Electromechanical relay
▪ Single-phase relay, dual function
▪ ANSI 50/51

▪ Thursday Afternoon – SEL-551

▪ Digital relay
▪ Three-phase, ground, and neutral
▪ Negative sequence
▪ Reclosing
▪ ANSI 50, 50/62, 51, 79

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Overcurrent Protection
▪ What does an Overcurrent Relay respond to?
▪ Current only
▪ Magnitude only
▪ Non-directional
▪ Phase or Ground
▪ SEL-551 can also do Negative Sequence current

▪ GE IAC Relay
▪ Total current (60Hz+Harmonics+DC)
▪ SEL-551 Relay
▪ Fundamental current only (60Hz)

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Overcurrent Protection
Overcurrent Protection
▪ Most common protection for Distribution

▪ Sometimes used as protection for

▪ Transmission Lines
▪ Transformers
▪ Generators and Machines
▪ Busses
But typically as Backup (not primary) protection

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Overcurrent Protection
▪ Coordinate with a wide variety
of devices
▪ Other Relays
▪ Fuses
▪ Reclosers

▪ Coordinate with
different types of protection
▪ Coordinate 51Q with 51P
▪ Coordinate 51G with Fuse

▪ Coordinate with
equipment damage curves

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Overcurrent Protection
▪ Pickup = Sensitivity
▪ Typically want the most
sensitivity possible (lowest
pickup)
▪ But must be above load

▪ Time Delay = Coordination

▪ Set to coordinate with the next
device down-line

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Time-Current Coordination Curve (TCC)
▪ Curve 1 is a Fuse

▪ Curve 2 is an
Overcurrent Relay (51 Only)

▪ Curve 3 is an
Overcurrent Relay (50 and 51)

▪ Typical overcurrent settings:

▪ Pickup
▪ Curve Type
▪ Time Delay (for 50/62)
or Time Dial (for 51)

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Testing the IAC Relay
▪ Need to test it to set it
▪ Pickup (50)
▪ Time Dial (51)

▪ Verify calibration
(for commissioning and for
maintenance)
▪ Pickup (50/51)
▪ Curve (51)
▪ 3 points for a curve?
▪ Test at M=1.5, 4, 20?
▪ Reset Timing (51)
▪ Targeting
▪ Can automate some of this

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Testing the SEL-551 Relay
▪ Need to test it to set it?
▪ Need to verify calibration?

▪ Commissioning tests:
▪ Test I/O
▪ Test logic
▪ Functional tests
▪ In-service checks: STA, MET, SER, ER, COM, DAT, TIM, etc.
▪ Sanity check

▪ Maintenance Tests:
▪ In-service checks
▪ Verify settings
▪ Check for firmware updates and service bulletins
▪ Test I/O
▪ Trip check
Reclosing
▪ Tuesday Afternoon
▪ ABB RC
▪ Electromechanical work of art!
▪ BE1-79A
▪ Microprocessor relay
▪ Direct replacement (sometimes) for
ABB RC and GE ACR relays
▪ Thursday Afternoon
▪ SEL-551

▪ Uses:
▪ Fuse-Saving Schemes
▪ Fuse-Blowing Schemes
▪ High-Speed Reclosing Schemes
▪ Automatic Switching Schemes

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Reclosing
▪ Testing & Commissioning
▪ Logic
▪ Timing
▪ Application check (sanity check)

▪ Maintenance
▪ Timing
▪ Output contacts

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Voltage Protection
▪ Tuesday Afternoon
▪ BE1-27/59
▪ Solid State relay

▪ Applications
▪ Generator/Machine protection
▪ Hot/Dead Line/Bus close supervision
▪ Undervoltage load shedding

▪ Settings: pickup, timing

▪ Testing, Commissioning, and Maintenance:

▪ Calibration
▪ Targeting
▪ Power supply
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Differential Protection
▪ Wednesday Morning – GE BDD
▪ Transformer Differential Protection (87T)

▪ Differential = Kirchhoff's Current Law

Sum of the currents equals zero
What comes in, must go out

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Differential Protection – Bus
▪ External Fault

Line 1 Line 2 Line 3

I=0
87B

21 21 21
Differential Protection – Bus
▪ Internal Fault

Line 1 Line 2 Line 3

87B

21 21 21
Differential Protection – Bus
▪ Summary
▪ Bus Differential can be very sensitive and very fast,
and still very secure:
▪ Normal load = current approximately 0
▪ External fault = current approximately 0
▪ Internal fault = current very high

▪ CT performance is critical
▪ CT lead resistance is critical
Differential Protection – Transformer
▪ External Fault (Through Fault)

I=0

O
Differential Protection – Transformer
▪ Internal Fault

O
Differential Protection – Transformer
▪ Transformer Differential looks like Bus Differential
But it isn’t that simple…

▪ Transformers have:
▪ Losses (variable losses)
▪ Inrush
▪ Mismatch between transformer ratio and CT ratio
▪ Variable transformer ratio (no-load tap, LTC)
Differential Protection – Transformer
▪ External Fault (Through Fault)

R R

I=0

▪ No change to Operate, but also measuring each current

contribution as “restraint”
Differential Protection – Transformer
▪ Internal Fault

R R

▪ No change to Operate, but also measuring each current

contribution as “restraint”
Differential Protection – Transformer
▪ Wednesday Morning – GE BDD
▪ Single Phase
▪ Transformer Differential Protection (87T)
▪ Percentage Differential with Harmonic Restraint
▪ 2-winding (BDD15) or 3-winding (BDD16)

▪ In the lab
▪ Operate, Restraint, Slope
▪ Inrush, 2nd Harmonic Restraint

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Directional Overcurrent Protection
▪ Wednesday Afternoon – ABB IRD-9
▪ Electromechanical relay
▪ Single-phase (Ground) relay
▪ ANSI 67N
▪ Instantaneous 67N and Time 67N

▪ Directional Control (Polarization)

▪ IRC = Zero-sequence current polarized
▪ IRP = Zero-sequence voltage polarized
▪ IRD = Dual polarized (zero-sequence current and/or voltage)
▪ IRQ = Negative-sequence current and voltage polarized
▪ IRV = Positive-sequence voltage polarized (for phase protection)

▪ Number corresponds to the curve shape

▪ IRD-2, IRD-5, IRD-6, IRD-7, IRD-8, IRD-9, IRD-11
▪ IRD-9 is a “Very Inverse” curve
Directional Overcurrent Protection

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Directional Overcurrent Protection
▪ What does the IRD-9 relay measure and respond to?

▪ Operates on:
▪ Ground current magnitude
▪ Wired as a residual current (sum of all three phases)

▪ Controlled by (polarized by):

▪ Phase angle difference between…
▪ Ground current and zero-sequence voltage (Ig lags Vpol by 0 to 60)
▪ Ground current and zero-sequence current (Ig leads Ipol by 0 to 40)

▪ Note:
▪ Phase angle of the ground current doesn’t matter; just the angle
difference.
▪ Magnitude of polarizing quantity doesn’t matter*
* Minimum values for the directional element to operate; maximum values to not damage the relay.
Distance Protection
▪ Thursday Afternoon – GE CEY51A
▪ Mho distance relay
▪ Three-phase
▪ One zone
▪ ANSI 21

▪ Distance = Electrical Impedance

▪ Current magnitude
▪ Voltage magnitude
▪ Phase angle between current and voltage

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Distance Protection

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Recap
Tips
▪ Parking and speeding
▪ Be on time
▪ Watch out for the afternoon snacks
▪ Enjoy the evening events
▪ Plan around happy hour
▪ Embrace variety
▪ Talk to other people from other companies
▪ Know your schedule and plan ahead
▪ Learn everything you can; be engaged
▪ Hands-On Relay School can be tremendous for your career
▪ Have fun!
BRENT L. CARPER, P.E.
Principal Engineer

brent.carper@3AC-Eng.com
office: 509-339-7626
cell: 509-339-3848

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